Magic Magnum said
You lost, and your clear hostility to me only highlights that you recognize this. :)
Fun fact: the moment you start declaring yourself the winner of an internet debate you lose all credibility and end up looking like a twat. There are no rules for an internet debate, there are no judges, there is no formal scoring system, so on and so forth. All such a declaration does is make people dismiss you as an annoying blowhard who can't stand being seen as wrong, so you have to declare the rightness of your opinions by claiming to have won a debate. Seriously, only negative responses come from saying you won the internet debate. Don't do it.
Magic Magnum said
I love how spam always likes to blame me for these, and never acknowledge the other person who also made arguments who had a role in it.
Okay, so, remember how you've said in other places that almost every time you come into Spam you end up in some kind of argument/debate? Remember how they almost always end up with you being viewed in a negative way? Now, here's a simple thought exercise for you. Remember all those past Spam debates. Think of who was involved. Think of all the various people who were part of these debates. Okay, now, what is the common factor to all those poorly viewed debates? You are. You're a part of all of them. An interesting fact to note is that debates and arguments happen all the time in Spam, yet most of the time they don't end with everyone openly saying "ugh fuck that one guy who was part of it." For some reason they do that with you. Hrm.
Now go take a look at how the argument in this thread started and progressed. Dervish posted his opinion about boredom in the modern age, directed at nobody at all, just an opinion drop. Then you posted with a direct disagreement to his opinion. Regardless of the fact that you did not quote his post to make it a direct response, it clearly was meant as a counterpoint to what he said. You started the disagreement. This is an important point, because when stupid arguments debates happen people tend to look at whoever started them as the one more at fault. Dervish responded directly, which turned it into an internet argument. Want to take a wild guess where it went from run of the mill argument to full on debate? That's right, your very next post, where you tried to go big dick internet debater mode and cited a formal logical fallacy. This is also important: people who bring the whole logical fallacy thing up in normal arguments are viewed negatively, because instead of actually continuing any possible rational dialogue it puts up a big wall of "nope, fuck you, you did this so your entire opinion is wrong" between yourself and the person you're calling logical fallacy on. Notice how that was where rational discourse broke down and you started being dismissed as an e-peen stroking internet derpbater. You only exacerbated this by citing further fallacies and claiming to have won the debate.
This is how it usually goes down with you in Spam, from what I've seen. You go start some argument, try to wheel out the internet debate podiums, and then people shit all over you for it. The majority of people who frequent Spam are not into the whole internet debate thing (they like to keep it to informal arguments), which is why they avoid Off-Topic, so you bringing it here causes negative backlash from both the people you're arguing with and from third parties. Are the other people involved also at fault? Sure, but you're the one who does the internet debate things that people in Spam view negatively, so you get the worst of it. This is of course inflated by you being an outsider going up against a Spam regular, but the core if it is the internet debate thing. That's why people in Spam have a generally negative opinion of you.
I'll end it on some friendly advice. If you want to try to jump into Spam and have fun, then try to avoid getting into arguments. If you must get into an argument, try to keep it in the informal realm instead of going OT debate mode on it. If you cannot avoid arguments and you cannot help going full on internet debate mode, you might want to just call it quits on Spam since you'll just repeat the same cycle of negativity directed at you over and over again, and that's not very conducive to having a good time.
