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[Captain Jordan]

Omega said
So does this mean the erotic RP subforum is not happening?

Is there a real need for an entire subforum for this? I was under the impression that most of the erotic RPs were done more as 1x1, and thus were easily accomplished as private convos.

[TheDookieNut]

Captain Jordan said
Is there a real need for an entire subforum for this? I was under the impression that most of the erotic RPs were done more as 1x1, and thus were easily accomplished as private convos.

You've never hung round in 1x1. It's hard not to find one

[Feed]

Greetings,

Now maybe it is overstepping my place at this point or maybe it is too much trouble but on other forums I've seen it done and I've seen it work. Would it be unfeasible to find a few select people that can be trusted to do the job of moderating particular forums? For example, it is member X's and/or member Y's job to sort of police the 1x1 section. Now, I don't necessarily mean they have to read every line of every post. But maybe skim through just to keep track. Obviously this might be the most annoying in Spam where things are continually getting a little more edgy or maybe it is a tall order given the collective maturity level of the guild. However, while we would like to think everyone can be responsible and realize that the needs of the many certainly outweigh the needs of the one with regards to the forum there will always be people who don't care and continually push the envelope regardless of how nice it is asked.

This is just a thought however and certainly a big and time consuming opportunity should anything like this be considered a viable option. However, if it could work I would certainly suggest promoting two or three people to have the capability of deleting posts per particular category on the forum to help aid the effort. I think it is certainly worth some consideration if only to keep Mahz's pocketbook from taking a big hit. And if it isn't believed to be feasible take a look at some of the other big RP forums. I wish Desert Realm still existed I'd link it up personally to prove it.

Any who, just something to think about.

[Scout]

TheDookieNut said
It's never going to happen. Go to omegle.

I think, Dookie, your signature made this post absolute gold.

[ApocalypticaGM]

@Feed: I totally see the appeal of this idea. That said, I do think the notion of self-policing may be a more rewarding path toward keeping our forums running. The simple fact is that designating a couple moderators searching for inappropriate material is, as you said, a pretty tall order that most everyone will know could not possibly cover every post -- even if only in a single forum. The report button is a great way of throwing off this sort of activity. Reason being, even if both players in a 1x1 consent, if others who frequent the forum see the activity they may well not think it's worth risking our entire forum staying quiet. Each individual skimming through threads they find interesting seems a more effective way to canvas forums. If we had the money to pay for that kind of moderation, might not be a problem. I'd apply to join the Smut Police.

[Feed]

That is a good point made. The report button sort of plays the same role as police presence in high crime neighborhoods. However, self-policing is highly problematic at least in a 1x1 sense. With the other areas there is enough traffic with enough people that most may consider reporting problematic posts. Or you may end up with the group think concept similar to what happens with crimes that happen on the streets near large crowds. "Why should I report it, someone else will take care of it." It is the same reason if you are being attacked and call out for help to single out an individual somehow like, "hey you in the red shirt." So that is somewhat problematic.

However, I'm not sure how the traffic is within a 1x1. Quite frankly, over the years I have never actually viewed a 1x1 that I wasn't personally involved with. I found no prudence to do so. But I may be the outlier. I'm not quite sure what appeal 1x1 would have with regards to other players with the exceptions of friends and that sort of bias would detract from what might actually be considered reportable material. A friend may give the wrong-doer a little benefit of the doubt with the material in question. And as you already mentioned, if the participants are consensual they may not report the other player at all.

So perhaps I am overanalyzing things as I have been known to do. But people were provided the option to self-police previously. There was a report button if I remember correctly. And if I am correct in remembering, it failed.

[Touch of Insanity]

I agree with Feed about the lack of traffic through the 1x1 section. I solely do 1x1 role plays, but I never read any other threads rather then my own, and I believe people in that section would do the same, since the role play isn't open for more players. They're may be a few very few people who read a random one here or there but, if they themselves are reading the role play and have an interest in it, they most likely wont want to stop the story they are reading. I had posed the question if people read role plays they aren't in, in the discussion sub form and all the people who did answer read group role plays.

I myself have never done anything that was over the line, but I can't say for others in the 1x1 section. It also brings up the question what is pg13? Which I believe was what the site's rating was before. When's the right moment to fade to black? Or even in battle type role plays, who much detail is too much detail? I know we have the rules set up, but they are very general which could lead to issues.

