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Fun fact: Not sure if you were here for this or not, but Sven got the determination to have this place built because Techi didn't believe that Sven could do it in a short amount of time. Sven had moon-sized outposts (roughly) at that time in most solar systems in several universes. Many had their own android construction facilities. He called together the largest workforce he could muster (quite a large one) and had this place built in under a month.


If I was really hardcore, I would have called you out on the impossibility. But meh.
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By the way, there's not really any way it can be totally populated. That would be an unrealistic amount of life.
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If I was really hardcore, I would have called you out on the impossibility. But meh.


With Sven's resources? I believe that it is very possible.
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By the way, there's not really any way it can be totally populated. That would be an unrealistic amount of life.


I know.
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With Sven's resources? I believe that it is very possible.I know.


Have you looked into the size of a single lightyear? You either have to have a near infinite number of constructors, or near infinite speed. Along with the fact that he'd probably have to destroy a multitude of universes to gather the resources. We throw big numbers around so often in the rp, we never think about what they really mean.
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Have you looked into the size of a single lightyear? You either have to have a near infinite number of constructors, or near infinite speed. Along with the fact that he'd probably have to destroy a multitude of universes to gather the resources. We throw big numbers around so often in the rp, we never think about what they really mean.


The total size of the city in miles compared to the number of drones he had, each of which move very, very quickly. He had way more than one to cover each square mile of space, and each built a respective area. The resources come from a long amount of time spent mining uninhabited planets and stockpiling for a big project, and the city was that project. Yes, I believe that it was entirely feasible.
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The total size of the city in miles compared to the number of drones he had, each of which move very, very quickly. He had way more than one to cover each square mile of space, and each built a respective area. The resources come from a long amount of time spent mining uninhabited planets and stockpiling for a big project, and the city was that project. Yes, I believe that it was entirely feasible.


Then the number of bots had to be astronomically high. Given the numbers, this was an impossible task to compete in a month.
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Then the number of bots had to be astronomically high. Given the numbers, this was an impossible task to compete in a month.


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The total size of the city in miles compared to the number of drones he had, each of which move very, very quickly. He had way more than one to cover each square mile of space, and each built a respective area.
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Heroic said
Fun fact: Not sure if you were here for this or not, but Sven got the determination to have this place built because Techi didn't believe that Sven could do it in a short amount of time. Sven had moon-sized outposts (roughly) at that time in most solar systems in several universes. Many had their own android construction facilities. He called together the largest workforce he could muster (quite a large one) and had this place built in under a month.


323 quadrillion square miles of land in a month? Where did he get all that land? And the workforce to build the place, all of which had the necessary training to survive in deep space? And get around the plethora of stars that he would find while building? And create an atmosphere and gravity for a flat place? And what would he do for the beings on planets he would be displacing, in fact, destroying? He'd have to deal with getting them all out and suppressing any uprising that might occur.
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323 quadrillion square miles of land in a month? Where did he get all that land? And the workforce to build the place, all of which had the necessary training to survive in deep space? And get around the plethora of stars that he would find while building? And create an atmosphere and gravity for a flat place? And what would he do for the beings on planets he would be displacing, in fact, destroying? He'd have to deal with getting them all out and suppressing any uprising that might occur.


You miscalculated. It's a sphere.
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You miscalculated. It's a sphere.


It's a sphere? That would more than triple the population area. And since it's a filled sphere, the land needed would be immense, probably requiring the destruction of all the planets of multiple universes. And besides that, such a large planet would have immense gravity, and it may even surpass the Schwarzschild Radius. Let me do the maths for that really quick.
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Where did he get all that land?

Years of mining an innumerable number of planets.
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And the workforce to build the place, all of which had the necessary training to survive in deep space?

Drones.
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And get around the plethora of stars that he would find while building? And create an atmosphere and gravity for a flat place? And what would he do for the beings on planets he would be displacing, in fact, destroying? He'd have to deal with getting them all out and suppressing any uprising that might occur.

There's more than enough empty space out in that void between galaxies.
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Years of mining an innumerable number of planets.Drones.There's more than enough empty space out in that void between galaxies.


That's so much land, mass, space, gravity, time. Why bother mining planets? You'd literally have to find a small galaxy of solid iron, at least.
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That's so much land, mass, space, gravity, time. Why bother mining planets? You'd literally have to find a small galaxy of solid iron, at least.


Land- Years of mining operations will be sufficient, and it'd be harder to find a small galaxy of solid iron than to just mine up everything you need elsewhere.
Mass- Same.
Space- Void.
Gravity- Gravity control mechanisms are in place to keep everything from falling apart... Or together.
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Okay, so the volume of such a sphere would be 8.71137 * 10^13 cubic light years. The mass of one cubic metre of pure water at maximum density is 1000 kilograms exactly. The volume of the sphere talked about in cubic metres would be: 7.37667 * 10^61 cubic metres. The mass of that sphere of pure water at maximum density would be 7.67667*10^64 kilograms.

The Schwarzschild Radius formula is: r[sub]s[/sub] = (2Gm)/(c^2) where r[sub]s[/sub] is the Radius, G is the gravitational constant, m is the mass, and c is the speed of light.

The Gravitational Constant is: 6.67384 * 10^-11 N m^2 kg^-2.
The mass is 7.67667*10^64 kilograms.
The speed of light is 299,792,458 metres per second.

So, according to Wolfram Alpha, the Schwarzschild Radius for this sphere is 1.14009×10^38 m^2/s.
Okay, that's not right. Let me use the other formula for the Radius. next post!
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Land- Years of mining operations will be sufficient, and it'd be harder to find a small galaxy of solid iron than to just mine up everything you need elsewhere.Mass- Same.Space- Void.Gravity- Gravity control mechanisms are in place to keep everything from falling apart... Or together.


No, the space it's made of, the area it takes up, the matter. And do you know how much mining it would take to be sufficient? You'd literally strip multiple universes of 100% of their resources. What if someone wanted to inhabit one of those areas?
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By the way, the Schwarzschild Radius is the radius of a sphere such that, if all the mass of an object is compressed within that sphere, a black hole will be formed.
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No, the space it's made of, the area it takes up, the matter. And do you know how much mining it would take to be sufficient? You'd literally strip multiple universes of 100% of their resources. What if someone wanted to inhabit one of those areas?


Do you also know how many universes that there theoretically are that are too unstable for anyone to live in? There's more than enough of those for the resources to be easily accessible.
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By the way, the Schwarzschild Radius is the radius of a sphere such that, if all the mass of an object is compressed within that sphere, a black hole will be formed.


Technology.
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Do you also know how many universes that there theoretically are that are too unstable for anyone to live in? There's more than enough of those for the resources to be easily accessible.Technology.


Technology couldn't overcome that radius.
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Do you also know how many universes that there theoretically are that are too unstable for anyone to live in? There's more than enough of those for the resources to be easily accessible.Technology.


But The System cleans out and disposed of uninhabited universes. This has been established.
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Technology couldn't overcome that radius.


Not modern technology.
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But The System cleans out and disposed of uninhabited universes. This has been established.


If it was a while back, I don't remember that. But the point being there could be universes, similar to the one David is from, where only one planet has life. Also, the city was built to protect, and if any of those cultures were close to dying out, why wouldn't they agree to live in Waternaux in exchange for using their planet and surrounding areas for resources?
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