[OOC] Colonial

[SirBeowulf]

Hello, I just want you all to know that I am not dead (But, I am sick). Also, hello SirBeowulf.

@Rare

[Dinh AaronMk]

And then I app'd myself and would like to see at least one more before we roll out IC.

[SirBeowulf]

And then I app'd myself and would like to see at least one more before we roll out IC.

@Dinh AaronMk

Your character.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Well I wanted to hold off for more time but it looks like additional apps are going to take a bit longer than I thought, so I'm going to say go ahead and post IC if ya'll want. Still open for apps if anyone's watching.

[Vilageidiotx]

And here we go!

[Dinh AaronMk]

And God bless you.

[SirBeowulf]

gog bles u gooby I might be able to toss out a post tomorrow, if you're not going first, Aaron.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I'll probably be me and jack off for a bit. I do got school work I need to do before Tuesday; though that shouldn't take me more than a day. I also have a post for another RP I need to work on. I consider my current obligations to this RP low since I posted the thread and started it up. I also usually don't panic if there hasn't been a post in a couple days. I may start shooting off PMs if there hasn't been anything in a week.

[Pepperm1nts]

As I made it known to Aaron over Steam, the timeline made me dun goof. I was almost done with my sheet when I realized most of it didn't match the timeline based on the history of Tirna-Sorset in the OP. My characters' ages didn't add up and it sort of ruined the whole thing. I am not the only one to goof, though. Vilage did too, and Googer (though he hasn't posted his sheet here yet). I'll get to fixing my sheet soon, but I am too tired to do it right now. When it's fixed, I'll post it.

[Vilageidiotx]

As I made it known to Aaron over Steam, the timeline made me dun goof. I was almost done with my sheet when I realized most of it didn't match the timeline based on the history of Tirna-Sorset in the OP. My characters' ages didn't add up and it sort of ruined the whole thing. I am not the only one to goof, though. Vilage did too, and Googer (though he hasn't posted his sheet here yet). I'll get to fixing my sheet soon, but I am too tired to do it right now. When it's fixed, I'll post it.

@Pepperm1nts

If we all made that mistake, I'd say the canon had been changed then. For the three of us to all read the OP the same way means the OP wasn't clear enough to uphold the distant date. The idea I was going on BTW was that the war started roughly twenty one years ago, and everything after that was a quick destabilizing succession. It's such a tiny detail. It destabilizes three apps, and therefore damages three storyline's. And having the war be a distant memory is less cool then having it all be a recent blur. And, more importantly, one of those apps were accepted, which seems to mean the changed timeline was accepted.

[Pepperm1nts]

I pointed out the same to Aaron. With the current timeline making the major events so distant, the RP becomes an RP of descendants of exiles rather than of the exiles themselves. Unless we choose to play very old characters (which so far no one is), we're basically limited to playing as the sons and daughters (at best) of Aenda's adversaries, instead of playing as the adversaries themselves which is what I thought the RP was about.

[Dinh AaronMk]

The war still ended ten years ago, not thirty-years ago; that's when it began. If you're still looking for "war traitor" character excuses then there's still the point those with associations to, or who became themselves potential political threats to Aenda would have still played a significant role in the conflict, were born at its beginning, and grew up in the setting of the war, if placed distantly from it. But "war traitors" are hardly the concern of the narrow view of Aenda's regime. The events of the war are merely more the catalyst for his rise to power in the civil war that shortly followed. Frankly, you and Vilage had the chance to read the history a good two-three times. Then again, I should have been more on the ball to catch and point out time discrepancies.

[Vilageidiotx]

If Googer, Hugs, and I all had the same wrong impression, I think it'd be fair to say it wasn't very well established. Is there anyway we can tweak this? If the war ended ten years ago, I kind of have to scrap everything I have, which would suck because that'd make the only post in the rp as of now obsolete. I can probably (grudgingly) get away with the war ending five years ago. But but a ten year change means that characters are in a different part of their lives.

