Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

[Gowi]

Roleplaying canon is more challenging than people perceive, honestly.

[Rare]

I hate how other talk about how reading has become a chore for them. I mean the Free section is there from you to roleplay and you don't have to read that much.

[Prince]

Roleplaying as a pre-established character, in my opinion, is one of the largest tasks ever. Roleplaying as your own creation? Not terribly hard. Roleplaying an interpretation? Still not too bad. But, to take up the mantle of any pre-exsting character from any canon is not only difficult, but it's a task that's risky for the professionals in the field - Americana comic writers. Look at Batman, for example. A story and character retold a thousand times, sometimes completely varying from some of the original concepts. Yet, some iterations are considered brilliant while others are bastards. Fact is, you're judged on what you keep true and what you change, and not all opinions are universal. But, when characters dictate more of a roleplay than either its setting or plot, which in many casual and free roleplays is the case, how you actually act out that character means a whole lot.

[Pachamac]

I think writing a pre-established character from a canon source etc, such as comics, anime, tv shows etc, can be an interesting exercise. Again, how well someone can do that will vary from one person to the next wildly, so impressions of it can differ greatly, as Prince said. I think that a good majority of people would like to avoid the use of pre-established characters just to help avoid potential bickering and drama that might unfold in an ooc with regards to whether or not that character is being written accurately.

I also find it an interesting writing challenge to utilise and write other characters within my rp whom belonged to players who have dropped/left the rp, and to see how well I can come close to their established character and their rper's own writing style and interests, and keeping them incorporated into the rp and plot (as opposed to just killing the character off). In comparison to pre-established characters from comics, tv etc with so many different interpretations it's a lot easier to get accurately close to the character, but still a challenge that requires a lot of thought in itself. And one that I've always found rewarding to see when players who have dropped out pop back in to message me sometime later and thank me for the use of their character and how they were portrayed.

[Prince]

I like to break things.

[vancexentan]

I'm currently doing a cross over gundam roleplay that has been slowly trudging on since Guildfall. I play characters whom are canon in the rp while still handling my own characters. Any differences in characterization in canon characters I chalk it up to alternate universe.

[Yog Sothoth]

There are too many anime rps and not enough superhero rps

[Yog Sothoth]

There are too many anime rps and not enough superhero rps

[Pachamac]

Ignoring the double post, you've said that like 3/4 times now.

[Scout]

I would say there are too many Superhero RPs.

I understand the agitation with fandoms, though I don't fully agree with it. It's more about finding a good group to do them with and changing the canon to make it your own. When I do a fandom, it's because we've taken the setting and either 1. disappeared the canon characters, or most of them, and/or 2. taken a route so different from the canon that it's literally nothing but the most basic of concepts being the same (like an AoT RP would take the maneuver gear and base parts of the world, and then do something like spend all of its time exploring far beyond the walls).

I had a real complaint a few minutes ago... but I forgot... ;n; Hate when that happens.

[Yog Sothoth]

Scout said
I would say there are too many Superhero Rps

Really? It's been weeks since there has been a interest check for a superhero rp, while anime floods the guild nearly every day. Superheroes make some of the best roleplays when done right.

[Vanq]

Yog Sothoth said
Really? It's been weeks since there has been a interest check for a superhero rp, while anime floods the guild nearly every day. Superheroes make some of the best roleplays when done right.

In your opinion.

[Yog Sothoth]

Vanq said
In your opinion.

well the creativity that comes from them can speak for itself, and the characters interesting.

[Innue]

To reinforce Vanq's point...

I don't particularly find superheroes interesting. The only real concept of them I liked was the way Heroes did it.... Else I tend to find the genre uninteresting and the characters equally so.

It is all based on personal preference. The anime threads do well because there is a higher demand and audience for them. Anime is also very, very general, while superheroes as a genre is a bit more narrow and focused.

[Pachamac]

And the same thing could be said for anime or any other rp. Different strokes for different folks.

If you want a superhero rp, or if anyone in general wanted any particular type of rp... make one. Don't be scared or hesitant to do so; just make one. And you'd be able to craft it however you want to fit your taste. There's nothing stopping you.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Innue said The anime threads do well because there is a higher demand and audience for them.

I know anime is popular, but it ain't that popular. Unless if you hunt down an anime club people will generally just know something about Naruto, Bleach or One Piece.
Maybe Death Note and Attack on Titan, the interest is there but minor. Cause they're more invested in say Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.

But super heroes? Almost everyone has seen and likes Batman, Superman and Spiderman. And Marvel is exploding in popularity with their Avengers movies, the individual movies of each of those heros, and with all the X-Men movies. You could get a big discussion with almost everyone about superheroes, but not with nearly as many people on anime unless if it's "That anime girl's hot. She has big tits".
And I say this as someone who does enjoy a lot of anime myself, it just is not nearly as prevalent or popular in everyday life unless if you consciously surround yourself with anime fans.

Innue said Anime is also very, very general, while superheroes as a genre is a bit more narrow and focused.

Only if you flat out go "Anime RP". But the majority of anime RP's are based on a certain anime like Naruto or Bleach (picking mainstream ones here).
While superhero's generally let you make any hero, they have to. Outside of Justice League or Shield it would essentially be "You be batman, everyone else be cops or villains" sort of deal. So by allowing people to create basically any hero they want, it adds are more generality and variety than most anime RP's would.

[Pachamac]

Gwazi said I know anime is popular, but it ain't that popular. Unless if you hunt down an anime club people will generally just know something about Naruto, Bleach or One Piece.
Maybe Death Note and Attack on Titan, the interest is there but minor. Cause they're more invested in say Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.

