[OOC] A Crown of Bones

[Nib]

I think if it's a elemental force like the water dragon it would be subject to the Guardians' magic nullification, but if it's a reanimated body or a stone golem it wouldn't be. Just my opinion of course.

[Saltwater Thief]

Feisty-Pants said
You named your Water Serpent Construct Sir Isaac Newton? Fine. I will name my sword "Apple".And that is a question I've been mulling over. If a mage summons a wall of stone, cam I just phase through it because it's magic? It's all very peculiar.I think you're right there, it makes sense at least.

No no, I mean you're still at the mercy of physics.

Rayn Night said
That is why I am asking the question too. Lets take the example of the water dragon. In itself, it is, as you said, an physical element being control by magic. So that is fine, nothing really happens. But lets say that the dragon claws a Guardian. The physics of the Guardian being hit still takes place, but the construct came into contact WITH the guardian which is immune to magic... So would part of the claws fall to the ground like normal water as the magic can't be sustained?I know it sounds really idiotic, but I have to ask xD

I would venture to say no. The example brand gave was that a Guardian would take a fireball to the face no problem, but a forest fire started by that fireball would still kill them.

[Saltwater Thief]

Double post, but the trick is that the magic immunity is just protection against direct magic ad opposed to some kind of anti magic field or something. So it seems to me anyway.

[Feisty-Pants]

Curses/Illusions/Direct Damage magic wouldn't work.

However, shrapnel from an explosion caused by magic hurts. Makes sense!

Suddenly, I've a feeling it isn't so awesome to be a Guardian. ._.

[Saltwater Thief]

Well, look at it this way- mages can't be told at a glance from normal people. Guardians are probably the same. So, Mr feral mage sees what he takes to be a nobody, chucks a fireball at you, and suddenly bad for him.

[Rayn Night]

Saltwater Thief said
No no, I mean you're still at the mercy of physics.

I would venture to say no. The example brand gave was that a Guardian would take a fireball to the face no problem, but a forest fire started by that fireball would still kill them.

There is a difference be tween the two:

1. The forest fire is created but not sustained by the magic as would shrapnel be created by the explosion.

2. An undead/construct is created and sustained, which means magic is constantly a part of them. So it would be like a direct attack from a magical source.

That is how I view it mind you. Brand will probably be the judge about it. Either way is fine for me xD I just need to know :P

[Feisty-Pants]

Saltwater Thief said
Well, look at it this way- mages can't be told at a glance from normal people. Guardians are probably the same. So, Mr feral mage sees what he takes to be a nobody, chucks a fireball at you, and suddenly bad for him.

This is true! See my PM you bum. I'm stealing one of your SSB characters. ^_^

And that's a hard call, Rayne. Is the sword the zombie holds still magically inclined? If not...physics? Ouchie stabby stabby?

[Rayn Night]

Feisty-Pants said
This is true! See my PM you bum. I'm stealing one of your SSB characters. ^_^And that's a hard call, Rayne. Is the sword the zombie holds still magically inclined? If not...physics? Ouchie stabby stabby?

Well, if a zombie is holding a sword, than no, cause the sword itself is not magical. The Guardian immunity is direct contact to magic, which is why i am asking so many damn questions xD

[Rayn Night]

Well, the sword itself is fine if held by a zombie/construct. It is more if any of them come into direct contact with a guardian (Since they are created and held up by magic).

[Feisty-Pants]

I'm sure Brand will clear it all up. No matter. ^_^

[Gowi]

Reaper said
Actually, it depends. Soldiers are taught to fight in a unit. Which means their martial training is heavily focused on not killing the guy beside you as well. If Guardians fight in smaller groups or alone, then they'd be better at one-on-one fights.This argument is pointless. Spies with bows, poison and daggers make armour useless. :D

Bow-and-arrow master race go!

[vietmyke]

Reaper said
Actually, it depends. Soldiers are taught to fight in a unit. Which means their martial training is heavily focused on not killing the guy beside you as well. If Guardians fight in smaller groups or alone, then they'd be better at one-on-one fights.This argument is pointless. Spies with bows, poison and daggers make armour useless. :D

That is actually false - or, not the bit about soldiers being trained to fight in a unit, but the whole bows, poisons, and daggers making armor useless.

Sure, poison, bows, and daggers can get through little chinks and joints of the armor, but without armor, said weapons don't need to bother finding the weak points. So armor makes the job of poisons, bows, and daggers just a bit more difficult. Of course, armor is also typically cumbersome and heavy, unless properly fitted. Which is why Emil uses protection magic

[vietmyke]

Also, Gowi, do you want to post first or should I? I don't really have time to do collabs this week because midterms.

[Gowi]

If you have something to go, I can play off of it. I also could lead, trying to brainstorm in word right now actually.

Could go either way.

[vietmyke]

you should lead, Emil is a fairly passive character, so it'd probably be better for him to build off of something. Plus, I'm at work right now, and manager types don't like it when their employees are on the phone for too long.

[Feisty-Pants]

vietmyke said
That is actually false - or, not the bit about soldiers being trained to fight in a unit, but the whole bows, poisons, and daggers making armor useless.Sure, poison, bows, and daggers can get through little chinks and joints of the armor, but without armor, said weapons don't need to bother finding the weak points. So armor makes the job of poisons, bows, and daggers just a bit more difficult. Of course, armor is also typically cumbersome and heavy, unless properly fitted. Which is why Emil uses protection magic

XD

Well, that's also why Kotori wears carefully fitted armor in addition to her arm.

[Gowi]

vietmyke said
you should lead, Emil is a fairly passive character, so it'd probably be better for him to build off of something. Plus, I'm at work right now, and manager types don't like it when their employees are on the phone for too long.

Typing posts on a phone is dirty, anyway.

Yeah, I'll start something with an arbitary quest or something.

How long has Emil been with Edessa?

[Gowi]

Double post, because my internet is intelligent.

[Feisty-Pants]

Gowi said
Typing posts on a phone is dirty, anyway.Yeah, I'll start something with an arbitary quest or something.How long has Emil been with Edessa?

I type on a phone. :(

[Gowi]

Feisty-Pants said
I type on a phone. :(

How do you type what you do with a phone? I'd go insane posting stuff like your first post in the IC on a phone.

*scratches head*

Maybe you just have phone-fu where I do not.