[Pepperm1nts]

The most important thing should be ensuring our characters not only fit into the timeline, but are also connected to the events that led to the exile. That is what the RP seemed to be about, and what we all felt would be the driving force behind it all. I don't understand why you are willing to blow off three character sheets (of trusted players that you've relied on in the past for feedback, no less) just because you want to keep some unimportant detail where the war takes a character-breaking amount of time to end. So far, none of the characters would find it beneficial to their story/history/anything for the war to have lasted so long. Quite the opposite - just about every character right now would be destroyed by it. All because you are unwilling to own up to the fact that things were unclear, and change one minor detail that, as of now, would not negatively affect any character. It would, however, positively affect three. I would argue even the RP would benefit from the change, considering how many doors making the major events a relatively recent thing would open for our characters. Making it a thing of the distant past takes away from the theme of the RP itself. It should be recent enough that it's personal and people have memories of having participated in it in major ways. It chips away (no, hacks way) at the potential when you make this a story of people who just happen to be related to more interesting (and now dead) characters that participated in the events that lead to the exile in some significant way, instead of allowing some of those characters to actually exist in the roleplay and, among many things, offer an insight into what caused them to be exiled in the first place.

[Dinh AaronMk]

If Googer, Hugs, and I all had the same wrong impression, I think it'd be fair to say it wasn't very well established. Is there anyway we can tweak this? If the war ended ten years ago, I kind of have to scrap everything I have, which would suck because that'd make the only post in the rp as of now obsolete. I can probably (grudgingly) get away with the war ending five years ago. But but a ten year change means that characters are in a different part of their lives.

@Vilageidiotx

Aenda's Revolution could come to an end three to four years ago if it matters. But the matter of when the war started and for how long it went on is spelled on very strongly in the RP. It makes note of when - relative to the now - it happened at the beginning of the paragraph that sets off to establish the contemporary history of the old country. I could if anything adjust its length so there isn't a fifteen year gap between war's end and colonization where Aenda somewhere came to power.

[Vilageidiotx]

Well, the main storyline I am worried about is this: The nephew character, who is 21, is going to have been deployed with the navy in a foreign, India-esque place during the Bruge war. It would sort of be like Napoleon's campaign in Egypt (albeit a lot less involved), where they are mainly disrupting enemy trade and strong-arming the natives so that the area is politically and economically aligned with Tirna-Sorset. He would have only been there for a few years at the final stages of the war, but it would be important to his identity. I had been going with the idea that they stayed after the war and, when the rebellion, they were kept out of the loop. So the naval detachment in the south, including the nephew character, wouldn't have known about the rebellion until it was over. People with strong connections to the factions that rebelled, the nephew included in this number, would have been imprisoned and put through a trial process. The nephew and a couple of people who had served in the navy are sent into exile. To fix this to the a unchanged version of the original timeline would require a couple of things that complicate this. For one, the deployed navy being kept out of the loop for a long rebellion would stretch reality. This is annoying, and will open holes one way or another, but that isn't the biggest issue. To make everything work, i'd have to add fifteen years to his age, which not only puts him in a very different time of his life and completely weird out his character, but it also would put him at age with his aunt. This creates a problem, because the personal relationships between the family members are going to be part of the story, and him being at age with his aunt would change things too dramatically (not to mentioned we have to consider when Riordan would have been around to make babies). Which means I would have to age them all up. And that, really, would break everything I was planning on doing. I would need to make new plans by scrapping what I already have. There really isn't much of an argument for keeping the distant time frame. It's unwieldy and spreads recent events out rather thinly across the timeline. If you want some distance, it might be better to have the Bruge war start twenty five years ago and end five years ago. Five years for a rebellion and exile seems reasonable. Anything more... that is RP breaking.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I could probably bump the war into something within Thirty Years War territory. This may also mean Braendon gets to live longer, since his death was supposed to come near to the conflict's end.

[Vilageidiotx]

The war started thirty five years ago and ended five years ago? I'm perfectly fine with that. It also gives us some wiggle room for the details of the war, because any war that lasts that long changes quit a bit as it goes along.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Done.

[Vilageidiotx]

Done.

@Dinh AaronMk