[thorgili]

Touch of Insanity said
I agree with Feed about the lack of traffic through the 1x1 section. I solely do 1x1 role plays, but I never read any other threads rather then my own, and I believe people in that section would do the same, since the role play isn't open for more players. They're may be a few very few people who read a random one here or there but, if they themselves are reading the role play and have an interest in it, they most likely wont want to stop the story they are reading. I had posed the question if people read role plays they aren't in, in the discussion sub form and all the people who did answer read group role plays.I myself have never done anything that was over the line, but I can't say for others in the 1x1 section. It also brings up the question what is pg13? Which I believe was what the site's rating was before. When's the right moment to fade to black? Or even in battle type role plays, who much detail is too much detail? I know we have the rules set up, but they are very general which could lead to issues.

Well me and my very brunt libertarian no non sense if your offended by it then don't read it attitude (objectivism FTW) say that really there shouldn't we a required time to fade to black. you know if you want to write bout that stuff go ahead and anyone who doesn't like it or is offended (I am looking at you liberals) then why the hell did they search it up in the first place like really I personally perfer not to see sexual macabre on my forums ands that's why I pronto looking for it and if I see something that might British don't look at it and if I do well shame on me for being a retarded and looking. Same thing goes for any sort of niche thing ranging from brony cupcakes to hyper realistic blood.

[Mahz]

thorgili said
Well me and my very brunt libertarian no non sense if your offended by it then don't read it attitude (objectivism FTW) say that really there shouldn't we a required time to fade to black. you know if you want to write bout that stuff go ahead and anyone who doesn't like it or is offended (I am looking at you liberals) then why the hell did they search it up in the first place like really I personally perfer not to see sexual macabre on my forums ands that's why I pronto looking for it and if I see something that might British don't look at it and if I do well shame on me for being a retarded and looking. Same thing goes for any sort of niche thing ranging from brony cupcakes to hyper realistic blood.

Unfortunately, the issue is that most ad platforms forbid adult material.

[ApocalypticaGM]

thorgili said
Well me and my very brunt libertarian no non sense if your offended by it then don't read it attitude (objectivism FTW) say that really there shouldn't we a required time to fade to black. you know if you want to write bout that stuff go ahead and anyone who doesn't like it or is offended (I am looking at you liberals) then why the hell did they search it up in the first place like really I personally perfer not to see sexual macabre on my forums ands that's why I pronto looking for it and if I see something that might British don't look at it and if I do well shame on me for being a retarded and looking. Same thing goes for any sort of niche thing ranging from brony cupcakes to hyper realistic blood.

Return the OP. Going ahead and writing these situations can, like before, cut off our funding -- so no RPG. All politics aside, we all use this service and no one individual has a right to ruin it for everyone. That's the whole point. How we moderate that is important too and while I think the Report button should be emphasized, I do think discussion is really good for coming up with other solutions. Suggesting people should commit the behaviour is literally the problem... I appreciate your point broadly speaking, but right here in RPG we should consider how to maintain this community we are lucky to be given a place to nurture.

[TheDookieNut]

Scout said
I think, Dookie, your signature made this post absolute .

Remind me which one it was.

[AbigailTenshi]

Would it be possible to have group PM's to also do private RP's in? Not for smut, I'm thinking about more the for the blood and gore horror type of RP's. I personally think that a Mature section would be great, one that can't be seen by guests and for members only. And it shouldn't be just for smut but for all of the mature genre's ^_^

[TheDookieNut]

There's no ability to stop people finding it by accident and ending up upset

[Feed]

thorgili said
Well me and my very brunt libertarian no non sense if your offended by it then don't read it attitude (objectivism FTW) say that really there shouldn't we a required time to fade to black. you know if you want to write bout that stuff go ahead and anyone who doesn't like it or is offended (I am looking at you liberals) then why the hell did they search it up in the first place like really I personally perfer not to see sexual macabre on my forums ands that's why I pronto looking for it and if I see something that might British don't look at it and if I do well shame on me for being a retarded and looking. Same thing goes for any sort of niche thing ranging from brony cupcakes to hyper realistic blood.

