[OOC] RPguild Ranked Tournement (Altered Tundra vs Vordak)

[AlteredTundra]

Having reread the post to be sure, I fully understand what you did. And while Vos does indeed have impressive feats -- some in which are a little scary -- I have doubts that he would be able to motion his body freely in such a way that you explained it while his equilibrium was disrupted. Mind you, the kick he delivered definitely did connect, but Alexis took that hit so that she could get Vos where she wanted him, which was towards the ground and in the pathway of an array of fireballs.

But yes, I too, would like to hear @Rilla's thought on the matter. Perhaps having a third party/vote would help us solve this and move forward in a positive way.

EDIt: Guess I was ninja'd. Perhaps it would be best suited for @Innue to help out.

[Vordak]

Having reread the post to be sure, I fully understand what you did. And while Vos does indeed have impressive feats -- some in which are a little scary -- I have doubts that he would be able to motion his body freely in such a way that you explained it while his equilibrium was disrupted. Mind you, the kick he delivered definitely did connect, but Alexis took that hit so that she could get Vos where she wanted him, which was towards the ground and in the pathway of an array of fireballs.

But yes, I too, would like to hear @Rilla's thought on the matter. Perhaps having a third party/vote would help us solve this and move forward in a positive way.

EDIt: Guess I was ninja'd. Perhaps it would be best suited for @Innue to help out.

@Altered Tundra

Hooking his shin around would give him a lot more control over his body, balancing out any disruption the spin would induce, and there is no fine motion involved until that point, him just pulling closer and continuing the forwards momentum of his kick by bending his leg.

But yes, i guess we should wait for some more opinions.

[Vordak]

as a tournament, it's up to Innue to make such things. However, as I'm on back up, I can. I'll check over the sheets and do the stuff tomorrow.

@Rilla

Judge plz!

[Rilla]

How fast did the grab take place? Never mind. Had he used his hands, to grab Alexis it would seem plausible to have done it quickly.

the spinning is described as lasting a minute in length, so he could have done it during that time, assuming he was able to get his bearings.

The issue here, I believe, is that both fighters are off the ground. I have yet to read the sheets, but without some type of ability/good lower or upper body strength, it would take a good bit of effort, and time, to pull closer using essentially just a knee/lower body.

[AlteredTundra]

How fast did the grab take place? Never mind. Had he used his hands, to grab Alexis it would seem plausible to have done it quickly.

the spinning is described as lasting a minute in length, so he could have done it during that time, assuming he was able to get his bearings.

The issue here, I believe, is that both fighters are off the ground. I have yet to read the sheets, but without some type of ability/good lower or upper body strength, it would take a good bit of effort, and time, to pull closer using essentially just a knee/lower body.

@Rilla

Whathad happened was when Vos went in for a mid-air kick to Alexis' gut/mid-section, she took the hit, but she also used the chance to hook that leg(mainly shin and knee area), and proceeded to spin around while holding said leg. Obviously from this, Vos would be spinning with her, getting dizzy in the process.

What I had happen in my attack portion of my post was have Alexis aim Vos towards the ground while not losing any of the speed or momentum she had gathered from spinning around. Added to that, she used her powers over fire(see Fighter Spirit for more info) and shot several fireballs down at him while he was still in the process of heading towards the ground. However, Vordak very sneakily made it so the attack I had made didn't happen.

So, I guess really what we want to be called is if Vos can do that based on what's in his sheet or not.

[Rilla]

what he did is commonly called an interrupt, which is as its name implies.

His sheet doesn't mention leg strength, which is what he used to do it, but does include burst strength, though I'm not sure what that is.

I'm inclined to think he can, maybe not quickly, but it also leaves him still mid-air, and if you're clever, at your mercy to do your own counter.

[Vordak]

what he did is commonly called an interrupt, which is as its name implies.

His sheet doesn't mention leg strength, which is what he used to do it, but does include burst strength, though I'm not sure what that is.

I'm inclined to think he can, maybe not quickly, but it also leaves him still mid-air, and if you're clever, at your mercy to do your own counter.

@Rilla

Burst strength is the ability to use as much of the muscle's power as possible in the shortest period of time. He has considerably more fast-twitch muscle than the ordinary fighter does, fatiguing faster than one would expect from a superhuman, but also being capable of very powerful muscle contractions. Basically, he will be trying to quickly overpower Alexis before the centrifugal force even gets strong enough.

