House of the Rising Sun?

[Xilaw]

Nah it's fine. Just thought it was funny.

@LordZell

Maybe I didn't think that one through because Jews are bound to be hunted down historically in Austria at the time of the Roleplay.

@Xilaw

Well I believe you said my family was given the rank of count. But what of the current head of House ranks like the Chancellor, Marshall etc.

@LordZell

Those are awarded titles. I will give those away at the start of the Roleplay. You have noble titles like so: Duke (has power over a duchy and receives taxes from counties. Can personally own towns, castles, villages and mines) | Count (has power over a county and receives taxes from towns, castles, villages and mines in the county. Can personally own towns,castles,villages and mines) | Burgrave (similar to viscount. Governor of a castle) | Lord (or Herr. Can own towns and villages) | Knight (can own villages) | Edler (lower nobility. Usually owns only private estates like farms, breweries, markets and sometimes even mines. Most likely a rich merchant that became a noble through wealth) As we expand I will add more titles like Margraves, Landgraves, Barons etc. Once we become a kingdom I will give the titles of counts to other houses as well.

[rush99999]

I'm gonna post what I've done for my family history so far here and add to it as more ideas come. I'll then post the final draft in the RP itself*. *If it ever gets created that is.

Von Meron family history (Under construction)

Von Meron family history (Under construction): Wilhelm Von Meron I: The stories of many families usually begin with the founder performing a certain feat that impresses the right people enough to make them grant land to the family's founder. In the case of the Von Merons however, this is far from what happened. The year was 1239 and an ambitious leader of an infamous band of robbers and bandits set his sights on the prospect of robbing a noble family of something no other bandit in history had ever stolen: Land. The target was a disgraced noble house that was too poor to sustain a good military. Since no one liked that family, no one came to help when the bandits attacked the land and killed the family. But when the bandits declared dominion over the freshly ravaged lands, the more enterprising nobles underestimated the bandits and attacked, hoping to grab some land for themselves. These nobles were seen off by vicious guerrilla warriors and well organized defense. Soon enough the other nobles let the bandits keep the land and from that day forward, Wilhelm Von Meron and his successors became known as the bandit lords. Gustav Von Meron: After he rose to power, Wilhelm Von Meron pulled several women of the streets of his domain and made them into concubines*. Gustav, his 2 older brothers**, his twin sister***, and his younger bother**** were the children of Wilhelm and one of his concubines. In 1290, Ferdinand and Wilhelm II approached the now elderly Wilhelm Von Meron I and demanded some land of their own from their father. Wilhelm I responded by throwing axes into the skulls of his 2 eldest sons. Knowing that he would meet the same fate if he asked his father for land, Gustav instead poisoned his Wilhelm I. It is said that Wilhelm I's last words were "You've done me proud, Gustav. Unlike your older brothers. With the death of Wilhelm I, Gustav Von Meron became the new bandit lord. *This would become a tradition among the bandit lords. **Ferdinand and Wilhelm II. ***Eva. ****Claus. Heinrich Von Meron: Franz Von Meron: Larz Von Meron: Larz was a mad, incompetent, penniless fool who fervently believed himself possessed by The Devil. When he ascended to power after defeating his father in a fight to the death, Larz ruled for a full 5 minutes before Adolf Von Meron shot Larz in the throat with a crossbow. Adolf then proceeded to burn any historical document to do with Larz, since he considered his older sibling a disgrace to the Von Meron name and didn't deserve to be remembered. Larz died before he could have children, allowing Adolf to take over. Adolf Von Meron:

[Xilaw]

Have you ever played Stronghold series? Your family reminds me a lot of Pig haha

[gowia]

Hang on...who has what titles so far??? I just wanna know so I can think my families opinion of the other houses. EDIT: And I have played the Stronghold series and I can see what you mean!

