[OOC] Naruto: Birth of a Better Generation

[Salroka]

Marrow said
yeah i have some of those listed. it is not that every one that can use byakugan can use (all) those jutsu

As one with significant Naruto knowledge, I can vouch for this fact. In truth, only the most skilled practitioners can use the large majority of those Byakugan-specific jutsu. Neji was a prodigy, Hinata was of pretty much ROYAL blood in the Hyuga, and both of their fathers were born to the former Head of the Main House, so it was only natural that they both have significant skill.

[LillyDove]

That's true, but is it logical that such advanced Jutsu be given to a Genin? Hinata and Negi both had to learn over time, if he marked them as not yet learned then it would work. Gentle fist is a beginner level jutsu for the Hyuga clan, I think.

[Marrow]

Is Jûken supposed to be listed in the Jutsu section? I do agree on that being supposedly the first thing you learn when born in the house of Hyūga. Note that I listed my Genin as a member of the main house

[Prince]

I am right about to leave for college. Upon my return, I will make efforts to respond adequately to everyone.

Pertinent notes:

-LillyDove will be returning after a set amount of time.
- The Hatake line never existed in this roleplay. Kakashi and Sakumo were never born. This does not mean you can't be a Hatake. It means that the Raikari never existed. I would greatly prefer you to create your own new, unique jutsu to fulfill its role until I find a way for it to be re-entered into the roleplay.
- I'm not letting a Byakugan user that also uses Gentle Fist have nature release as a Genin. Genin in general should not have Nature Release yet; it is advanced chakra control. The Hyuuga dedicate their time to learning to use their Byakugan and the Gentle Fist fighting style.
- This applies to everyone: Keep in mind what Neji and Sasuke could do. They were prodigies. Your character should not be near theirs from the first arc.

@Beta: Presently, I believe I need one Jounin. I would prefer that Marrow start with one character, and it be a genin for now. This is not a shot at Marrow; this is simply me attempting to keep the very beginning of the roleplay evened out. Multiple characters is fine for when the IC is stable, but for now I just want to get things going. If you would like to create a Jounin meant to lead the next set of genin coming in, which would be Marrow, Lilly and whomever else, that would be fantastic. I just need to keep the jounin-genin ratio even.

[Marrow]

i wil strike out my jounin for now then.

as for my Hyūga please specify what i can and can't do so i can edit my CS accordingly

[Prince]

Your Jounin may aptly return when in need if no one else wants to, and I will offer you priority over anyone else asking to make a Jounin, but I do want to keep a 1:1 ratio for now.

Your Hyuuga presently should not even know his nature release. During the Reign of Sai, he was most likely in hiding and training, which is why he is a rather old genin. Chances are, he probably didn't even know most basic ninjutsu; just trained with the Byakugan and Gentle Fist. The Hyuuga, due to their doujutsu, were hunted down extensively, as were the Uchiha. There also is no shame in not having a full roster of jutsu. I put in six as a limit because I know there are those who would push it, but reality is 3-4 is a decent amount. Look at canon:

Shikamaru essentially only knew Shadow Neck Bind; Chouji only had the Human Boulder and Size manipuation; Ino just took over minds. Effectively, they each had one or two hiden, then just academy jutsu. Neji, a prodigy, only knew the Byakugan based abilities. Hinata knew the same ones, just significantly weaker.

Just focus on your Hyuuga being a Hyuuga.Make him a strong character for the setting, not a strong character for an arena.

[Marrow]

Do delete the suitor jutsu and know only one or two byakugan (and Jûken) based jutsu (in a weak state) for now will do?

sorry for using the japanese names by the way, i will revert to english if you prefer that

[Prince]

I've seen a million faces... AND I'VE ROCKED'M ALL!

Anyway, use whatever you want. I know just about every jutsu back and forth in English, Viz Media and Japanese.

Yes, using those jutsu would be preferred. Granted that he is seventeen, you can squeeze by embellishing what he can do with them slightly. Even without jutsu, a seventeen year old can generally kick a twelve year old's ass.

[Marrow]

should be good now

[LillyDove]

Prince, you don't mind if I hang out in the OCC do you?

[Salroka]

I'm about to strangle myself, what with these rainbows and unicorns. Please try to change your avatars before I dig my eyes out with a spoon.

On a lighter note, I am fine with making a Jounin, and will do so shortly. Currently, I am in discussions with the GM about that very thing.

[Prince]

I do not mind if you stick around, but I would much like the IC to pick up.

