[OOC] the "Legacy" cast green room.

[CrimsonWarrior55]

So how DO you kill her? She can't be immortal, because that's stupid. Besides, how would she live without a brain? That's the thing that tells her body what to do. Without it, her body would breathe, meaning it would suffocate. And if you're saying she'd survive without breathing, then I take issue. You might have made Light's healing too powerful. Hell, even Wolverine dies without his brain. Actually, it's the only way to kill him.

[Sableyezer]

i think decapitation is a tried and true way of killing, even if you can regenerate.

[Archmage MC]

CrimsonWarrior55 said
So how DO you kill her? She can't be immortal, because that's stupid. Besides, how would she live without a brain? That's the thing that tells her body what to do. Without it, her body would breathe, meaning it would suffocate. And if you're saying she'd survive without breathing, then I take issue. You might have made Light's healing too powerful. Hell, even Wolverine dies without his brain. Actually, it's the only way to kill him.

Actually Deadpool/wolverine can live without their heads, they just grow new ones. It just takes them awhile. Deadpool has better regen, but has to regrow bone. wolverine never has to regrow bone, but is screwed if anyone bends his skeleton. I'm basing her regen off those two, so what they can do, she can do. I'm just not sure what the timings are for her regen.

If you wanna know what can kill her, its whatever can kill Deadpool. otherwise you'll only disable her for awhile. (Not sure on times).

At least its not Majin buu levels of regen. :P But I dunno how you can possibly balance that.

Sableyezer said
i think decapitation is a tried and true way of killing, even if you can regenerate.

If a headshot can kill a regeneration person, then theres no point in having it.

[CrimsonWarrior55]

From comic books nerds who know what they are talking about:

"Laid out in the Xavier Protocols, which I believe is where this started, was that he had to be decapitated as well his head kept from his body so he wouldn't mend together. So like Deadpool the keeping his head away is key. Likewise how it was shown in AoA that he couldn't have an arm as it was apparently not around to mend, and can't seem to regrow his own skeleton, hence the adamantium protection, and Laura reattaching her own limbs. (silly aside from the biology of this being comical of course, that in AoA no one could make him a prosthetic, given how commonplace they are in MARVEL and AoA even?). To my knowledge this has never happened in 616. He has been killed in alternate Universes. A case in point was in What If? Hulk Killed Wolverine where Hulk punched part of his spine out close to his neck and Wolverine died. As well, What If? Enemy Of The State where Kitty phases and fuses her own arm to his head and brain killing him. Again alternate timelines and anyone's reluctant to apply those to CANON, odd in a way to me as they are meant to show specifically what would happen in canon where a different factor in play or incidents played out differently then they had in the first place. Likewise though the fate of Sabretooth in 616 could just as well be applied here for arguments sakes really since we're talking about the same power, sans adamantium."

But you can't base it off Deadpool's. This is why: "The mercenary Deadpool is depicted having a humorous exchange with the entity in a self-titled Annual. Deadpool becomes infatuated with Death after he has a number of near-death experiences. During the Funeral for a Freak storyline, Death appears to reciprocate the feeling, and a jealous Thanos prevents Deadpool from dying and joining the entity and curses him with immortality"

In other words, Deadpool's is a cheat, and Wolverine can die via massive damage to the spinal column/decapitation. But even this doesn't sit well with me, mostly because if you can't die, what's the point of any of us in a fight? We would just send Light in and no matter what, she would win. Our only usefulness would be if she was captured. Even if she was a lousy fighter, she would still outlast the enemy, and would kill them after they have exhausted themselves. And with such a powerful healing factor, comes living longer, and then you hit a Groundhog's Day/Ben 10's Paradox scenario. Boredom. She'd get so damn bored, she'd learn. And learn. And learn. And learn. And learn. Hell, she'd be more powerful than anyone in the One Piece verse. She'd basically be a goddess. That's why I can't stand villains who want immortality. They never seem to understand the sheer boredom it would bring.

[CrimsonWarrior55]

Archmage MC said
If a headshot can kill a regeneration person, then theres no point in having it.

It's called being careful.

[Archmage MC]

thats why critical injuries such as decap will take her out of the fight for half an hour to an hour or so. you can get a lot done in an hour during a fight. Its not majin buu regen where shes fully healed after like 3 seconds of not getting hit. And even then I'm not sure what the rate of healing should be.

I did mention she could do all this at the start of the RP and you guys said it was fine, but since its taken so long to go anywhere and I'm not very interested in what goes on in the OOC most of the time, thats been forgotten it seems.

[Archmage MC]

Also, I do have a 3d printer, so if any of you want some 3d print outs of something, just let me know. It'll cost you some $$$ (cheaper if you find the model you want pritned out), but I can print out pretty much anything 8x8x8. I can print out bigger things, but it'll be in pieces at that point. Also you need to paint it, unless you want me to paint it.

[Sableyezer]

Archmage MC said
Also, I do have a 3d printer, so if any of you want some 3d print outs of something, just let me know. It'll cost you some $$$ (cheaper if you find the model you want pritned out), but I can print out pretty much anything 8x8x8. I can print out bigger things, but it'll be in pieces at that point. Also you need to paint it, unless you want me to paint it.

neat.