But super heroes? Almost everyone has seen and likes Batman, Superman and Spiderman. And Marvel is exploding in popularity with their Avengers movies, the individual movies of each of those heros, and with all the X-Men movies. You could get a big discussion with almost everyone about superheroes, but not with nearly as many people on anime unless if it's "That anime girl's hot. She has big tits".
And I say this as someone who does enjoy a lot of anime myself, it just is not nearly as prevalent or popular in everyday life unless if you consciously surround yourself with anime fans.

You're overgeneralising the popularity of these things outside of rping, which is missing the/Innue's point. There is a great audience and demand from rpers for anime rps, regardless of whatever its popularity is in the mainstream because that's what a lot of people who are rping are interested in.

Also, superheroes are indeed a lot more narrow in genre for rps... it's an rp about superheroes. Whereas anime inspired rps do not need to be about any specific show/manga, but can instead be based and influenced on anime/japanese video game tropes, of which there's a great many deal of things. You can extend that to literally anything you wanted, from slice of life highschool rps, to fantasy, scifi, whatever have you. Superhero rps on the other hand just tend to be... comic book influenced tropes which are again comparitively more niche and are based only around superheroes.

This is why there's more 'anime focused rps', because the possibility of what someone could do with them is simply that much greater in comparison.

[Innue]

Magic -

You aren't differentiating RP audience with general audience (partly because I didn't clarify that I was speaking about it in that way).

Seeing something also doesn't correlate to wanting to play in that universe. In a lot of the superhero universes, unless you go Heroes, X-Men, or Avenger's routes, only one person can be 'the Batman', 'the Superman', etc. That genre's prominent examples takes the special snowflake concept to an extreme where only a few people get to have any access to being special.

Sidebar: I've never felt that Heroes or X-Men feels like a 'superhero' concept, but more of an independently unique concept.

I brought up the broadness of Anime because that is what Yog was speaking about. That'd be like comparing a specific car manufacturer to an entire market of imported cars. It seems silly.

However, Bleach and Naruto work well as a roleplay concept (and are likely attractive) because there is a wider populace that has access to abilities, which is generally not something available in this comparison. You don't have worry about fighting about who gets to be 'the Batman' in it. I think it can be a lot easier to make a character that can fit into that universe and be what you want. From an entirely balance perspective, it can be a lot easier to refine the scope of power in the way that anime's divide up power into named techniques.

I would prefer we not make blanket judgments on which has more variety. I'm not going to really speak on it because it is entirely subjective, but I've seen some incredibly unique concepts in anime AUs.

EDIT: Pachamac very succinctly captured my point.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Pachamac said
You're overgeneralising the popularity of these things which is missing the/Innue's point. There is a great audience and demand regardless of whatever its popularity is in the mainstream because that's what a lot of people who are rping are interested in. Also, superheroes are indeed a lot more narrow in genre for rps... it's an rp about superheroes. Whereas anime inspired rps , but can instead be based and influenced on anime/japanese video game tropes, of which there's a great many deal of things. You can extend that to literally anything you wanted, from slice of life highschool rps, to fantasy, scifi, whatever have you. Superhero rps on the other hand just tend to be... comic book influenced tropes which are again comparitively more niche and are based only around superheroes.This is why there's more 'anime focused rps', because the possibility of what someone could do with them is simply that much greater in comparison.

It might be different for RPs specifically. I do admit I don't invest a large amount of time scanning interest checks, so I don't passively know the extent of popular theme's at the time (nor did I ever pay attention to such a thing even during my 20k+ posts RP days).

Superheroes by bare minimum just require you have a power or ability, outside of that you can do almost anything with the RP. And it is true that you can have RP's based on Japan culture, but most anime RP's I've seen were fandom ones, not ones that went "Let's make a unique anime like RP". Unless if you count any RP people use an anime pic for appearance in the CS to be an anime RP, in that case almost every RP is an anime RP though.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Innue said
Magic -You aren't differentiating RP audience with general audience (partly because I didn't clarify that I was speaking about it in that way).Seeing something also doesn't correlate to wanting to play in that universe. In a lot of the superhero universes, unless you go Heroes, X-Men, or Avenger's routes, only one person can be 'the Batman', 'the Superman', etc. That genre's prominent examples takes the special snowflake concept to an extreme where only a few people get to be special.I brought up the broadness of Anime because that is what Yog was speaking about. That'd be like comparing a specific car manufacturer to an entire market of imported cars. It seems silly.However, Bleach and Naruto work well as a roleplay concept (and are likely attractive) because there is a wider populace that has access to abilities, which is generally not something available in the other genres. You don't have worry about fighting about who gets to be 'the Batman' in it. I think it can be a lot easier to make a character that can fit into that universe and be what you want. From an entirely balance perspective, it can be a lot easier to refine the scope of power in the way that anime's divide up power into named techniques.I would prefer we not make blanket judgments on which has more variety. I'm not going to really speak on it because it is entirely subjective, but I've seen some incredibly unique concepts in anime AUs.EDIT: Pachamac very succinctly captured my point.

Like I said though, you can't really do the 'special snowflake' hero RPs. But the one's that focus on many mutants and heroes flourish. Those are the one's I've seen happen on the guild constantly. As for Heroes and X-Men not counting? I think we might be having a miscommuncation now.

When I think superhero RP I'm thinking anything that gives people special powers and abilities, but still was to be in modern society and it can't be something that the everyday person posses.
But I assume you're thinking more directly "Man flys on cape and sends the evil scientist to Jail" sort of concept.

And if we're defining superhero RPs that way then I have to agree, it is greatly uncommon compared to anime RPs.