[Xilaw]

Hang on...who has what titles so far??? I just wanna know so I can think my families opinion of the other houses. EDIT: And I have played the Stronghold series and I can see what you mean!

@gowia

Currently available titles are Duke-Count-Burgrave-Lord-Knight-Edler. Duke is off limits and Count is the title given to the head of the family. You can see if your family has the title of count by reading my family history*. As for other members of the family, they can be any of the other four titles as I've given the example of who can rule what in few posts above, so if you own a castle the family member that controls it can be Burgrave or a Lord, etc. You can also make some of your family members clerics. *hint: the families listed with count title are in the last few paragraphs. There's a total of four families with the title.

[gowia]

Hang on...who has what titles so far??? I just wanna know so I can think my families opinion of the other houses. EDIT: And I have played the Stronghold series and I can see what you mean!

@gowia

Currently available titles are Duke-Count-Burgrave-Lord-Knight-Edler. Duke is off limits and Count is the title given to the head of the family. You can see if your family has the title of count by reading my family history*. As for other members of the family, they can be any of the other four titles as I've given the example of who can rule what in few posts above, so if you own a castle the family member that controls it can be Burgrave or a Lord, etc. You can also make some of your family members clerics. *hint: the families listed with count title are in the last few paragraphs. There's a total of four families with the title.

@Xilaw

Ahhh found them all now, just had to check through who certain the Burgraves were.

[rush99999]

Have you ever played Stronghold series? Your family reminds me a lot of Pig haha

@Xilaw

I haven't played Stronghold series. Who's Pig? He sounds like an interesting character.

[Xilaw]

Hang on...who has what titles so far??? I just wanna know so I can think my families opinion of the other houses. EDIT: And I have played the Stronghold series and I can see what you mean!

@gowia

Currently available titles are Duke-Count-Burgrave-Lord-Knight-Edler. Duke is off limits and Count is the title given to the head of the family. You can see if your family has the title of count by reading my family history*. As for other members of the family, they can be any of the other four titles as I've given the example of who can rule what in few posts above, so if you own a castle the family member that controls it can be Burgrave or a Lord, etc. You can also make some of your family members clerics. *hint: the families listed with count title are in the last few paragraphs. There's a total of four families with the title.

@Xilaw

Ahhh found them all now, just had to check through who certain the Burgraves were.

@gowia

Basically powerful nobles that ruled from castles. They could own villages and mines as well, but only as secondary estates, besides the castle. Here's some more information on 'graves' or 'grafs' (counts) as they were called in German. There are several types: 1) Graf- basically a German title for a Count. 2) Landgraf- A bit higher than count but lower than duke. Usually awarded sizable land to govern over, most likely two or three counties. 3) Margraf- A bit higher than count, lower than Landgraf. They held bordering provinces and counties - marches, as they were called in the Holy Roman Empire and even Frankish Empire. 4) Burgrafs- Lower than Grafs, higher than barons. They were governors of castles and surrounding lands, but also deputies of Grafs (counts). I do plan to add number 2) and 3) and barons later on.

[gowia]

http://stronghold.wikia.com/wiki/The_Pig EDIT: And thanks for the clarification.

[Xilaw]

Have you ever played Stronghold series? Your family reminds me a lot of Pig haha

@Xilaw

I haven't played Stronghold series. Who's Pig? He sounds like an interesting character.

@rush99999

He's pretty much the kind of guy that would run your family. The game doesn't give out much information on him, but from animations I can see the guy could be a proud member of the house of von Meron. Here's a little something of Pig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8747v4va5k EDIT: I didn't know they made backgrounds for the characters, huh.

[gowia]

Yeah but you have to use the wiki to find most of them. I believe (Though I may be wrong) there are also some novels with a few of the games, very uncommon though.

[rush99999]

If Pig were a Von Meron, he wouldn't last a day. The Von Merons are nothing like pig, while they are as greedy as Pig, all Von Merons (Excluding Franz Von Meron) have fully functional brains, are relentless fighters the likes of which haunt the dreams of Norwegian berserkers, are master strategists, and most of all, they don't eat themselves into obesity.

