[OOC] Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay (Rebooted)

[Hael]

[Rtron]

*Smothers Hael*

[Kho]

*Watches smothering in awkward silence. Eats some popcorn. Crunches echo very awkwardly in the awkward silence.*

[Hael]

*wonders what, exactly, I'm being smothered with*
*decides it's better not to ask*

[Rtron]

*wonders what, exactly, I'm being smothered with*
*decides it's better not to ask*

@Hael

Good idea.

[LokiLeo789]

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Good idea.

@Rtron

0.0

[Lugubrious]

(A Far From Exhaustible) Technology/Ideas List, Just So We're All Aware of the Current Technological State of Things:

Hider

Self/Soul
Emotions – disgust, love, hate, fear, anger, joy, trust, anticipation, surprise, shame, pity, jealousy, pride, patience, confusion
Equality
Beauty
Boredom
Entertainment
Learning
Creativity
Chakra/Spiritual Energy Nodes
Magic
Knowledge
Epistemic Virtues – attentiveness, benevolence (Principle of Charity), coachability, circumspection, conscientiousness, creativity, curiosity, discernment, discretion, foresight, intellectual honesty, intellectual humility, imaginativeness, interpretive sensitivity, objectivity, parsimony (Occam's razor), perceptiveness, prudence/practical wisdom, studiousness, tenacity, truthfulness, understanding, warrant, wisdom
Empiricism – All knowledge stems from experience and evidence
Rationalism – Where criterion of the truth/knowledge is not sensory, but intellectual and deductive
Scepticism – It is not enough to have a belief, one must have good reason or justification for that belief. It is impossible to have good reason or justification.
Materialism – Matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and all phenomena, including mental phenomena and consciousness, are the result of material interactions.
Choice – Mentally making a decision: judging the merits of multiple options and selecting one or more of them.
Free Will – The ability of conscious agents to be free to make their own decisions , free of any social, moral or political constraints.
Society
Civic Virtue – A series of habits individuals have which are important to the welfare of society and put the welfare of society above the individual.
Friendliness – A pro-social set of behaviours seen in people who are pleasant, agreeable, interested in others, genial, empathetic, considerate, and helpful. Duelling in response to an intolerable insult has been considered a civil behaviour in many cultures, but it is not a friendly action.
Etiquette
Class and Class Consciousness
The Common Good – A specific "good" that is shared and beneficial for all or most members of a given community.
Universal Good – g
Utilitarianism – It is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong
Common Sense – Basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people, and can be reasonably expected of nearly all people without any need for debate
Morals – Conscience – An aptitude, faculty, intuition or judgment that assists in distinguishing right from wrong. Moral judgment may derive from values or norms (principles and rules). Conscience is often described as leading to feelings of remorse when a human commits actions that go against his/her moral values and to feelings of rectitude or integrity when actions conform to such norms.
Spirituality
Meditation
Enlightenment – Full comprehension, awakening to the truth
Debate and Discourse
Distrust/Xenophobia – Xeno = foreigner/enemy or insect
Duty – A term that conveys a sense of moral commitment or obligation to someone or something. Arises as result of being human; or one's particular place in life (one's family, one's country, one's job); or as a result of one's character; or as a result of one's own moral expectations for oneself
Home/Dwelling Place – Tents, caves, huts. Humans no longer sleep under tree, but have their own dwelling places. A place to call home. As human advance into societies, their dwelling places will become huts and villages. Later, these will become towns and cities, and huts will become houses, manors and even castles.
Fidelity and Loyalty
Identity
Justice & Injustice
Just War
Pacifism
Oppression

Stoicism

Claimed by Vowzra

A way of life aimed at leading one to happiness by achieving the truly ‘good’ things in life, what are called ‘Virtue’. The supreme ideal of Stoicism is a combination of ‘Wisdom’ or moral insight, ‘Courage’, ‘Self-Control’ and ‘Justice’ which includes upright dealing with other people. By following the supreme ideal and achieving it, a man becomes truly self-sufficient; that is, immune to suffering and bad fortune. ‘Virtue’ is a personal characteristic, not one bestowed by class or position: thus, even a slave who has achieved ‘Virtue’ is free, because no man, not even a king, can affect him.
Stoics believe in that, as all people live in a singular community under more or less similar conditions and restraints, all have a duty to live in conformity with the community. There are two main principles; 1) resigning oneself to Fate and; 2) living life according to nature’s laws.
Although resigning oneself to Fate seems to mean that one should not try to improve the future, this is not correct: stoics put a high value on public service, for instance, or striving to better oneself. In the case of stoicism, resigning oneself to Fate means that one should not set too high a value on cursory, transient thing. By avoiding a fixation on the unimportant, man can find true inner peace and unshakeable contentment that does not rely on possessions or fortune. By accepting that things come and go, this contentment and peace will withstand the obstacles of ambition, luxury, and—most importantly—greed.
As for living life according to nature’s laws, this can mean generally conforming to society, but is also deeper as a key tenet of stoicism is ‘questioning convention’. Living according to nature’s law are two-fold:

• Training oneself to live with only the bare necessities. A man should know how to live with just basic food, water, clothing, and shelter. “Set aside now and then a number of days during which you will be content with the plainest of food, and very little of it, and with rough, coarse clothing, and you will ask yourself: ‘Is this what one used to dread?’”
• Stoics insist on developing the gift of reason. One must perfect their sense of reason to conquer their devastating inner emotions: grief, pain, fear (of death, especially), and superstition. Reason allows one to escape from and discipline their passions, understand that ‘nothing is good or bad, only thinking makes it so,’ and to generally accept the mind as a greater source of truth than the body or emotions. Stoics are famous for their idea that ‘the shortest route to wealth is the contempt of wealth.’

