[OOC] [Ranked] Four Way: Convergence of Power

[Rilla]

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'Blood Bending' isn't allowed in Arena, it would fall under direct character manipulation.

That would be ridiculously OP, my character could seize control of the water in an opponent's body and drown them from the inside within a twenty foot radius if such a thing was allowed, which is why it isn't.

@MelonHead

unless you managed to put some of Anna's body(insofar as what she originally starts with, and not what she adds later) in them.

then that's their fault.

manipulate it.

[GreivousKhan]

Also, on another topic. Divine magic is so rare that I usually give people a pass on it when facing my undead. Evil deity or not, you at least have rebuke undead, magic from any god is always effective in my book. Kind of makes it pointless if you get to specific with weakness.

"My character happens to be really weak against moon shaped blades, sorry, your sword is not curved enough."

That and Alicia's age and gender creates a nice moral dilemma for my PC. Granted that other part is Roleplay dependent. It will still make for good turmoil.

Side note side note- in regards to the wraith thing, looking at it, your water Wraith is extremely similar to my Sand Wraith. Right down on not running on magic but possessing supernatural abilities. The wording is even the same... The only differences of course being that they inhabited different elements and had opposite genders.

Interesting.

[GreivousKhan]

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unless you managed to put some of Anna's body(insofar as what she originally starts with, and not what she adds later) in them.

then that's their fault.

manipulate it.

@Rilla

It's also worth noting that blood bending is not necessarily against the rules. I remember the first WOT Tournament thing, I killed a vampire with the Sand Wraith that way.

I and Lyzan made a good unintended team combo.

[Skallagrim]

It will be an interesting series of fight.

[MelonHead]

I think the idea of supernatural forces possessing people is a fairly common fantasy trope, especially in regards to the element of the spirit or the way in which the person dies being a part of the finished products abilities.

Blood bending is almost definitely against the rules, it is almost completely unavoidable, far too specific and niche a defence is required to protect yourself from it.

Divine literally means 'having the nature of a deity' that's WAYYYYYY too general to be specifically powerful against a Wraith, where-as Holy is linked to spiritualism and combating 'evil' and essentially linked to the idea of 'God' in a Christian sense, who is the historical enemy of the Undead (Vampires being the spawn of Satan) and Demons (obvious) therefore I like to make sure my opponent has abilities bestowed upon them by a god of this sort before I accept it as -extra- powerful. If your powers come from a god of light for example then by all accounts they are 'holy' and deserve the bonus, if they use 'holy water' or some such its the same concept.

Honestly, I'm not sure why Holy Magic specifically is so under-used in Arena, I seem to be one of the only people who has recognised half the people you fight are evil spirits or undead or demon-vampire-werepoofs. Judgement and my Priest character and even Isaac the freaking Ghoul has anti-evil weaponry and spells.

[GreivousKhan]

Blood bending is almost definitely against the rules, it is almost completely unavoidable, far too specific and niche a defence is required to protect yourself from it.

@MelonHead

By that I mean you managing to get a medium into your opponent and thus effecting them through that. Like contaminating their blood for example. Kind of like what Rilla mentioned. So when is this going to start @Rilla?

Divine literally means 'having the nature of a deity' that's WAYYYYYY too general to be specifically powerful against a Wraith, where-as Holy is linked to spiritualism and combating 'evil' and essentially linked to the idea of 'God' in a Christian sense, who is the historical enemy of the Undead (Vampires being the spawn of Satan) and Demons (obvious) therefore I like to make sure my opponent has abilities bestowed upon them by a god of this sort before I accept it as -extra- powerful. If your powers come from a god of light for example then by all accounts they are 'holy' and deserve the bonus, if they use 'holy water' or some such its the same concept.

Honestly, I'm not sure why Holy Magic specifically is so under-used in Arena, I seem to be one of the only people who has recognised half the people you fight are evil spirits or undead or demon-vampire-werepoofs. Judgement and my Priest character and even Isaac the freaking Ghoul has anti-evil weaponry and spells.

@MelonHead

Sacred means revered due to sanctity, is in general the state of being holy (perceived by religious individuals as associated with divinity) or sacred (considered worthy of spiritual respect or devotion; or inspiring awe or reverence among believers).

[MelonHead]

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By that I mean you managing to get a medium into your opponent and thus effecting them through that. Like contaminating their blood for example. Kind of like what Rilla mentioned. So when is this going to start @Rilla?