[Sableyezer]

Archmage MC said
thats why critical injuries such as decap will take her out of the fight for half an hour to an hour or so. you can get a lot done in an hour during a fight. Its not majin buu regen where shes fully healed after like 3 seconds of not getting hit. And even then I'm not sure what the rate of healing should be.I did mention she could do all this at the start of the RP and you guys said it was fine, but since its taken so long to go anywhere and I'm not very interested in what goes on in the OOC most of the time, thats been forgotten it seems.

so what you're saying is, if someone knows she can regenerate and they know it takes time, they could potentially kill her by, i don't know, hacking her to pieces?

[phillmyster]

well, Wolverine and deadpool have said that drowning them is the only way to kill them, wolverine killed his son that way and deadpool tried to kill wolverine but, he was too popular so he backed out

[Archmage MC]

Sableyezer said
so what you're saying is, if someone knows she can regenerate and they know it takes time, they could potentially kill her by, i don't know, hacking her to pieces?

Mm... If they threw the pieces in a volcano afterwords or something then yeah, otherwise that would just further delay her regeneration. And of course this is One Piece, the ocean is always an option.

phillmyster said
well, Wolverine and deadpool have said that drowning them is the only way to kill them, wolverine killed his son that way and deadpool tried to kill wolverine but, he was too popular so he backed out

Thats weird, because Deadpool can survive in space without a suit on, and drowning is just asphyxiation due to water filling your lungs instead of oxygen, so thats not a fair point of comparison.

Although I dunno why you guys are so worried about this. It all depends on how its handled in the RP, doesn't it?

[phillmyster]

Im just gushing out my comic knowledge, its rare that i can use it ( actually deadpools space adventure is implied to be a hallucination in the now issues, so nobody knows :/)

[Archmage MC]

phillmyster said
Im just gushing out my comic knowledge, its rare that i can use it ( actually deadpools space adventure is implied to be a hallucination in the now issues, so nobody knows :/)

I'm only about a novice when it comes to comics, I only know what I read on the wiki. Though that deadpool game was pretty sweet. Sure the gameplay was very bland, but that game was total deadpool.

[CrimsonWarrior55]

Archmage MC said
Also, I do have a 3d printer, so if any of you want some 3d print outs of something, just let me know. It'll cost you some $$$ (cheaper if you find the model you want pritned out), but I can print out pretty much anything 8x8x8. I can print out bigger things, but it'll be in pieces at that point. Also you need to paint it, unless you want me to paint it.

Sweet, but I'm broke.

Archmage MC said
Although I dunno why you guys are so worried about this. It all depends on how its handled in the RP, doesn't it?

Sorry, I've just always had issues with characters who don't really have a definite weakness. Like how Dani's body is designed to come apart for maintenance, this makes her joints structurally weaker. Plus her already weak heart. It gives her something to overcome as the story goes on. She has an obstacle, and once she overcomes it (which I already have planned out for later down the line) she will become more powerful, gaining power from the moon and stars as well as the sun (since, you know moonlight is just reflected sunlight and starlight IS sunlight). Mal may not grow more powerful, but his weakness is his automatic detections of all vibrations around him for 2 miles. As he grows, his concentration becomes more powerful to the point where he could theoretically, absorb those vibrations, essentially silencing the further ones without even thinking about it.

Light has pretty much no weakness. I mean, sure she can be taken out of a fight for a half-hour, but that's not something to overcome. She has no need to grow that much stronger than she already is. She only needs to be strong enough to run away from danger that could kill her for good. Opponents who can disable her and throw her in the ocean or a volcano. That's really it. Now, if she had to actually focus on her wounds to heal, like it was a willful thing and not a unconscious thing, that would make a more compelling power. If she had to focus on each individual wound to heal it, hell I wouldn't care if it took a minute or a day, it gives her an exploitable weakness, and forces her to try and become stronger, so that she can not be injured. And that could later extend into like a healing field, or remote healing of other people, or something else. I just feel she needs some kind of limit is all. As for why I didn't mention all this earlier? I thought brain and heart injury was a viable way to stop her.

But whatever, we'll just have to see it in play and if it gets ridiculous, we'll just have to adjust it.

[phillmyster]

Well i think that lights weakness is a psicological one, I mean not dying is OP but that has concecuences, for example if she is too laid back about it, that will put us in danger( the crew) and Griff for one won't stand it, imagine this, we face of against Marines, if light just ups and rushes in without caution and is splatered all over the place, now we would have to take care of her, putting us in danger. So she'd be hesitant, i think about how to fight

[Archmage MC]

What Phil said, thats one weakness she has. She has a hard time taking things seriously for that exact reason. I can make non vitals recovery conscious if you want, thats not a problem.

[CrimsonWarrior55]

Well, like I said we'll see. Although if she does get splattered I don't think Dani (as I designed her, not out of spite) would bother putting her back together. She'd see it as it was Light's own damn fault for being stupid, so she can deal with it on her own. But if say, Leo were to try his hand at a Light jigsaw puzzle, Dani would protect him, soooo yeah)

[The Irish Tree]

CrimsonWarrior55 said
Well, like I said we'll see. Although if she does get splattered I don't think Dani (as I designed her, not out of spite) would bother putting her back together. She'd see it as it was Light's own damn fault for being stupid, so she can deal with it on her own. But if say, Leo were to try his hand at a Light jigsaw puzzle, Dani would protect him, soooo yeah)

HIS DOCTORATE WILL BE THE DOCTORATE TO FIX THE IMMORTAL!

[Sableyezer]

i know that girl is from touhou. but.... why?

[The Irish Tree]

Sableyezer said
i know that girl is from touhou. but.... why?

Because Cirno is the smarterest and the strongest!