[Rilla]

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Burst strength is the ability to use as much of the muscle's power as possible in the shortest period of time. He has considerably more fast-twitch muscle than the ordinary fighter does, fatiguing faster than one would expect from a superhuman, but also being capable of very powerful muscle contractions. Basically, he will be trying to quickly overpower Alexis before the centrifugal force even gets strong enough.

@Vordak

That would have been a helpful explanation to have.

So based on that, you probably can execute the move; though it puts you in a pretty compromising position.

[Vordak]

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That would have been a helpful explanation to have.

So based on that, you probably can execute the move; though it puts you in a pretty compromising position.

@Rilla

I find it to be one of the best i have at hand now, as Vos'stoorge's offensive capability overwhelms Alexis' in this situation. Certainly not too safe, but worth a try.

[Vordak]

@Innue

Waiting for your word on this matter.

[Innue]

@Innue

Waiting for your word on this matter.

@Vordak

I will do so tomorrow. I've been busy at work (after I understood your comment on the other thread).

[Innue]

Unless I am misunderstanding something from the posts, it seems that while Vordak's character would be capable of executing a motion like that, the speed and fluidity in which it is done is very much questionable (given her move surprised him). I definitely do not think it could be fully executed before he would start spinning which would make the balance of that difficult to execute as quickly and give her the ability to break free Vos's hold by sliding her arm out.

I'm actually very impressed with the quality of this match.

[Vordak]

Unless I am misunderstanding something from the posts, it seems that while Vordak's character would be capable of executing a motion like that, the speed and fluidity in which it is done is very much questionable (given her move surprised him). I definitely do not think it could be fully executed before he would start spinning which would make the balance of that difficult to execute as quickly and give her the ability to break free Vos's hold by sliding her arm out.

I'm actually very impressed with the quality of this match.

@Innue

While he may have been surprised, it is also implied in my post that he quickly knew how to react to such a situation thanks to his training and familiarity with magic, and taking in mind his pragmatic mindset (which can already be observed in a fight prior to the tournament, if you think i'm making this up on spot), he wouldn't waste any time once the solution has been found, making the confusion and delay minimal.

That being said, i am okay with Altered have the actions be less forceful and deft in his post than implied in mine.

[Innue]

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While he may have been surprised, it is also implied in my post that he quickly knew how to react to such a situation thanks to his training and familiarity with magic, and taking in mind his pragmatic mindset (which can already be observed in a fight prior to the tournament, if you think i'm making this up on spot), he wouldn't waste any time once the solution has been found, making the confusion and delay minimal.

That being said, i am okay with Altered have the actions be less forceful and deft in his post than implied in mine.

@Vordak

It's an unusual action being taken in a unique situation, so I wouldn't really stand by the fact it could be completed as quickly as you say.

But I think that works.

Honestly, strangest motion I've had to make a ruling on in awhile. Much kudos.

[Vordak]

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It's an unusual action being taken in a unique situation, so I wouldn't really stand by the fact it could be completed as quickly as you say.

But I think that works.

Honestly, strangest motion I've had to make a ruling on in awhile. Much kudos.

@Innue

Not that any real-world martial arts tell you how to deal with levitating women that are 2-3 times stronger than you are. I have to improvise. XD

[AlteredTundra]

@Vordak
I'll take that as a compliment. :D

[AlteredTundra]

I finally responded. I'm sorry it took so long,@Vordak. As for the post itself, I hope you don't find any problems with it. Of course, if you do, I will do my best to explain exactly what happened. :)

[Vordak]

I finally responded. I'm sorry it took so long,@Vordak. As for the post itself, I hope you don't find any problems with it. Of course, if you do, I will do my best to explain exactly what happened. :)

@Altered Tundra

The one problem i have with your post is that there still isn't anything to prevent Vos from striking - on the contrary, he would now strike no matter what, trying to subdue Alexis by any means possible, as he will expect that to disable her flame aura. It wouldn't be a surprise to him either - he had already seen her empower her fists with flame before.

So if i reply, i will just continue with my original course of action, having Vos try to either stab through her skull or rupture her spinal cord - nothing i hadn't already done in the previous one.

[AlteredTundra]

@VordakA good point. Okay, I edited my post with a defensive countermeasure for Alexis. If any problems still present itself, then I'll think of something else entirely.

[Vordak]

@VordakA good point. Okay, I edited my post with a defensive countermeasure for Alexis. If any problems still present itself, then I'll think of something else entirely.

@Altered Tundra

Yup, it's better now. Though i don't think you've specified anywhere how durable the flame aura is, and i'd be glad to know that.