[OOC] Myriad Reality

[Multifarious]

Etcetera said
Subconscious patterns.Even if our plots are cliche and repetative? And no, I'm not offended. I'm just mentioning what's been said as evidence.

Remember when I said I wasn't sick of your characters because I don't use them? We already established that much.
Remember that cliché isn't a bad thing necessarily, as long as it's done right. I just wanna mix it up a lot on my end.

[whizzball1]

Multifarious said
That's just about spot on, there.

Etcetera said
Subconscious patterns.Even if our plots are cliche and repetative? And no, I'm not offended. I'm just mentioning what's been said as evidence.

Jacob, do you think our plots are cliché and repetitive, or just yours? Or specific ones?

[Multifarious]

whizzball1 said
Jacob, do you think our plots are cliché and repetitive, or just yours? Or specific ones?

Both, really (the first two). And I try really hard to not be either.

[Etcetera]

Multifarious said
Both, really (the first two). And I try really hard to not be either.

Could you give an example? I've made plots the same way since the beginning.

Multifarious said
Remember when I said I wasn't sick of your characters because I don't use them? We already established that much.Remember that cliché isn't a bad thing necessarily, as long as it's done right. I just wanna mix it up a lot on my end.

But in another way you did.

[Etcetera]

Oopdayte.

[Multifarious]

Etcetera said
I've made plots the same way since the beginning.

Doesn't this kinda prove my point though?

Etcetera said
But in another way you did.

I don't believe I did, no.

[Etcetera]

Multifarious said
Doesn't this kinda prove my point though?I don't believe I did, no.

Not in the slightest. Using the same formula should render each plot equally effective. Besides, I don't know if there's another method to make plots.

A moment and I'll find it.

[whizzball1]

Multifarious said
Both, really (the first two). And I try really hard to not be either.

When have I been repetitive? =P Althouh really I've only had one actual plot so far, the whole Ruby, Svár, Nova, and soon Arthur thing. I'm trying to keep the next part as non-cliché as possible.

[Multifarious]

Etcetera said
Not in the slightest. Using the same formula should render each plot equally effective. Besides, I don't know if there's another method to make plots.A moment and I'll find it.

Using the same formula usually yields the same patterns.

whizzball1 said
When have I been repetitive? =P Althouh really I've only had one plot so far, the whole Ruby, Svár, Nova, and soon Arthur thing. I'm trying to keep the next part as non-cliché as possible.

At risk of being hated for making a joke, your repititive quality is (or was) cutting your plots off without any climactic ending.

[Etcetera]

Multifarious said
Using the same formula usually yields the same patterns.At risk of being hated for making a joke, your repititive quality is (or was) cutting your plots off without any climactic ending.

The formula of using whatever idea strikes me as a good one? Because if it does, then I might as well stop writing.

[Dynamics]

Multifarious said
I just have a feeling that this one has lost its initial flare, and we've all filled it with clichés and repititions of our own. I can predict patterns in just about every plot, and even almost completely accurately when a new character is going to be introduced to "spice things up again". But when you add too much apice to a dish, it loses it's original flare. I love this RP and all, but I'm almost out of motivation to keep it going with any effort on my part. I miss the way it used to be. A complex idea with complex plots, simple characters with simple powers, and not 100+ characters to boot. It just feels like it isn't the MR i came to love, but rather something I find that I use to bide my time with. And it also makes me feel bad, because I know you all love it, even now, probably much more than I do. But that's just how I feel.

There you go.

[whizzball1]

Multifarious said
Using the same formula usually yields the same patterns.At risk of being hated for making a joke, your repititive quality is (or was) cutting your plots off without any climactic ending.

I was, to be perfectly frank, rather an idiot. My plots were utterly terrible. Evil Ruby/Melawe failed miserably (although I think I did a good job of tying it into this plot remotely so it wouldn't be a fluke that never had any impact). Spirit's love bout was terribly thought out.

[Multifarious]

Dynamics said
There you go.

That was just me talking about how MR isn't like it was way back when. When I enjoyed it the most. I still don't see how you pulled me not liking your characters from that.

Etcetera said
The formula of using whatever idea strikes me as a good one? Because if it does, then I might as well stop writing.

