[OOC] Fatal Souls

[Heat]

@Cerberov I like the idea that our kingdoms are allies yet relations are tense. Could lead to some fun in the IC.

[Cerberov]

@Cerberov I like the idea that our kingdoms are allies yet relations are tense. Could lead to some fun in the IC.

@Heat

That is the plan. After all, tense alliances leave open a bunch of solutions: war, political marriage, secession of land, shuffling of trading rights, etc.

God, now I want to play Europa Universalis again.

[Gowi]

I was thinking of going more for what Spain had in real life: a few of the duchies following absolute primogeniture, including the royal seat, with the majority following cognatic but having less of a problem with female heirs or regents.

Basically: Navarre ended up being the primary power, instead of Castile.

One thing to think of in-setting is Uterine Primogeniture, wherein line of succession is actually followed through female ancestry. Something that was used among the Picts, though they still typically picked kings.

Or you could go with gavelkind, but with the size of the kingdoms, that would get messy very quickly.

Also: Updated my sheet a bit.Still got a good ways to go, but it's taking shape.

@Cerberov

Gavelkind destroys kingdoms! Definitely the bane of my existence in Crusader Kings 2.

Though Uterine sounds a lot like absolute cognatic succession to me (females inherit on the same grounds as men). Sort of.

[Cerberov]

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Gavelkind destroys kingdoms! Definitely the bane of my existence in Crusader Kings 2.

Though Uterine sounds a lot like absolute cognatic succession to me (females inherit on the same grounds as men). Sort of.

@Gowi

Basically:
When a king dies during cognatic succession, the right passes to male children, then brothers, then any daughters or sisters. Uterine succession is more similar to agnatic: if a king dies, it goes through siblings, then to children, favoring the closest female ancestry. If a woman inherits, there'd be pressure to pass her claim off to a male heir, but she still has a legitimate claim. Cousins aren't even counted until the main line has been wiped out, and in-laws aren't even in the line of succession.

I got it completely wrong. If a king dies, the succession would be his sister's child, then his children, then a brother, then his sister.

Also, good job, Vahir. Considering how complex our character sheets are getting, a wiki's the next logical step.

[Vahir]

I have too much free time, apparently

[Gowi]

Not sure I particularly care for Wikia's formatting (wikidot is better, imo), though not being the one to pull this together is nice.

[Vahir]

Gowi and I are still hanging about the chatzy, btw. Feel free to ask us anything.

[Gowi]

I'll be working on some more information/sheets today.

EDIT:

Updates
Regions
Timeline
Lore Compendium

[Cerberov]

I've finally started giving some actual character to Rosalia, and at least named my council. More to come.

Update: now the members of my dynasty are fleshed out. All that's left are my vassals.

[Gowi]

I'm almost done with updating all of the region information and moving on to the other sections. Feel free to Q&A me at any time.

Also we have rules now.

[Lone Wanderer]

Interested, love the attention to detail you have here.
I plan on being a minor house in the Northern-lands, if you'll have me.

[Cerberov]

@Lone WandererThe demand is for major houses, but nothing's stopping you from being a minor noble house. I can't exactly speak for either GM, though.

[Gowi]

Interested, love the attention to detail you have here.
I plan on being a minor house in the Northern-lands, if you'll have me.

@Lone Wanderer

Definitely interested in Perhyr, as I imagine Dead would be in Skavia. How minor are you thinking? Duke, Jarl(Earl), etc? Who are you thinking about?

[HellHoundWoof]

VAGINAS

[Vahir]

Well, that's uncouth.

[Katabasis]

This RP looks like it's going to end up being something great. If it's anything like Tales of a Gilded Throne, which seems to be the case, I'm sure it'll be a blast.

If nobody minds, I'd like to reserve House Thralon of Euritia. Hopefully I can pull some interesting shenanigans with them. Is there any established lore on the region that you have planned or hasn't been posted yet, Gowi?

[Gowi]

This RP looks like it's going to end up being something great. If it's anything like Tales of a Gilded Throne, which seems to be the case, I'm sure it'll be a blast.

If nobody minds, I'd like to reserve House Thralon of Euritia. Hopefully I can pull some interesting shenanigans with them. Is there any established lore on the region that you have planned or hasn't been posted yet, Gowi?

@Katabasis

Talking to you about it in the chat right now, it seems. Thanks for the kind words though; it does however remind me to read this Gilded Throne RP at more depth than I have, though.

[Vahir]

This RP looks like it's going to end up being something great. If it's anything like Tales of a Gilded Throne, which seems to be the case, I'm sure it'll be a blast.

If nobody minds, I'd like to reserve House Thralon of Euritia. Hopefully I can pull some interesting shenanigans with them. Is there any established lore on the region that you have planned or hasn't been posted yet, Gowi?

@Katabasis

Well, I wrote up a lot of lore about our highlands here, but I need to rework it due to Gowi's cannon.

[Gowi]

Euritia

Lands
The peninsula of The Arm is not as rocky or rough as the western fringes of The Highlands; though it has strong riverbeds and flowing hills alongside slight existences of steel mountain ranges and waterside cliffs. The minerals are rich in these selective mountain ranges with mythrite, iron, tin, gold, silver, and copper; but the true abundance of the lands is likely the rolling hills that are perfect for agricultural development, plentiful fish and fauna, vast arrays of northern herbs, the forests ample for timberhouses, and the tactical basis of the landmass.

People
A true synthesis of two cultures—the people of what is known as The Arm are the cultural amalgamation of the people from the Midlands who occupied the land under imperial decree, and the native people of the Highlands who were initially abrasive of said occupation. However, unlike the western Highlands the locals took well to their foreign lords, perhaps due to the kindheartedness of the descendants of Torvic Thralon or other cultural factors; whatever the case may be the people of Euritian recognize both cultural roots as many can trace their lineage back to both the Midlands immigrants and the natives of the Highlands.

Military
Much like Terijas, Euritia is skilled in the art of war ranging from siege, archery, infantry, and cavalry—however northern horses are fewer in number than those in their ancestral lands, so the nobles of Euritia are stuck with a dilemma: import them, or adapt to a new sense of fighting. The latter was the choice one of the older Kings of Euritia decided upon as he switched from offensive cavalry to defensive troops in general to protect the peninsula of the Highlands they occupied—The Arm. Favoring strong walls and ranged units such as the Euritian crossbowman (a recent development), they have kept any more Highlander aggression invade the peninsula granted by Dierk ‘the Conqueror’ that had since become their livelihood.

[Lone Wanderer]

Very well, i'll play a great house.
I'd like to reserve House Crowe of Reinoa, assuming of course that it has not been reserved by someone else.