Mahz's Dev Journal

[Ellri]

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My Hider

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doesn't look to be eating such to us, @ravenDivinity

[Shienvien]

A hider will eat a tab when it is the very first thing in its content. Definitely noticed it, and found it rather annoying. I think I tried spaces instead of a tab there, too. Those also got eaten.

[Ellri]

the code can occasionally have a section that tells it to eat whitespaces.

[Shienvien]

I am aware. Just in the given instance, it shouldn't do it. I like my first paragraphs to be nice, too, you see.

[Ellri]

devoured whitespaces at start/end can be very annoying yes. Having it devour excess whitespaces in the middle isn't so annoying. i.e. removing double spaces. But so far as we can see, it doesn't remove those.

[Shienvien]

Unless you want those double empty lines (or spaces) in there for some reason. (I have occasionally done so for a bit "harsher" breaks, or on cellphone, where tabbing often isn't as easy than just inserting five or so spaces.) So it can be preferable to not eat anything in a block that is supposed to come out as text.

[Ellri]

true, @Shienvien. Sometimes, whitespaces are there for a reason.

[Mahz]

Hmm, the bbcode parser definitely is trim-happy where string.trim() is a function that removes all leading/trailing whitespace with impunity including newlines and tabs.

Sometimes when writing post, our whitespace is intentional, but sometimes we use whitespace/newlines only to organize our markup visually and we don't intend all of it to be translated literally. The parser just isn't very refined enough to tell the difference in many cases.

I will experiment with relaxing/removing the trim logic, but the ideal solution is to write a string.smartTrim() function that can recognize the sort of whitespace we add only to make the actual markup aesthetically pleasing.

For example, I want to write this:

[h1]My Title[/h1]
                       <-- Aesthetic newline
Here is my post.

instead of this:

[h1]My Title[/h1] Here is my post.

to get the spacing I want.

<Snipped quote by Mahz> By behaviour, yes. As the last edits dictate, though, the cookie has an expiration date in 2016 ... it simply isn't respected. Tried several times to make sure it was not a browser update or similar one time occurrence messing with it, but no, it keeps happening, and only for RPG. All other cookies seem to work as intended. (FF 40.0.3 for Ubuntu canonical 1.0, at the time being.)

@Shienvien

Thanks for the info. The guild's remember-me cookie expires in one year because apparently one year is the smallest maximum that works in most browsers on most OS. Maybe it isn't working for you because it expires in 365 days + the remaining fraction of the current day. I'll change it to a 300 day expiration to rule out that hypothesis once and for all.

[Ellri]

Is it feasible to make it so that indent tags can be used in lists?right now that requires multiple sets of list tags and condensing it to not get unnecessary line breaks.

[Mahz]

@Ellri Can you provide an example of the sort of markup you wish you could write?

[Rilla]

Do you have any idea when you can add that thing to the Arena, the list? If you still want to do the alphabetical list, can you make it so they still have their rank beside them,or something? It'll help for the next 'season'

[Ellri]

sure, @Mahz.

This is kinda what we'd hope to put, but it gives some nasty error messages if we try:

[list][*]a
[*]a
[indent][*]b
[*]b[/indent]
[*]a
[*]a
[/list]

errors

Errors:

The tag "bbcode" is not allowed as a parent of the tag "*".
The tag "bbcode" is not allowed as a parent of the tag "*".
The tag "bbcode" is not allowed as a parent of the tag "*".
The tag "bbcode" is not allowed as a parent of the tag "*".
Some tags appear to be misaligned.

Instead, we have to do it like this now:

• a
• a

• b
• b

• a
• a

[list][*]a
[*]a[/list][indent][list][*]b
[*]b[/list][/indent][list][*]a
[*]a
[/list]

Note the removal of extra line between each set of list tags. That makes it hard to organize, when such a list is meant for organizing a post.

[Pripovednik]

Not sure whats in the work etc, but an app would be nice :3

[ZayZe]

All I want from a phone app for the guild, would be to have phone notifications when someone posts something on here. That'd make life a lot easier :P

Other than that, my android broswer works great on this forum. No issues.

[Ellri]

We personally think an app would require quite a lot of new coding with only minimal benefit. We'd rather have more complex features first. The notifications bit could be taken care of by, say, implementing the option for email notifications.

[LegendBegins]

@Ellri
From a programming standpoint, it is entirely possible, but leads to increasing effort and diminishing returns.

[Ellri]

@LegendBegins Was that in support of or in counter to our argument?

[LegendBegins]

@LegendBegins Was that in support of or in counter to our argument?

@Ellri

The former. At this point, developing an app for the Guild simply isn't feasible, unless you wish for an experience held together by threads and gum.

[NuttsnBolts]

While an app would be cool, the question is why do people want one, and I believe @Ellri touched base with the answer in the email replies.

I don't believe it's the fact people want to have an app that does the same thing as a web page, but more that they want to be connected to the guild in a more meaningful way and reduce the chances of missing something, which can be helped by email notifications.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

We personally think an app would require quite a lot of new coding with only minimal benefit. We'd rather have more complex features first. The notifications bit could be taken care of by, say, implementing the option for email notifications.

@Ellri

As long as it remains an option to opt out of email notifications, I would see this as the best stopgap solution to people not wishing to miss content. "Tag this topic, when it receives a new post, send me an email notification with who posted in it."

Just my passerby opinion.