[Durnehviir]

Curious Prince, anything special or different about Sai's Cursed Seal?

[Prince]

Actually, yes.

Sai created his Cursed Seals for a different reason than Orochimaru. A Cursed Seal, normally, is created in an attempt to control its target. Sai never let anyone know about that effect, which is how he killed his mentor, half-brother and best friend. The purpose of that was actually to keep them from abusing them, as during his initial creation of them, he was leery of just giving them away, and for good reason.

Sai made various Curse Seals, much like Orochimaru had various ones, but they all did have the same 'stages'; however, Sai's had a twist. Their Stage I release simply gave them a slight strength boost via nature chakra, as did the original seals, but their Stage II was different. Instead of giving them a complete Sage Transformation (although it could), it gave them one of two things: a weaker version of any Kekkei Genkai that Sai could recreate or a new chakra release. Sai could take the DNA of any person and create a weaker Kekkei Genkai from it. He did this with his extensive medical background and his personal Kekkei Genkai, which was the Jugo Clan Kekkei Genkai. Sai contained the DNA of Senju, Hyuga, Uchiha, Hon, Uzumaki and himself, thus could give seals for a weaker Mokuton, Sharingan, Byakugan, or simply empower them since the Uzumaki nor Hon had a Kekkei Genkai, thus only leaving the Jugo Clan Kekkei Genkai. Thus, the seals came in five possibilities: a weaker Sharingan, a weaker Byakugan, a brand new chakra element (no advanced natures), Mokuton (only advanced nature) or a full Sage Transformation. However, because they required at least a little DNA of Sai, each seal literally had a portion of his DNA in it. That is why purging those with the seal was so important.

Edit: Yes, Sai had several implanted Sharingan; he used them to control the five Bijuu in his body. No, he never had the Rinnegan and to the knowledge of this roleplay it has never exist. Neither has the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

[Durnehviir]

That's actually a lot more useful than I anticipated. Haha.
Alright, you wouldn't mind if I created a remnant of the Great Purge, would you? There's now something I'd like to try. I think I'll structure the nature of the abilities I'd like to say my character has the potential for then PM you the idea and see if it is allowable. :0

[Prince]

PM me now with your idea. No one should have a Cursed Seal. If you do somehow, each had a name.

[LillyDove]

My personal opinion: Sai is like Pain but worst.

[Prince]

Let me give you a rundown of what Sai had:

Sai first and foremost was a Medical Ninjutsu specialist that mastered the Jugo Clan Kekkei Genkai and even became a Sage without the training of the snakes or toads. He personally had Water and Lightning Release and used his Kekkei Genkai to unlock Storm Release. The mother fucker literally fired Lasers. After that, he attained the Earth Grudge Fear Hiden, and let's just skip some plot and storytime to say he stole the hearts of a Hyuuga, a Hon, a Senju and an Uchiha as well as several Uchiha eyes. He stole the Nibi, and locked it away (its location is still unknown) then the one, three, six, seven and nine tails by sealing one onto his body and four into masks that housed the stolen hearts. Essentially, at the end, Sai controlled five bijuu on his own, had a weaker version of every Kekkei Genkai that he used simultaneously, was a Sage that constantly absorbed nature chakra and could use every element, plus Storm and Wood Release and on top of ALL of that still could manipulate his own body via making it into threads and using the Jugo Clan KG. Sai could not unlock the Mangekyou or Rinnegan because he focused more on his Sage Style and because his body was too 'mangled' via Earth Grudge Fear and his KG to actually develop it.

Aside from all of that, Sai was probably on the same level as Madara or Hashirama. The differences being that Sai attained a lot of his power through stealing it or recreating it. Sai had a huge amount of abilities and a huge power level, but if you took away his bijuu and his hearts (as they did in the final battle with him) he truly was more of a jack of all trades that had a sage style and was an expert medical nin. That sounds great, but against a shitload of incredibly powerful shinobi, even someone like Sai was no real match. The fact Amegakure was destroyed parallels canon. The fight between Madara and Hashirama altered entire landscapes, and the fight between Sai and the Resistance destroyed an entire village. I would not say Sai was a lot like Nagato (Pain), but more like Kabuto or Orochimaru.

[LillyDove]

Very true as well, I think it's more closely to half Nagato and half Orochimaru.

Oh, what is the set amount of time in which I can return?

[Prince]

Once Beta finishes his character. I've basically put him in charge of assisting you.