[OOC] Naruto: Of Compassion and Tyranny

[AeronFarron]

Sketcher said
Does anyone want their characters drawn? Perhaps in a certain pose?

I'd love to see one of mine :D

[Yog Sothoth]

Sketcher said
Sorry, no 'murica for Naruto OCs.

too bad, the characters would look way better and not so disproportionate lol! comic book art rules!

nothing can beat this style of art

[AeronFarron]

Yog Sothoth said
too bad, the characters would look way better and not so disproportionate lol! comic book art rules!nothing can beat this style of art

For the love of god, who cares? Comic books have cons of their own. Badly drawn comic books have characters that are just as disproportionate as bad manga. So drop this inferiority complex on behalf of comics and stop trying to pick fights with manga.

It is getting more and more irritating to see this pointless discussion drone on. American comics create symbols independent of whatever comic they are featured in. Superman especially. The reason he is basically unbeatable is because that was how he was created to be. His entire personality was BASED around the fact that he was a symbol. He wasn't and still isn't a CHARACTER. He is an idea, the All-American superhero that fights for justice for everyone. For the longest time, he had no other motivation or goal except to protect the planet as a World Superpower (which many believed that was America's role in worldly affairs when he first came around).

You can't really compare any American superhero with any manga character. They are created very differently. For the most part, most super strong manga characters are not MEANT to be unbeatable. Goku (the character people always pit against Superman) will always lose. That is what his adult character is meant to do though. He embodies strength through sacrifice. Goku is "cool" but think of his most iconic moments during the DBZ franchise. Most remember the Saiyan Saga and the Cell Saga. In both, Goku dies via sacrificing himself for the good of everyone else. And ultimately fails in both cases. In all of my years of reading both manga and comic books, I couldn't tell you much about Superman. But I can spend hours talking about Deadpool, Spider-Man, and a slew of manga characters.

Yes, Superman is nigh unbeatable, but there was a reason he needed to be repackaged from a character standpoint. Like all American Comic Book heroes, they were blank slates when they first came out. Boring as hell. In recent times, they've been getting emotions and motivations independent of their creators. I cannot think of a single manga character that needed a character repackage to make them actually have a personality.

There.

[Sketcher]

Yog Sothoth said
too bad, the characters would look way better and not so disproportionate lol! comic book art rules!nothing can beat this style of art

There's only one basic style of drawing, and perhaps a couple of other styles deprived from it in American comic book art. There are some rare unique styles that can also be realistic but their plots are usually different than the normal DC/Marvel comics.

Japanese art is a part of their culture. You can't compare the drawings in Death Note to, I dunno, every DC comic ever. Every person who makes comics can draw with that style.

[SoleAccord]

Syn said
If anything Squirrel Girl could defeat any anime character ever.

Oh my god is that a thing!?

[Sketcher]

Has anyone watched Zetsuen no Tempest?

[AeronFarron]

Sketcher said
Has anyone watched Zetsuen no Tempest?

Isn't that the Bones adaption?

*will be watching Kill La Kill if needed*

[Yog Sothoth]

Sketcher said
There's only one basic style of drawing, and perhaps a couple of other styles deprived from it in American comic book art. There are some rare unique styles that can also be realistic but their plots are usually different than the normal DC/Marvel comics.Japanese art is a part of their culture. You can't compare the drawings in Death Note to, I dunno, every DC comic ever. Every person who makes comics can draw with that style.

Comic Books do it better because it is a team effort and the color and detail is done better in my opinion. Most mangas when I look at them really start to use the same art style over and over again to the point where the is no diversity. if you look at a comic book from the 90s and compare it to the comics of today, there is a big difference coloring and style, and that's just talking about the mainstream series, once you go off stream then you see almost every type of art style you can think of. comic books are way more diverse than manga. there was a DC graphic novel called Kingdom Come which was drawn like watercolor style painting, it was really interesting to look at.

