[OOC] ~Gakuen Kill: Academy of Assassins~

[Spriggs27]

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Oh, my dear Spriggs, you misunderstand. My hatred for that futa piece of shit graphically well-fleshed out character is not a reflection on you as either a person or an RPer, but a general hatred of self entitled little twats evil characters like her fictional self.

But now I have to hate Donna. Apologies.

:P

EDIT: My personal tastes will not filter into the RP. Fear not.

@White Feather

See, Shes not like Alice any any way besides the fact she will cheat in a fight and looks like the...woman, but Doughnut isn't Alice, Donna is Donna, shes Alice and Dana's child and will always be that, she has the characteristics of Dana and the appearance of Alice, the only reason Alice was the way she was is because of her unique gender, she wanted to see Lucifer be manly really and told him to be several times and saw him as girly.

Doughnut on the other hand is like Dana in many ways, but also a mixed with being sorta heavy handed, Also shes jobless at the moment and Sayaka could get her to do a couple jobs for 25 yen, but on real terms Donna is better than Alice, and like my homie Windel said hating the child is low, it's like if KoL hated Anubis's child if he had one, or Windel hating our favorite crazy blonde assassin's child if she had a child. it's wrong to hate a person's kid without much reason beside you hate the parent, and in my opinion Doughnut is better than Alice in many forms.

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Im gonna see the martian with my friends! Will make a post afterwards

[White Feather]

@Spriggs27 @TheWindel

As Adam Monroe famously said "Parents Sin, Children Suffer". She has Alice in her. I therefore despise every part of her that is Alice. 50% of her, to me, is unforgivably tainted.

Simply dying isn't enough for revenge. They have to suffer. But you can't suffer when you're dead. Don't you see? But now there is someone to suffer. You want to know who? The murderer's daughter...

[TheWendil]

@Spriggs27 @TheWindel

As Adam Monroe famously said "Parents Sin, Children Suffer". She has Alice in her. I therefore despise every part of her that is Alice. 50% of her, to me, is unforgivably tainted.

Simply dying isn't enough for revenge. They have to suffer. But you can't suffer when you're dead. Don't you see? But now there is someone to suffer. You want to know who? The murderer's daughter...

@White Feather

Hmm. While that does make sense, that's still mindless hatred and not enough justification to loathe someone that has done nothing towards you.

[White Feather]

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Hmm. While that does make sense, that's still mindless hatred and not enough justification to loathe someone that has done nothing towards you.

@TheWindel

All hatred is mindless. There are lots of people I loathe who never affected me - history is full of them. I don't hate them any less.

[TheWendil]

All hatred is mindless. There are lots of people I loathe who never affected me - history is full of them. I don't hate them any less.

@White Feather

Well then. As long as Luci doesn't do anything to spite Donna for the sheer fun of it, it should be fine. Because regardless of your personal mentality, these are fictional characters doing fictional actions. Despising someone because of something that is not in their control is pointless and redundant, but to each their own.

[Mcmolly]

There are so many flaws with the "Sins of our fathers" mentality lol

[Spriggs27]

@White Feather

W.F, Revenge is a path of blood that get your friends killed and leaves you a brooding mess at the end of it all, I'm not saying you don't have any right for getting revenge for what happened to you, I'm not even saying that you shouldn't hate someone or a fictional character, but if you want someone to hate then it's Alice, not Donna, you shouldn't put your hate onto someone else because they share blood.

[White Feather]

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Well then. As long as Luci doesn't do anything to spite Donna for the sheer fun of it, it should be fine. Because regardless of your personal mentality, these are fictional characters doing fictional actions. Despising someone because of something that is not in their control is pointless and redundant, but to each their own.

@TheWindel

Trust me. That would go against Lucifer's whole 'unambigous good guy' theme.

There are so many flaws with the "Sins of our fathers" mentality lol

@Mcmolly

Hey, if God is allowed to punish every human because of two people's mistake, I can do the same.

@White Feather

W.F, Revenge is a path of blood that get your friends killed and leaves you a brooding mess at the end of it all, I'm not saying you don't have any right for getting revenge for what happened to you, I'm not even saying that you shouldn't hate someone or a fictional character, but if you want someone to hate then it's Alice, not Donna, you shouldn't put your hate onto someone else because they share blood.