Mercy – A broad term that refers to benevolence, forgiveness and kindness in a variety of contexts.
Names
Nation
Nature
War & Peace
Philosophy
Property
Ethics
Golden and Silver Rule – One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself; One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated.
Good & Evil
Fire
Stone tools
Fur Clothing
Mining
Logboat
String
Painting
Ceramics
Bone Flute
Animal Domestication
Sewing
Rope
Plant Domestication
Brick
Spindle
Metalworking
Salt Cultivation
Leather
Irrigation
Equestrianism
Weaving Loom
The Wheel
Spear and Javelin
Spear-throwing/Javelin-throwing
Boomerang
Club
Bow
Small Settlements
Wooden Walls
Sundial
Language
Alphabet/Writing
Reading
Mummification
Papyrus
Ard plough
Glass Making
Galley
Pottery
Bronze Forging
Plumbing
Abacus
Iron Smelting
Arch
Calendar
Mapmaking
Steel
Saddle
Aqueduct
Archimedes Screw
Crane
Watermill
Paper
Horseshoe
Sword
Chariot
Ram Bow (for galleys)
Incendiary Arrows
Crossbow
Catapult
Sarissa/Pike
Stirrup
Scorpio

If I have missed any, let me know. Adding this to OP

@Kho

Jealousy/Envy has been given to the outsiders in buckets. That's all for now, but I your list will be very useful.

[Rtron]

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Jealousy/Envy has been given to the outsiders in buckets. That's all for now, but I your list will be very useful.

@Lugubrious

@Kho Wait is that all stuff we have to teach the mortals?

Jesus. This RP is going to take a while to get in full swing. XD

[Hael]

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@Kho Wait is that all stuff we have to teach the mortals?

Jesus. This RP is going to take a while to get in full swing. XD

@Rtron

Ya, is that what they must be taught, or is it what they already know?

[Kho]

It is stuff they have yet to learn. Remember though, you can teach five of these to a species with 1 Freepoint, and then it will naturally spread (if it is a technology or an idea)
Things like emotions and magic will have to be taught to each species. So while the Outsiders feel ency and jealousy, that is not something humans yet feel.

[Frettzo]

kho y u reply b4 i ask questions u dam ninja

[Kho]

kho y u reply b4 i ask questions u dam ninja

@Frettzo

The more powerful ideas/technologies will require Might, but the generic ones can just be done using Free Points.
So Magic will require 1 Might, but emotions, society, swordsmanship etc. can be done together with 1 Free Point.

Edit: Vowzra powers B| I knoz all

[Hael]

It is stuff they have yet to learn. Remember though, you can teach five of these to a species with 1 Freepoint, and then it will naturally spread (if it is a technology or an idea)
Things like emotions and magic will have to be taught to each species. So while the Outsiders feel ency and jealousy, that is not something humans yet feel.

@Kho

So...what do humans feel? Are they just emotionless droids ?

No, no, don't teach the emotions. They will be perfect for a merciless, unsympathetic army...

[Kho]

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So...what do humans feel? Are they just emotionless droids ?

No, no, don't teach the emotions. They will be perfect for a merciless, unsympathetic army...

@Hael

Haha, of course they feel, but not in any advanced way. It's more of an Ug the Caveman feel, like:

Grass. Green. Hmm. Interesting.
Sky. Home. Hmm. Interesting.
Dyun. Bad. Hmm. Intere-
...
Drago-

[Kho]

I think I'll post and teach them some stuff, skirmishes with the other races and whatnot.

Oh, and Dragons.

[Hael]

I'll probably teach swimming, sailing, and a few other things.

[Kho]

Are you nearly done with that post or would it not make much difference if I get my post up before yours?

[Hael]

Are you nearly done with that post or would it not make much difference if I get my post up before yours?

@Kho

I don't think I'll need more than another hour, but I have a way of suddenly deciding to spend four more hours on the post "just for good measure".

If I were you, I'd just post it. If it interrupts anything in my post (I highly doubt it will, since I'll be doing my own thing), I'll work around it or see if we can get something worked out.

EDIT:
I'm gonna be messing up the pwetty fishes as well, by the way.

Just a foreshadowing of what's coming

[Kho]

What about you @Frettzo? Are you working on a post involving teaching the Humies something that I might want to wait and read before writing up my own?

[Frettzo]

As a rule of thumb, if Hael says his post will take somewhere from 1 to 8 hours, assume he actually means "My post will take 8 hours, bich"