Nah, my biggest thing is that with each of your plots, it's all about the next villain simply being more powerful in some physical area than the last. Never a smarter, or more cunning, or deceptive, or stealthy foe. Just power. And any arcs involving traits I just mentioned must have been carried out during one of my absences.

[Multifarious]

whizzball1 said
I was, to be perfectly frank, rather an idiot. My plots were utterly terrible. Evil Ruby/Melawe failed miserably (although I think I did a good job of tying it into this plot remotely so it wouldn't be a fluke that never had any impact). Spirit's love bout was terribly thought out.

Idiot is a really strong word when used outside of humor.

[Multifarious]

You know how far double-standards and political correctness have gone when you see an ad for a women-only hospital.

[Multifarious]

What kind of bullets are these mercenaries using if Ruby needs to be concerned with them hitting her?

[Dynamics]

Multifarious said
That was just me talking about how MR isn't like it was way back when. When I enjoyed it the most. I still don't see how you pulled me not liking your characters from that.Nah, my biggest thing is that with each of your plots, it's all about the next villain simply being more powerful in some physical area than the last. Never a smarter, or more cunning, or deceptive, or stealthy foe. Just power. And any arcs involving traits I just mentioned must have been carried out during one of my absences.

Evil Dynamo? Relatively weak, but evasive and cunning? The one right under your nose that you don't know about? (Maybe serious, maybe not). Baphumet, who uses skills and tricks? But I'll be honest with you, I have a lot of power focus. But power is a huge factor in my mind, so it makes sense.

Look, I'm going to take myself up on my own offer from a while back and say something that's been on my mind. I have awesome things in store, things that nobody would ever expect me to do, but I feel that nothing gets done because I'm the only one here. I can't actually start anything because I'm left alone after five minutes, and I've felt that way for a while now. Like, I've only gotten what, two final bosses in the past year? I feel like I'm restricted between letting you guys do your plots while you are IC, and performing my own, which I never happen to get to, because a lot of the time it feel like whoever is there at the time is about to begin exposition, when it turns out to be small talk.

[Dynamics]

Multifarious said
You know how far double-standards and political correctness have gone when you see an ad for a women-only hospital.

Majorly.

[whizzball1]

Multifarious said
That was just me talking about how MR isn't like it was way back when. When I enjoyed it the most. I still don't see how you pulled me not liking your characters from that.Nah, my biggest thing is that with each of your plots, it's all about the next villain simply being more powerful in some physical area than the last. Never a smarter, or more cunning, or deceptive, or stealthy foe. Just power. And any arcs involving traits I just mentioned must have been carried out during one of my absences.

Conflict isn't always man vs. man. Svár's just a part of it. We've got the inexplicable mercs, the ever-increasingly dangerous splitting of Ruby's mind, and at the same time dealing with the emotions of one part loving Arthur and another part hating him. Good literature should not only place focus on living villains, but emotions, nature, etcetera. Man vs. himself is my most preferred of all central conflicts, and it's the biggest focus in the story I'm writing.

Multifarious said
Idiot is a really strong word when used outside of humor.

I know that perfectly well. In comparison to me now, the naïveté of me back then is incomprehensibly terrible.

[Multifarious]

Dynamics said
Evil Dynamo? Relatively weak, but evasive and cunning? The one right under your nose that you don't know about? (Maybe serious, maybe not). Baphumet, who uses skills and tricks? But I'll be honest with you, I have a lot of power focus. But power is a huge factor in my mind, so it makes sense.Look, I'm going to take myself up on my own offer from a while back and say something that's been on my mind. I have awesome things in store, things that nobody would ever expect me to do, but I feel that nothing gets done because I'm the only one here. I can't actually start anything because I'm left alone after five minutes, and I've felt that way for a while now. Like, I've only gotten what, two final bosses in the past year? I feel like I'm restricted between letting you guys do your plots while you are IC, and performing my own, which I never happen to get to, because a lot of the time it feel like whoever is there at the time is about to begin exposition, when it turns out to be small talk.

ED never struck me as weak, particularly, and I only rmember Baphumet being Dark's. I know you have something with him coming up though, if I remember right.

Also, I don't really know what to say to that except to be more assertive, and I apologize for not being here as much as I'd like.