[OOC] (Night 3) A Murder in Salem [Mafia Party Game]

[Tancuras]

GM TIP: The triple dot is called an ellipsis.

[Mike73]

Well shit. This was exactly what I was afraid of. I knew the we should've had the doctor try to save someone else. And now Nightmare suspects me, which sucks. In my defense, I did vote for tabby to be lynched before it became a bandwagon vote. If I were mafia, I would've pushed more for a no-lynch at the very least. I don't believe Nightmare is mafia, so I can only look at either Zendre or Asuna. Zendre hasn't talked much but did try try to push for a no-lynch, while Asuna has been playing a mostly silent game. Tabby played a silent game as well and turned out to be a killer, so Asuna may be going for the same strategy.

So because of that, my suspicions are mostly on Asuna for now. I will make an IC post in a bit.

[Catlord]

Yeah I don't think night is a killer either atm. I mean it is possible that he pushed to kill tabby to make himself look more like a villager however at this point that would be a very risky move for a mafia to make, and I highly doubt a killer would go with that route this early on.

[Animus]

The doctor should reveal his role and lead the lynch.

Otherwise you risk allowing the Killer to influence the lynch too much since you have no idea who he is.

[Zendrelax]

But then what? Can the doctor protect his/herself? If they can, they certainly can't protect the villagers at the same time. And either they're left open to be killed, or they are effectively useless while the killer continues with their business. The Doctor revealing themselves makes them considerably less useful.

And I doubt the killer sided against tabby. The killer win condition is that killers outnumber villagers, and now they have to be the last one standing, which is considerably more difficult than the prior situation. And yes, I am aware that this partially implicates me, but if the villagers win, even if I die, then I would view it as a victory for myself.

[Animus]

But thats just how it works.

As the game is right now, if the doctor reveals himself, its a three way. A 33.33% chance of nabbing the killer while reducing the killer's ability to influence the kill.

If the doctor doesn't reveal himself and by chance the killer gets him tonight, we're left with a three way with no clears. Meaning all the killer has to do is convince one person to get the other and he wins. Thats a 33.33% chance of winning as well but this time the killer can do his sneaky shit.

[Mike73]

Yeah I don't think night is a killer either atm. I mean it is possible that he pushed to kill tabby to make himself look more like a villager however at this point that would be a very risky move for a mafia to make, and I highly doubt a killer would go with that route this early on.

@Catlord

I was thinking about that possibility as well, but like you said, it's very risky. If that was Nightmare's play though, then they made a great move since I don't really suspect them anymore at this point, since it just seems too counter-productive to do that so early in the game.

The doctor should reveal his role and lead the lynch.

Otherwise you risk allowing the Killer to influence the lynch too much since you have no idea who he is.

@Animus

How would we know if someone claiming to be the doctor is telling the truth though? Is the GM allowed to confirm it? Because otherwise the mafia could step up, say that they're the doctor, and lead the lynch to killing off another innocent. It would also make that person a target if they indeed were the doctor, since mafia would def want them gone.

But then what? Can the doctor protect his/herself? If they can, they certainly can't protect the villagers at the same time. And either they're left open to be killed, or they are effectively useless while the killer continues with their business. The Doctor revealing themselves makes them considerably less useful.

And I doubt the killer sided against tabby. The killer win condition is that killers outnumber villagers, and now they have to be the last one standing, which is considerably more difficult than the prior situation. And yes, I am aware that this partially implicates me, but if the villagers win, even if I die, then I would view it as a victory for myself.

@Zendrelax

Those are some other worries I had as well.

And I agree, I really doubt Nightmare is the killer and sided against a fellow mafia. Though, I don't think mafia has to outnumber the village if there's only one mafia member left. 1v1 counts as a mafia win as well, I think. Which, I'm just now realizing is a very possible outcome after this round. If we don't manage to lynch the killer and the doctor doesn't manage to save the killer's victim during the night phase, then we'll be left with one mafia and one villager and that means the mafia wins. I think. A little help here, @Tancuras

Still though, we really can't afford to screw up, this is potentially our last chance to catch the killer.

[Animus]

Uhm, then be happy.

If the killer decides to claim as Doctor, the real doctor comes out and says "hey, I'm the real doctor!" Its now a 50% chance. Likewise if the real doctor comes out and the killer says "hey, I'm the real doctor!", then its still a 50% chance...

[Mike73]

The lynch vote pretty much decides the game and who wins at that point then. Sure, we have a 50% chance at lynching the killer. But that also means we have a 50% chance of lynching the doctor, and if that happens then the killer can freely murder someone else during the night and make it a 1v1 and win.

Well, I guess it's a better plan than anything I could come up with though. Tbh I've been wrong about a lot of things so far during this game, so I'll trust your plan over my gut.

[NightmareInd]

I agree, if doctor reveals himself, chances drop drasticly for town to win. Also, I now also think Asuna is the killer.

[Tancuras]

@Mike73 Scum wins if they have an equal number to the villagers. I also can't confirm roles, what would be the fun in that? :P General strategy is that the killers would claim a power role in an effort to get the real PR lynched.

[Mike73]

Ah, ok, thanks for clearing that up. Though now I'll be even more wary if someone claims to be doctor...

[Catlord]

Guys, I have all the power roles all in one and can bring back someone from the dead.
...Oh wait I'm not Chuck Norris... Never mind....

[Tancuras]

Alright, deadline is here. Time to make your decision. Choose wisely.

@Asuna Yuuki
@Mike73
@NightmareInd
@Zendrelax

[Mike73]

Unless something happens or the doctor reveals themself, for now I vote to lynch Asuna's character, Ruby Sanchez.

[NightmareInd]

My vote is also on Asuna's character.

[Zendrelax]

I cast my vote thus: for the death of Asuna's chatacter, Ruby Sanchez.

[Zendrelax]

Whelp, we've been played. Unless the doctor guesses the victem right, this'll be a mafia win.

[NightmareInd]

On the bright side: She was not responding and she also wasn't the doc. On the bad side: Zendrelax is right :(

[Mike73]

Damn, we lost another villager. Maybe the doctor play Animus was talking about would've been a better move after all. Unless, the doctor manages to save the right person tonight, which will get us at least one more shot at lynching the correct person tomorrow. The doctor has a 1 in 3 shot of saving the right person, so I kind of do like our chances. It's not as good as Animus' proposed 50% chance...but it'll have to do.