[Xilaw]

If Pig were a Von Meron, he wouldn't last a day. The Von Merons are nothing like pig, while they are as greedy as Pig, all Von Merons (Excluding Franz Von Meron) have fully functional brains, are relentless fighters the likes of which haunt the dreams of Norwegian berserkers, are master strategists, and most of all, they don't eat themselves into obesity.

@rush99999

It was more of a similarity I noticed between how brutal they are rather than their mental capacity, but Larz falls in that category as well, I suppose? :D

[rush99999]

If Pig were a Von Meron, he wouldn't last a day. The Von Merons are nothing like pig, while they are as greedy as Pig, all Von Merons (Excluding Franz Von Meron) have fully functional brains, are relentless fighters the likes of which haunt the dreams of Norwegian berserkers, are master strategists, and most of all, they don't eat themselves into obesity.

@rush99999

It was more of a similarity I noticed between how brutal they are rather than their mental capacity, but Larz falls in that category as well, I suppose? :D

@Xilaw

On 2nd thought, Larz is much worse.

[gowia]

von Hoffendolt History

House von Hoffendolt, Paved in Gold

The History and Origins of the von Hoffendolt Family Siegfried von Hoffendolt (Originally Siegfried Friedmann): The von Hoffendolts pride themselves on their ability to organize and manage however even they struggle to fully recall the origins of their family. It is known for certain that in 1164 AD a man by the name of Siegfried Friedmann emigrated to the castle of Manburg, however on the road he was waylaid by bandits. It is from here that the information is hazy as it was passed down through story and not record. Left for dead with nothing but the torn rags the bandits covered his dignity with, it is said that Siegfried should have died out there however it just so happened that a caravan of Venetian traders were taking the same road as Siegfried. Vincenzo Ascuzzi, a minor trader, found Siegfried and immediately took him in, nursing his wounds and bringing him back up to full health during the route. Taking him to Hoffendolt, a growing town to the north of Manburg, Vincenzo informed Siegfried that he had a choice now. Continue to Manburg, in which case Vincenzo would wish the young man luck and a purse of gold, or he could stay with Vincenzo's company, learning the art of trade and a good living at the same time. It was an opportunity that Siegfried had been looking for and jumped at the chance. For a few years he travelled with Vincenzo, learning the art of trade as well as how to stimulate a market and manage a business. Finally, after Vincenzo had come to trust Siegfried, even naming him a partner (with a minimal share), Siegfried came to be the manager of the Hoffendolt counting house and associated assets. This is where he made his name, turning a growing town into the trading heart between a large part of Austria and the ports of Venice. Vincenzo was an older man than Siegfried and soon passed away, leaving the entire company to Siegfried. In one year Siegfried professionally shifted the focus of the company away from the Italian peninsula and into the German lands. Hoffendolt was his base and here he married and had three children, Karl, Maria and Christoff. Though he also had one illegitimate child with a mistress during his travels in Italy, Mario. Siegfried finally passed away in 1201 AD, having taken the name Hoffendolt to honer where his friend and mentor had brought him, as well as show his loyalty to a town that had given him his fortune. Karl von Hoffendolt (Part I): With Siegfried's death he left half of the business to his first born, Karl, born in 1179. Karl was his father's protege and the clear heir to the Hoffendolt enterprise. He was smart, cunning and had a better business acumen than his father ever did. Under Karl the von Hoffendolt fortune grew even further. Karl saw the promise in developing land, not just in goods trading, and bought up much of the field land outside of Hoffendolt, to build upon and then rent back to the people. Karl's siblings were happy to simply enjoy the life of having a quarter of the profits, as Siegfried left them each with a quarter of the business. Karl became a public figure in Hoffendolt as a response to his heavy investment in the town. Soon the people were calling for him to officially run for the local government, he had the funds to campaign and realistically he was a lot more effective in administration than anybody else pushing for local council. After a lot of pushing Karl eventually ran and, by a landslide, was brought in to manage the treasury of Hoffendolt. This was a full time job and so Karl relinquished twenty five percent of his shares of the business to is brother, Christoff. Christoff Hoffendolt: When Christoff took over the business in 1211 he was not too bad t maintaining the fortune, though he was no expert and it was certainly a period of stagnation. Which led to the 'Attack', a dark memory for the Hoffendolts, Mario Friedmann (As he is not allowed the name of von Hoffendolt) arrived from Italy and maneuvered his way into a hostile takeover of the von Hoffendolt business. Christoff