[Yog Sothoth]

AeronFarron said
For the love of god, who cares? Comic books have cons of their own. Badly drawn comic books have characters that are just as disproportionate as bad manga. So drop this inferiority complex on behalf of comics and stop trying to pick fights with manga.It is getting more and more irritating to see this pointless discussion drone on. American comics create symbols independent of whatever comic they are featured in. Superman especially. The reason he is basically unbeatable is because that was how he was created to be. His entire personality was BASED around the fact that he was a symbol. He wasn't and still isn't a CHARACTER. He is an idea, the All-American superhero that fights for justice for everyone. For the longest time, he had no other motivation or goal except to protect the planet as a World Superpower (which many believed that was America's role in worldly affairs when he first came around). You can't really compare any American superhero with any manga character. They are created very differently. For the most part, most super strong manga characters are not MEANT to be unbeatable. Goku (the character people always pit against Superman) will always lose. That is what his adult character is meant to do though. He embodies strength through sacrifice. Goku is "cool" but think of his most iconic moments during the DBZ franchise. Most remember the Saiyan Saga and the Cell Saga. In both, Goku dies via sacrificing himself for the good of everyone else. And ultimately fails in both cases. In all of my years of reading both manga and comic books, I couldn't tell you much about Superman. But I can spend hours talking about Deadpool, Spider-Man, and a slew of manga characters. Yes, Superman is nigh unbeatable, but there was a reason he needed to be repackaged from a character standpoint. Like all American Comic Book heroes, they were blank slates when they first came out. Boring as hell. In recent times, they've been getting emotions and motivations independent of their creators. I cannot think of a single manga character that needed a character repackage to make them actually have a personality. There.

dude I am just having fun and getting a laugh lol this whole argument was hilarious and very amusing to me.

even if I was being serious, Itachi explains it pefectly

[Sketcher]

AeronFarron said
Isn't that the Bones adaption?*will be watching Kill La Kill if needed*

Bones adaptation? What? >.<
I'm pretty sure it's an original thing. It's REALLY good.

[SoleAccord]

AeronFarron said Goku (the character people always pit against Superman) will always lose. That is what his adult character is meant to do though. He embodies strength through sacrifice. Goku is "cool" but think of his most iconic moments during the DBZ franchise. Most remember the Saiyan Saga and the Cell Saga. In both, Goku dies via sacrificing himself for the good of everyone else. And ultimately fails in both cases.

Goku in Saiyan Saga did sacrifice himself for the good of everyone else with Raditz. Didn't die fighting Nappa or Vegeta. Cell Saga you have there, but he was making up for his son's mistake in not killing Cell sooner. Only failed once.

[Yog Sothoth]

back on the subject of Naruto, Sasuke fans just accept the truth lol'

[SoleAccord]

Or he knows its a guy and didn't get his hopes up ...

[Innue]

I prefer post-modern French Impressionism as an art style. I believe it is vastly superior to comic book style. Much more diversity than scrub comic books.

[Yog Sothoth]

can someone please explain why so many anime characters shout out their attacks? it makes no sense, by doing that they give away what their plan of attack is and gives their opponent an idea of what's to come. strategically it is very not smart.

[AeronFarron]

SoleAccord said
Goku in Saiyan Saga did sacrifice himself for the good of everyone else with Raditz. Didn't die fighting Nappa or Vegeta. Cell Saga you have there, but he was making up for his son's mistake in not killing Cell sooner. Only failed once.

Then I added in the Freiza Saga with the Saiyan Saga. I was referencing when he blew up Namek. In the Cell Saga, I felt it was more to motivate his son. Either way, he still failed to kill Cell while he was alive.

But he does still embody this idea even in the Saiyam saga. He didn't really "die" but was rendered paralyzed for the last part of the fight due to his spirit bomb. He couldn't do it himself thus had to give it to Krillian. After which, he was able to coordinate the final moments of the Saiyan saga telepathically. He didn't sacrifice himself that time, but his role as the "sole savior" if you will. He probably could have pushed himself, as it would be within his character, but he chose not to.

[Sketcher]

Yog Sothoth said
can someone please explain why so many anime characters shout out their attacks? it makes no sense, by doing that they give away what their plan of attack is and gives their opponent an idea of what's to come. strategically it is very not smart.

I'm guessing it's something like an incantation. You need to say the words.

[Yog Sothoth]

Innue said
I prefer post-modern French Impressionism as an art style. I believe it is vastly superior to comic book style. Much more diversity than scrub comic books.

you are aware that nether manga or comic books follow that style of art right?

[AeronFarron]

Yog Sothoth said
can someone please explain why so many anime characters shout out their attacks? it makes no sense, by doing that they give away what their plan of attack is and gives their opponent an idea of what's to come. strategically it is very not smart.

Depends on the anime you are talking about. In most cases, it is a manga tradition so readers can understand what attack they are using. It is also something similar to when chess player call out their moves. You mostly see this in ki/energy based combat and card games. In a manga like...Claymore, I don't think they call out their attacks.

In an anime context, certain moves are used as indicators so the shout out is for dramatic effect. Also...try to find a 20 year old person that has never heard of a Kamehameha wave. Hell, they may even act it out XD

[AeronFarron]

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