Dipper said
That is unfortunate, and honestly suits need to be put on a leash, but we still need people like Bobby Kotick, good buisnessmen. Too many suits, we get games approved by comitee, and 'we needs to reach out to the CoD base.Too little, you get dreamfactories like Shaffer or games like Bioblunder Infinite and Brutal Legend. Take Shaffer for example - Intended to make a game on 50k - Got 3.3 million from the kick starter. Blew all three point three fucking million on the first half on a point and click adventure game because he can't manage money for shit, then complains he has to finish the rest out of his own pocket and goes begging for MORE donations.
Quick tidbit on Broken Age; Schafer put out a full transcript on how the money thing went down. Its legit, its not poor management. There is a thing called living expenses, wages, rent and studio costs. Of course, you are so happy to attack the man, who I might add, made a good, albeit short game. So happy to just attack individuals without having any real insight in the problem. Every single time Dipper. And you attack people for having different taste then you, putting you in the spot of a huge hypocrite. A reveiewer might ACTUALLY LIKE Gone home. This does not make it a bad reviwer. IT means he values things differently. RPS niched themselves towards indie games that they LIKED and issues they cared about. This has now been deemed a crime by people like you, who attacked their stream of revenue. This is called supression of speach. This is what groups have done troughout the time. It's not a consumers revolution. You are attacking revenue streams you likely didn't even consume.
Gone home is a game, it has a win condition, it has the ability to move around, manipulate your surroundings and figure out what is going on. Voila, it's a game. It's a missmarketed game, It really is. And In my opinion, not a great game. But they tried to be different, and they had a story to tell. THat is also part of videogames. To deny it, is to really throw mud on your own cherished identity as a "Gamer". Becouse you are constantly berating games that are trying different things. Who are not to your own liking. Thus, you show to the outside, everything that people are saying is the problem. You are showing a narrowminded, selfassuring, conservative, protectionist stance. A stance that makes you look like a entitled little kid, who refuses to let others play unless they like the same toys as you. A person that can't allow people to like or think in a way that is different from yours. And Dipper, I don't think that was ever your intention of being percived. But you really need to start to slow down, and analyze your own posts and language. YOur own statements. Bravo had to slap you down once, and he is the strongest advocate for the cause you so vehemtly protect on this site currently.
As for the Mighty 9. I was one of the poeple who threw ALOT of money on it. I was in direct contact with some of the people during the stuff tha went down. I don't think I have been so pissed over a game as I was over how she, the community manager, acted. That does not give me Casus Belli to fling feces and spit bile and venom over the collective of people that makes games. It does not give me the right, to judge others lest I want to be judged in the same way. The thing is, there was never even a 10th of the outrage I see now, over IGNs much dirtier buisness. No, you are going after people with numbers, collective agression and admittedly, intelligent reasoning in terms of strategy. But what sparked it? Everysingle thing Gwazi has said per example, has directed towards feminism in some manner. And in other threads he made broad sweeping statements about women. And I think alot of the general power behind the movement initially came from places like /pol/ where they want to be as vile as possible against these womens speaking out against sexism. People who just want to fuel the fire.
The jokes posted in the thread earlier, speak of a great disgust over SWJs and a complete ridicule of them. That in itself, makes me question the legitimacy of statements regarding the whole thing. It becomes a case of personal bias and ugly vitrol. There is a personal conflict of vindication here, to claim otherwise is downright willfull ignorance. Leigh, was/is a idiot. I never understood why Gamesutra sticked with her, I reckon becouse sacking her would have led to a different backlash to be honest. However, several of those tweets showed a woman angry at daily harresment from other people. She was just ignorant enough to vent them is a public space, in the worst way possible. And yes. She should have been canned for it (or at the very least, be forced to make a public apology), albeit her "racism" was far less severe as it were, then the examples you gave.
But I have to go back to a point I made before you attacked my person, and Brovo shut you down for it. YOu once said that SWJ's were like a cult. We took it as a joke, a ironic one at that. Here is why. You treat Gaming as a "We". You have percieved slights against your group, your state of "We". You are calling people who didn't agree with you, or let you have freedom to spit vile over these "slights" for Traitors. You have bought in, so heaviliy into being a gamer, that you let it define who you are. Just like a SWJ has bought into her view. You are vichiusly, not always logically, defending this state of being like you would wilter away without it. Herein lies a huge problem. You are attacking people for being different then you. Not for being a different race, a different gender. No, you are attacking 'none-gamers' as you point it out. And you do it in a manner that makes you, look worse. Far, far worse.
You do realize, what is gonna happen next right. Movments like GG is gonna spawn Counter Movements. Ones that are gonna pressure webhosts I bet. You want a war of cencorship, personal bias and bringing gaming into the worst possible light, you are gonna get it. And those of us that are capable of looking at more then one side of the argument is gonna suffer from it.
This is the last I say on the subject. IT has taken far more effort and time then I wish to waste.
