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Undoubtedly on his to-do list... Hopefully.


I kind of doubt it.
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I kind of doubt it.


*Groans loudly*
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*Groans loudly*


I could email him or something.
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Legend said
I could email him or something.


"Would he answer?" is the question.
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"Would he answer?" is the question.


Possibly. I genuinely have no idea.
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Legend said
Possibly. I genuinely have no idea.


My money's on no.
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My money's on no.


I agree.
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So I decided that I would compose a list of all the conditions that would have to be met for life to form out of non-life according to the evolutionary perspective, just in case I ever encounter someone talking about it on the internet:

In order for life to possibly form from non-life, when the lightning struck:
A sufficient amount of amino acids would have to be formed (countless)
All amino acids would have to be either right or left-handed (experiments produce both)
All the right proteins would have to be formed (countless)
For each protein to be formed, odds of over 4 quadrilion to one would have to be overcome
All the right proteins must form the various parts of the cell (each of which are very complex)
All of this must happen all at once
All of this must happen with everything forming in exactly the right places
There should be no left-over proteins or amino acids that could poison the cell
The cell must find food
The cell must survive an atmosphere that is poisonous to it (the cell speculated to be the first cell wasn't fit for its environment)
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So I decided that I would compose a list of all the conditions that would have to be met for life to form out of non-life according to the evolutionary perspective, just in case I ever encounter someone talking about it on the internet:In order for life to possibly form from non-life, when the lightning struck:A sufficient amount of amino acids would have to be formed (countless)All amino acids would have to be either right or left-handed (experiments produce both)All the right proteins would have to be formed (countless)For each protein to be formed, odds of over 4 quadrilion to one would have to be overcomeAll the right proteins must form the various parts of the cell (each of which are very complex)All of this must happen all at onceAll of this must happen with everything forming in exactly the right placesThere should be no left-over proteins or amino acids that could poison the cellThe cell must find foodThe cell must survive an atmosphere that is poisonous to it (the cell speculated to be the first cell wasn't fit for its environment)


Weird. I'm currently in a discussion (not a debate) with an evolutionist about this.
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Weird. I'm currently in a discussion (not a debate) with an evolutionist about this.


Life coming from non-life? Use that, I guess.
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So I decided that I would compose a list of all the conditions that would have to be met for life to form out of non-life according to the evolutionary perspective, just in case I ever encounter someone talking about it on the internet:In order for life to possibly form from non-life, when the lightning struck:A sufficient amount of amino acids would have to be formed (countless)All amino acids would have to be either right or left-handed (experiments produce both)All the right proteins would have to be formed (countless)For each protein to be formed, odds of over 4 quadrilion to one would have to be overcomeAll the right proteins must form the various parts of the cell (each of which are very complex)All of this must happen all at onceAll of this must happen with everything forming in exactly the right placesThere should be no left-over proteins or amino acids that could poison the cellThe cell must find foodThe cell must survive an atmosphere that is poisonous to it (the cell speculated to be the first cell wasn't fit for its environment)


"Better odds than there being some magic-man in the sky that created the universe and everything."
-Extremely Stubborn and Arrogant Atheists
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Life coming from non-life? Use that, I guess.


He's trying to give me the Miller Urey experiments as evidence.
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"Better odds than there being some magic-man in the sky that created the universe and everything."-Extremely Stubborn and Arrogant Atheists


i know atheists that are willing to listen to debate, theyve just been told what to believe by too many people and they are unsure.
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i know atheists that are willing to listen to debate, theyve just been told what to believe by too many people and they are unsure.


Most outspoken atheists on ifunny are very stubborn and obnoxious, without any opportunity to change their minds. Although most will debate.
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Most outspoken atheists on ifunny are very stubborn and obnoxious, without any opportunity to change their minds. Although most will debate.


yeah, many of my close friends are atheists, but arent outspoken and tolerate all religions.
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yeah, many of my close friends are atheists, but arent outspoken and tolerate all religions.


Not most that I know.
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i know atheists that are willing to listen to debate, theyve just been told what to believe by too many people and they are unsure.


I know that lots of atheists where I live are very tolerant, and many more are actually open minded as just waiting for the right thing to convince them. On the internet, though....
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I know that lots of atheists where I live are very tolerant, and many more are actually open minded as just waiting for the right thing to convince them. On the internet, though....


No, no, they say that they're waiting for it, but they're not.
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No, no, they say that they're waiting for it, but they're not.


that is false, my friends are looking for religion. they just dont know what to believe.
ive also learned not to force religion on those who arent sure of it, to let them find it on their own.
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that is false, my friends are looking for religion. they just dont know what to believe.ive also learned not to force religion on those who arent sure of it, to let them find it on their own.


Those would be agnostic. Atheists don't want it. And who can find something that nobody leads them to?
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