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Okay, so after redoing the calculations, the Schwarzschild Radius for a sphere of pure water of diameter 55000 light years is 1.14^10^38 metres. The radius of such a sphere in metres would be 5.203 * 10^20 metres, which actually is less than the Schwarzschild radius.
However, we can switch this out for earth, which has a solid density of 5515 kg/m^3.

The mass of this planet would be 4.06823×10^65 kg.
The Schwarzschild Radius for this planet would be 6.041×10^38 meters...? Which is apparently more than the Radius for water even though Earth is far more dense... So never mind about the planet collapsing in on itself and becoming a black hole.
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Test number one....initiated...
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Test number one....initiated...


Of?
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Okay, so after redoing the calculations, the Schwarzschild Radius for a sphere of pure water of diameter 55000 light years is 1.14^10^38 metres. The radius of such a sphere in metres would be 5.203 * 10^20 metres, which actually is less than the Schwarzschild radius. However, we can switch this out for earth, which has a solid density of 5515 kg/m^3.The mass of this planet would be 4.06823×10^65 kg.The Schwarzschild Radius for this planet would be 6.041×10^38 meters...? Which is apparently more than the Radius for water even though Earth is far more dense... So never mind about the planet collapsing in on itself and becoming a black hole.


Wait wait wait I messed up. It turns out that the Radius is what the sphere must fall under, not above. So, yeah, the planet should be collapsing into a black hole right now. And there's no way to stop it unless you could somehow negate the immense gravitational pull preventing light from escaping.
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Of?


Can't say.
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I'm killing titans with jesus christ jelly?
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whizzball1 said
Wait wait wait I messed up. It turns out that the Radius is what the sphere must fall , not above. So, yeah, the planet should be collapsing into a black hole right now. And there's no way to stop it unless you could somehow negate the immense gravitational pull preventing light from escaping.


By controlling the gravity well enough to be similar to that of Earth's.
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By controlling the gravity well enough to be similar to that of Earth's.


You're telling me that you can somehow cause that huge mass to stop bending the fabric of space time? Because that's how gravity works, according to Einstein's general theory of relativity. Objects bend the fabric of space time just like a ball would bend a pillow, and that causes smaller objects to move toward it. Can you somehow "raise" that mass such that it wouldn't be bending space-time as much?

I don't think so.
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You're telling me that you can somehow cause that huge mass to stop bending the fabric of space time? Because that's how gravity works, according to Einstein's general theory of relativity. Objects bend the fabric of space time just like a ball would bend a pillow, and that causes smaller objects to move toward it. Can you somehow "raise" that mass such that it wouldn't be bending space-time as much?I don't think so.


People control and manipulate gravity in sci-fi movies all the time, though.
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People control and manipulate gravity in sci-fi movies all the time, though.


Movies. It's Science Fiction. We can't manipulate space-time any more than we can force God to do something.
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. It's Science . We can't manipulate space-time any more than we can force God to do something.


I'm only arguing for the sake of it working here, not IRL. Trust me, I have no plans to build a city as big as Waternaux. At least for the next twenty years, haha.
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I'm only arguing for the sake of it working here, not IRL. Trust me, I have no plans to build a city as big as Waternaux. At least for the next twenty years, haha.


I'm perfectly fine with it being here, I just want to see how you justify it :P
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I'm perfectly fine with it being here, I just want to see how you justify it :P


Well, IRL, I don't think we can for the next long time. But I don't believe it's impossible. If humanity comes far enough, who knows? If God means for is to get that far, who knows? I don't. I just think that it is possible once we hit that point in scientific development. But to answer your statement, it could very well be possible to support the fabric of space-time, somehow.
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So, everyone, which character of yours is the best candidate for a kidnapping? Need to know for a Martyn series finale.
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So, everyone, which character of yours is the best candidate for a kidnapping? Need to know for a Martyn series finale.


Spirit isn't, for obvious reasons, Elkepzel and Maddie can manipulate reality to get out, so Ruby. Soren is probably going to be Svár for a while. Ken and Anna are in the next Scale.
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So, everyone, which character of yours is the best candidate for a kidnapping? Need to know for a Martyn series finale.


You're free to kidnap Neko.
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. It's Science . We can't manipulate space-time any more than we can force God to do something.


Technically we can't force someone to do something with a voice/touch, generate unlimited electricity within our bodies, control the fabric of space, control the fabric of time, shapeshift, control elements to the nth degree, make matter out of energy, harden our blood to near indestructible bounds, become so slick that no physical object can touch you, etcetera.
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Well, IRL, I don't think we can for the next long time. But I don't believe it's impossible. If humanity comes far enough, who knows? If God means for is to get that far, who knows? I don't. I just think that it is possible once we hit that point in scientific development. But to answer your statement, it could very well be possible to support the fabric of space-time, somehow.


If you need an explanation, you could just say that Sven based the technology on Data's abilities. I just want to know how he created it in that amount on time; I'm not really concerned with theoretical, conceptual issues.
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So, everyone, which character of yours is the best candidate for a kidnapping? Need to know for a Martyn series finale.


Serenity, Sinon, Gajeel's daughter Avis, and...I think that's all.
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You're free to kidnap Neko. Technically we can't force someone to do something with a voice/touch, generate unlimited electricity within our bodies, control the fabric of space, control the fabric of time, shapeshift, control elements to the nth degree, make matter out of energy, harden our blood to near indestructible bounds, become so slick that no physical object can touch you, etcetera.If you need an explanation, you could just say that Sven based the technology on Data's abilities. I just want to know how he created it in that amount on time; I'm not really concerned with theoretical, conceptual issues.


Heh.
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Spirit isn't, for obvious reasons, Elkepzel and Maddie can manipulate reality to get out, so Ruby. Soren is probably going to be Svár for a while. Ken and Anna are in the next Scale.


Actually wait Ruby can't be kidnapped since she's vital to the plot with Svár.
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Legend said
You're free to kidnap Neko. Technically we can't force someone to do something with a voice/touch, generate unlimited electricity within our bodies, control the fabric of space, control the fabric of time, shapeshift, control elements to the nth degree, make matter out of energy, harden our blood to near indestructible bounds, become so slick that no physical object can touch you, etcetera.If you need an explanation, you could just say that Sven based the technology on Data's abilities. I just want to know how he created it in that amount on time; I'm not really concerned with theoretical, conceptual issues.


Did we clarify that, though?

And to everyone, that's noted. Though I'd like for you to have the single one you'd like to RP as most, Blitz, so I don't have to make that choice for you. And I may start tonight or tomorrow, and it may last 1 or two days, the latter depending upon character choice.
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