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@Scarifar, Astarte's going to approach Ferghus with a couple requests during the Timeskip, alright? One of them ought to be fairly costly and the other is more of a vanity thing xD
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Eternal really fcked me up man. I wanted to write a post for one of my RPs but then I looked at my other open tabs and there it was, waiting for me to read all the other stories. Now it's been 2 hours and the only thing I've written for the post is the name of my char....

i hate you Kho.
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How strong can Primal Steel be at 20 Might?
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Dunno, considering they're not Gods of the Forge or even demigods of it, I assume strong enough to be somewhat better than average steel.
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Dunno, considering they're not Gods of the Forge or even demigods of it, I assume strong enough to be somewhat better than average steel.


That's grossly unfair. 5 Might Points is strong enough to be Damascus Steel.
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That's grossly unfair. 5 Might Points is strong enough to be Damascus Steel.


"this sort of steel could be made so sharp, durable and mighty that a full motion swing through castle walls would slash straight through"

Certainly not that strong, considering castle walls are thicker than the length of any sword.
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"this sort of steel could be made so sharp, durable and mighty that a full motion swing through castle walls would slash straight through"

Certainly not that strong, considering castle walls are thicker than the length of any sword.


Damascus Steel is extremely high grade steel. That's at 5 Might Points. . . now maybe a few swings can't cut through Castle Walls, but they could dig through a wall single handedly, I bet you.
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Damascus Steel is extremely high grade steel. That's at 5 Might Points. . . now maybe a few swings can't cut through Castle Walls, but they could dig through a wall single handedly, I bet you.


Considering Wi can bypass any sort of armor, do you think such a huge investment is useful? xD You'd be better off goign to Ferghus, he'd be able to create the steel you seek and imbue it with protective magical properties, I assure you.
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How strong can Primal Steel be at 20 Might?


It was 20 Khookies, not Might xP
As for Damascus Steel, I assure you, it could not cut through castle walls. It was just an extraordinarily hard steel, extremely durable and could be honed to a sharpness no other steel could.

I'd say that this 'Primal' Steel, as it cost 20 Khookies, would be a buffed up version of Damascus steel, plus some magical properties. Very hard, with wards protecting against all but mid-high level spells, can be sharpened to a very fine edge and it is likely that badly made blades would be cut or shatter upon contact with it. Armour made from it would be understandably of high quality, the wards would help against magic. It would fare better against firearms than normal armour did, but nothing like, for instance, kevlar.
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It was 20 Khookies, not Might xP
As for Damascus Steel, I assure you, it could not cut through castle walls. It was just an extraordinarily hard steel, extremely durable and could be honed to a sharpness no other steel could.

I'd say that this 'Primal' Steel, as it cost 20 Khookies, would be a buffed up version of Damascus steel, plus some magical properties. Very hard, with wards protecting against all but mid-high level spells, can be sharpened to a very fine edge and it is likely that badly made blades would be cut or shatter upon contact with it. Armour made from it would be understandably of high quality, the wards would help against magic. It would fare better against firearms than normal armour did, but nothing like, for instance, kevlar.


Ah. . .um, I'm changing the name of this steel then. But, to be fair, for 1500's and 1800's fire arms, I don't know if Kevlar is needed?
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Ah. . .um, I'm changing the name of this steel then. But, to be fair, for 1500's and 1800's fire arms, I don't know if Kevlar is needed?


Well, we won't be having 1500's grade firearms for a long time yet. Don't worry though, we'll eventually have our fantastical, impossibly hard metals (as any self-respecting fantasy world must). Any that are created at this point in time, however, must be exceedingly rare. Like, rarer than oxygen on the moon.
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Well, we won't be having 1500's grade firearms for a long time yet. Don't worry though, we'll eventually have our fantastical, impossibly hard metals (as any self-respecting fantasy world must). Any that are created at this point in time, however, must be exceedingly rare. Like, rarer than oxygen on the moon.


So non-existent?
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So non-existent?


Meh, not non-existent (was referring to Galbar's soon-to-be oxygen filled moon >.>), but any adamantium-level steels must be EXTREMELY scarce, possibly allowing for the creation of 3-5 weapons and accompanying suits of armour.
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I just don't want entire armies walking around in armours and weapons of legendary steel at this point in the game. Perhaps later, when we've got space-faring, galaxy-sweeping empires, having such high-level steels will be pretty much negated by uber-powered weapons, so it'll be fine.
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Ah. . .um, I'm changing the name of this steel then. But, to be fair, for 1500's and 1800's fire arms, I don't know if Kevlar is needed?


Those old-fashioned muskets were really powerful. Musket bullets would crush through your bones as opposed to just clip off them like modern bullets do. Not to mention that the old rifle rounds were also something like 0.70 caliber.

As in for Damascus steel, pretty sure that to our knowledge it was just steel with a slight vanadium impurity and a special forging process. Even today that alloy is used, and while it might be slightly superior it's really not that huge of an advantage.

So I think you're underestimating guns and overestimated metal armor. I mean no matter how hard metal armor is, its weight is prohibitive and blunt trauma will still kill you. Hell, slings were extremely effective against armored enemies and Ialu has Wi slingers than are probably more deadly than historical slingers.
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@Kho I see this from another perspective. What we are experiencing right now might be the Era of Magic. It's preferable as you say, to have technology slowly progress and eventually, overtake(?) magic as the dominant force. It will certainly be nice to see how this will play out in this RP.
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I mean no matter how hard metal armor is, its weight is prohibitive


Eh, full-plate armour was actually pretty light compared to the stuff everyday soldiery were trekking around in back in the day. You could easily roll around and even do back-flips (if you're acrobatic, of course) in full-plate armour.

@Kho I see this from another perspective. What we are experiencing right now might be the Era of Magic. It's preferable as you say, to have technology slowly progress and eventually, overtake(?) magic as the dominant force. It will certainly be nice to see how this will play out in this RP.


My thoughts exactly (or nearly exactly)
The way I see it playing out is something catastrophic happening and the Galbar entering something of a dark age, where both magical and mundane technology regress greatly, then things start developing once more. We'll probably have a more diverse number of nations given the greater size of the landmass now as compared with when it was just Arguilla.
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Those old-fashioned muskets were really powerful. Musket bullets would crush through your bones as opposed to just clip off them like modern bullets do. Not to mention that the old rifle rounds were also something like 0.70 caliber.

As in for Damascus steel, pretty sure that to our knowledge it was just steel with a slight vanadium impurity and a special forging process. Even today that alloy is used, and while it might be slightly superior it's really not that huge of an advantage.

So I think you're underestimating guns and overestimated metal armor. I mean no matter how hard metal armor is, its weight is prohibitive and blunt trauma will still kill you. Hell, slings were extremely effective against armored enemies and Ialu has Wi slingers than are probably more deadly than historical slingers.


Not really. If you're a super soldier with a very durable body, or one of these Fantasy races like Dunedain or a very strong orc from Middle Earth, which this world is very much alike to, it's probably an extremely good idea to have the best things you know how to fight extremely well with. The Japanese Era of the Sengoku Period wouldn't have necessarily been the same if they had weapons that Samurai and soldiers could withstand early era hand canons, let alone small arms.
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Have no idea what you're getting on to Act, but the point Cyclone was trying to make is that in real life firearms out-matched even the best armours.
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Have no idea what you're getting on to Act, but the point Cyclone was trying to make is that in real life firearms out-matched even the best armours.


What I'm getting at is that people in these Fairy Tales and Myths were re-enacting had superior bodies. In superior armors, fire arms aren't as effective against them.

Do I have another 5 Might points? I only used 6 of 11.
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