was considered a fool and in 1219 challenged Mario to a duel, of all things, for his fifty percent of the business. Christoff was of course killed and it seemed Mario was going to attempt to force out Karl and Maria, taking the von Hoffendolt fortune for himself. Karl von Hoffendolt (Part II): With Christoff's demise Karl stepped down from public life, instead focusing his energies on the family business again. Mario was systematically buying up von Hoffendolt assets under a new business with himself as full owner. It would have been crippling had certain politicians Karl had befriended blocked many of the sales using foreign investment laws and regulations to hold up Mario so that Karl could introduce new policy to the business. After much maneuvering Mario was bankrupted through court case costs, as a result of infringing new 'regulations', he refused to appear for and Karl was able to recoup all of the von Hoffendolt assets. Continued his managing of the business, with seventy five percent of the company now, until his late death in 1231 AD. Karl never married and had no children the business passed it its entirety to Maria, who too was on her death bed. Maria had married and had one child, Rudolph. Rudolph von Hoffendolt: When his mother, Maria, passed away in 1232 Rudolph became the sole owner of the 'von Hoffendolt Trading Company'. Rudolph was a boy at heart, having only been born sixteen years earlier, in 1216. And decided that trading and business was not too his liking, instead he wanted to be a knight, like those that he had read about. Under the advisement of his uncle's, Karl, adviser he broke the business into several parts and sold them off to other companies in Hoffendolt. This left Rudolph with a fortune the size of a small countries, with this he had an ornate set of armor made, a beautiful long sword forged and a shield to go with it. Rudolph then traveled Austria, many expected him to play knight, be killed and then lose the von Hoffendolt name and fortune to history. However Rudolph was quite an adept fighter. He was able to use the money to higher some of the best fighting tutors and Rudolph served a minor lord the Italian-Austrian border. After a few years of service Rudolph was called upon to put down a small peasant revolt in the fort of Alleburg. A small force, taken from the lords retinue, led by Rudolph quickly moved across to the fort and put own the rebels with a quiet efficiency. The without being asked, Rudolph rebuilt the fort, reorganizing it's economy and setting a proper system to support the peasants, where the previous lord had just left everyone to their own business. Impressed by his abilities the Duke of Austria gifted Alleburg, on the condition he maintain it as a source of loyal levies. Rudolph accepted and finally settled down to look after the lands he now owned. He was a wise and fair Burgrave and many in Alleburg saw him as a change for good. The von Hoffendolt fortune had shrunk however it was still present and Rudolph had ensured the von Hoffendolts as landed gentry for years to come. Rudolph married the daughter of a local village elder and had two children. Siegfried II and Karl II. Rudolph passed in 1268. Siegfried von Hoffendolt II (Denounced as of 1274): Siegfried II was the eldest son of Rudolph and took on the Burgrave of Alleburg when his father passed. Siegfried II was much like his father, in the fact he loved the stories of knights, however this is where the similarity ended. He had no knowledge in running a fief. He dealt with the peasantry harshly and was seen as a tyrant by the local masses. This was only made worse by their adoration of his brother and in 1274 Siegfried II put the nail in his own coffin as he slaughtered half of the levies he was meant to send to the Duke of Austria because one man had mentioned his preference to Karl. The Duke of Austria declared Siegfried II a traitor and Karl II denounced him as no longer being a von Hoffendolt. Siegfried II was killed during battle when Karl was charged by the Duke to bring his brother to justice. Karl von Hoffendolt II: Karl was the youngest of Rudolph von Hoffendolt and the favored child by the courts. He was a kind and and fair, as well as ruthlessly efficient in matters of war and business. He was compared to being the best of 'Karl I and Rudolph'. When Siegfried II was made Burgrave Karl II felt no malice and instead attempted to restart the 'von Hoffendolt Trading Company' in Hoffendolt. However when news of his brother's madness arrived Karl II hurriedly halted his efforts and accepted the Duke's offer of bringing his brother to the sword. With a large force from the Duke he met his brother outside Alleburg and routed his forces easily. In truth Siegfried II had little, to no, support left and it was merely mopping up. In 1274 Karl II took the Burgrave of Alleburg from his brother and was even gifted the Burgrave of Rastenburg, for his loyalty and going above and beyond for the Duchy. Karl ushered in a generation of growth and happiness for the castle and fort. Karl II married his childhood sweetheart Katherine and had three children of his own. Rudolph II, Albert and Natascha. Karl II finally died in 1301.