@GreivousKhan

That's exactly what blood bending is though, you just seize control of their blood with your spells or supernatural powers.

Anyway, my character couldn't 'poison' someone with her water for example, as one of the weaknesses she works under is being unable to separate the water she is manipulating from her 'direct' spiritual connection to it, which would be required if it was inside someone's body.

Dunno what you're quoting, but holy only applies to the big G, which is my pet name for the Christian God, you can tell because it's a capitalised G. It's the difference between a god -of something- and The God, of everything. The only exception for me being a god specifically tuned towards life, because life fights unlife so to speak.

It's confusing, but it makes sense in my own head, so that's all that matters. It's ultimately up to me if your abstract magic gets to be super effective against my character.

[GreivousKhan]

Honestly, I'm not sure why Holy Magic specifically is so under-used in Arena, I seem to be one of the only people who has recognised half the people you fight are evil spirits or undead or demon-vampire-werepoofs. Judgement and my Priest character and even Isaac the freaking Ghoul has anti-evil weaponry and spells.

@MelonHead

Obvious.

Just think about how many people like anti-heroes over goody-toe shoes good guys like superman. (Skalla is the only person I know with a absurdly good hero character.)

Also, humans are naturally despicable creatures and relate more with bad guys generally. (cause their cooler, like Scorpion, Wolverine, Blade, etc or batman to the misguided)

[Rilla]

Once you ladies are all satisfied with each other's characters underwear

[MelonHead]

Once you ladies are all satisfied with each other's characters underwear

@Rilla

Well do you have any remarks on the super armour? I can deal with the huge abundance of other abilities, but armour that's effectively resistant to every sort of stabbing or cutting attack I can launch is going to be irritating.

I'd probably manoeuvre Anna away from him and send Kanitah's Daughter in instead, she'd probably punch the shit out of him fairly nicely.

[GreivousKhan]

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Well do you have any remarks on the super armour? I can deal with the huge abundance of other abilities, but armour that's effectively resistant to every sort of stabbing or cutting attack I can launch is going to be irritating.

@MelonHead

Oh no, you shall be forced to think outside the box...or hit where the armor is not... That is terrible. Also prepped attacks usually just go right through none-prepped armor.

[MelonHead]

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Oh no, you shall be forced to think outside the box...or hit where the armor is not... That is terrible.

@GreivousKhan

Dude that armour is like T7-8 (maybe earlier was a bit of an exaggeration, but not by much) at least. Look at the advancement humanity has made in armour construction, we've gone from a plate of mail to a Kevlar vest, which is more than five times as effective. That took like 1000 fucking years, imagine how far ahead technology is that's 50x Kevlar.

[Rilla]

I look at Khan's characters all the same, level bosses. Lots of abilities, resistances/immunities/guarded againsts.

I can check it out though, but he has to really define what the stuff is made out of and how strong it actually is... at base.Spider silk, by weight, is really strong - so his armor could be weak as two fucks, but written to sound really ... really strong.

[GreivousKhan]

I look at Khan's characters all the same, level bosses. Lots of abilities, resistances/immunities/guarded againsts.

I can check it out though, but he has to really define what the stuff is made out of and how strong it actually is... at base.Spider silk, by weight, is really strong - so his armor could be weak as two fucks, but written to sound really ... really strong.

@Rilla

Get to work you.

[Rilla]

But mommmmmm

[GreivousKhan]

But mommmmmm

@Rilla

Hmm, fine. It's actually 10x. At least you have better whining.

[LeeRoy]

This thread is guaranteed arguments, and its great

[Rilla]

But seriously, about that armor - how strong is it? Can it resist all that Kevlar can x 50, at base, or is that something it has to be built up too? I understand armor offers some base resistance otherwise it would be useless, so what is the base it can do? Also, how does it disperse everything out over a wider area to reduce the damage, and if it is not Kevlar, but Kevlar was used as an example, how does it stop piercing attacks when they could slip between the cracks? It stands to reason armor like that would fair better against blunt trauma and be worse off against piercing attacks, and fairly neutral to cutting attacks.

[GreivousKhan]

That is how Melon made it through the entire second tournament.

[Skallagrim]

The armor isn't that strong. It spreads the kinetic force out. But it does not stop a concentrated attack. Since he likens it to kevlar a directed, focused attack will pretty much negate the armor.

Every other character can overcome the armor relatively easily.