I'll agree with what has previously been said. I can appreciate the sentiment on a real world application. However, given that ad sense picks up on pretty much everything that no one should be derp and simply abstain from any unnecessarily graphic material of the sexual nature. As it has been suggested take it to PMs. And while I generally abhor the smut written into stories, I can appreciate that some people enjoy it but as has already been suggested no one should have the right to deprive others of the guild because they can't "keep it in their pants."

As it were, adding a mature section would not solve the problem because the ad sense would pick up on it. Now I'm not sure what capabilities Mahz has to control the program but I don't think he can pick and choose what ad sense goes through to draw source information from to generate adds. On any accord, I don't think violence or gore will influence it too negatively.

I would say don't derp it on and stay cool like the Fonz but that's already proven problematic for certain individuals.

[Pachamac]

Not advocating a mature section and the brazen posting of smut when it can quite easily be done in PM (and... if people want to get frisky group wise then PMs do that now too? o.o) but

pssst

donations? :>

Or at least, if heaven forbid we do have a repeat occurence of what happened the last time adsense was forced to be taken away, then donations be considered?

[Captain Jordan]

AbigailTenshi said
Would it be possible to have group PM's to also do private RP's in? Not for smut, I'm thinking about more the for the blood and gore horror type of RP's. I personally think that a Mature section would be great, one that can't be seen by guests and for members only. And it shouldn't be just for smut but for all of the mature genre's ^_^

Group PMs are already possible. What's yet to be developed is the ability to invite someone into the conversation mid-way, so you have to start the PM with the group already established.

I currently have a few PMs with multiple recipients, and we're all chatting wonderfully.

[Pachamac]

Is 'chatting wonderfully' code for 'smutting wonderfully'? :D

[Captain Jordan]

Pachamac said
Is 'chatting wonderfully' code for 'smutting wonderfully'? :D

No, it's code for 'it works, bitches!'

[HeySeuss]

thorgili said
Well me and my very brunt libertarian no non sense if your offended by it then don't read it attitude (objectivism FTW) say that really there shouldn't we a required time to fade to black. you know if you want to write bout that stuff go ahead and anyone who doesn't like it or is offended (I am looking at you liberals) then why the hell did they search it up in the first place like really I personally perfer not to see sexual macabre on my forums ands that's why I pronto looking for it and if I see something that might British don't look at it and if I do well shame on me for being a retarded and looking. Same thing goes for any sort of niche thing ranging from brony cupcakes to hyper realistic blood.

tl;dr: If we want Google's money, we gotta play by Google's rules.

It's not about people being offended. It's about Google. This isn't politics, beliefs or anything having to do with anyone on the Guild being easily offended or prudery. This is about a huge corporate entity that we nonetheless depend on in order to keep the Guild running. It's a bottom line issue, not an issue of preference. Even Google is doing this because they think that culling out certain content benefits their bottom line. Somewhere in there is a cost-versus-benefit analysis that justifies their policies. They're about making the money.

I will reiterate:

Google doesn't hate. Google doesn't get mad. Google just yanks funding for your free entertainment. The people at Google that do this have probably seen far worse and are not impressed.

I couldn't care less if someone wants to post smut or whatever publicly. If you think any of that offends me, that's not the case. If you think my personal beliefs fuel this conversation, no, think again -- I work in a commercial kitchen and most everything any of you could muster up in the way of profanity, obscenity and statements intended to offend wouldn't put a dent in me. My work environment tends to involve the vilest stuff tossed around as a joke, and I laugh along with them.

No, I'm not personally offended and that's not why I'm asking people to be careful about what they're posting. What's happening here is that I know that posting that stuff yanks google's funding. I don't control it, they do. It's their program, their money and they do what they want with it. If we want that money, we gotta play by their rules -- we aren't entitled to it. It's their money and if they so decide to cut us off, guess what? We're cut off and that's tough. So we do it their way because this is mahz's site and he wants to do it that way.

That's the bottom line and why we don't post smut in public here. Not because people are offended, but because we lose the money that pays to keep this site open and free for the user. I called for people to self-regulate and take some responsibility for their own actions in order to keep this place going. It's generally the least we can all do given that a lot of people, particularly mahz, have sacrificed to keep this place going while not asking for very much in return.

[Ruby]

TheDookieNut said
You've never hung round in 1x1. It's hard not to find one

Then next time you run across it, report it please. =)

(No Report system? As Hank has pointed out: Post it in the Need Help? section, which is also patrolled by Lillian, our one and only moderator at the moment.)