[gowia]

And there is the history up until 1301, 2 or 3 more generations too go and then I will be done. Feedback is welcome.

[LordZell]

Well Here is the start of mine.

Von Bavaria

http://gyazo.com/484d2405f7034d151f4187a7be104af0 - Sigil Adolf I was the third child, Second son of Leon II Von Volksteg. Not much is known of this time but Adolf was most likely a Knight fighting in the crusaders and when he returned he was given a small County and Some loyal men. As he started a cadet branch of sorts they called him Conrad but he was Adolf I Von Bavaria to most. He had one son Adolf II. He had died of natural causes. Leon Von Bavaria Like his father he was cunning and administrative however he was also trained by his brother to be a fighter and could duel others easily. During his reign he ignored his Lord and continued to make a profit while paying some taxes. Should anyone have tried to challenge him his Brother would stab them through the heart. While most Bastards didn't get along Leon loved his older brother and was sad when he passed but he was given two nephews who he had trained to be some of the best fighters in the realm for his single son. Leon died in 1377. He had a single son born in 1360 Adolf II was very cunning and very administrative while he may not have been the most holy or strongest he could easily plot his own destiny if he so chose. However when the Civil War in Austria came about he sided with Fredrick and fought alongside Otto IV. It says he fought with but most likely was managing his estate and fairs while the RittenBergs were off fighting. When the War came to an end. Adolf was granted some land and towns. He easily removed the town mayors and mine leaders with people loyal to him and his family should the need arise. He also payed to buy out mines in other lands so he could sell the elements and make a hefty profit. Adolf II died 1338. He had 2 sons. A Bastard born in 1320. Who was very strong and fit and a trueborn 1322. Luke Von Bavaria Was not capable in any standards compared to the others of his family line but he had wealth and that gave him power. He was a coward and bullied by many nearly costing him his life,lands and money. Were it not for his son the family would have been destroyed. Luke died in 1390 under mysterious circumstances. He left a daughter born in 1370 and a son in 1375. Current head James Conrad James is much more cynical and is feared through his lands. He is cunning,wealthy and strong. Not to mention he married his sister off to Bavarians so he has a greater alliance in the HRE. He also has 2 loyal bodyguards at his side. Not much is known of James seeing as how he's always planning in his castle.

[Darkspleen]

Are you still accepting players?

[TwistedSun]

May I have some physical description of the county of Greinburg, please? It is needed for the Greiffon Household history :P

[Xilaw]

Are you still accepting players?

@Darkspleen

Yes! PS) I will take a quick shower and will give feedback and answer your question, Twisted.