@Spriggs27

Blood passes on. Children inherit their parents' traits. I reserve the right to remain apprehensive of people with bad parents in case it's in the blood. And all things considered, Dana was no saint either. She wasn't Alice bad, god no, but she wasn't someone you'd care to meet in a dark alley on your own

[Mcmolly]

@White Feather
Hey man absolutely, I'm just saying it's a widely-regarded faulty system often associated with tyrant-style behavior. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy kinda deal, you punish the children for their parents who in turn punish your children for theirs. Revenge as a concept in general is a pretty tricky moral subject, but it's still pretty clear to see "good" and "wow what" when you observe it.

But hey, just my two cents. Two cents never made anyone rich lol

[White Feather]

@White Feather
Hey man absolutely, I'm just saying it's a widely-regarded faulty system often associated with tyrant-style behavior. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy kinda deal, you punish the children for their parents who in turn punish your children for theirs. Revenge as a concept in general is a pretty tricky moral subject, but it's still pretty clear to see "good" and "wow what" when you observe it.

But hey, just my two cents. Two cents never made anyone rich lol

@Mcmolly

On the contrary. If you do revenge correctly, no-one remains to take revenge - adult or child. It's Machiavellian, yes, but also very pragmatic.

But thanks for your two cents. We use Pence here, but what the hell... XP

[Mcmolly]

@White Feather
Yeah but right there is the "wow what" part of the problem. Adult or child, enacting revenge on an objectively innocent party by association is where the moral gray line seems to get a bit clearer, if you know what I mean?

[Spriggs27]

@White Feather

I agree blood passes on, and I guess I gotta use more examples to get you to understand something. Let's say this, there is a child with a parent that abuses them and over time even tries to kill or get rid of the child, wouldn't you hate the parent ? But the child grows up to be possibly the best humanitarian on the planet, would you hate them ?

Let's use another example, Child grows up with a nice family possibly the best people you could ever meet, but the child then grows up to be a shit head or just a psychopath, do you hate the parents for their shit head kid ? or do you hate the kid.

Or what if a child was abused by their parents and grown up to be a timid person who can't talk to others or couldn't have a proper conversation with someone because of their parents, would you hate them ?

What I'm trying to tell you is Don't hate another person's character because they are related to another person, hate the character that caused you to hate them, it would be like me liking DSP when he's not playing a game, but then turning around and hating him for playing my favorite game, and Windel I didn't mean to bring up DSP it's just another vid of him playing some old game got into my inbox again.

I don't care what kind of beef you have with Alice, I know you don't like her, but don't have your char come at Doughnut without proper reasoning.

[White Feather]

@White Feather

I agree blood passes on, and I guess I gotta use more examples to get you to understand something. Let's say this, there is a child with a parent that abuses them and over time even tries to kill or get rid of the child, wouldn't you hate the parent ? But the child grows up to be possibly the best humanitarian on the planet, would you hate them ?

Let's use another example, Child grows up with a nice family possibly the best people you could ever meet, but the child then grows up to be a shit head or just a psychopath, do you hate the parents for their shit head kid ? or do you hate the kid.

What I'm trying to tell you is Don't hate another person's character because they are related to another person, hate the character that caused you to hate them, it would be like me liking DSP when he's not playing a game, but then turning around and hating him for playing my favorite game, and Windel I didn't mean to bring up DSP it's just another vid of him playing some old game got into my inbox again.

I don't care what kind of beef you have with Alice, I know you don't like her, but don't have your char come at Doughnut without proper reasoning.

@Spriggs27

Really, I shouldn't hate anyone. And I wouldn't hate a good child as much as I hate their bad parents. But I do still hate, and I will still dislike the child.

All of this is personal opinion. Lucifer is not W.F. Luci doesn't know the things I know. And chances are, Doughnut and Luci's paths will not cross, or cross sparingly. W.F. will continue to despair of Donna, but Lucifer won't. Fear not. This is what I meant when I said 'My personal opinion won't filter into the RP'

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@White Feather
Yeah but right there is the "wow what" part of the problem. Adult or child, enacting revenge on an objectively innocent party by association is where the moral gray line seems to get a bit clearer, if you know what I mean?

@Mcmolly

I'd see that as the guilty person's fault. It's covering one's tracks. Moral ambiguity won't hold a candle to practicality. Sometimes, things need to be done that are horrendous and disgusting and no-one should ever have to do or be put through. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is. Sometimes, we have to bury the good guy to let the monster come to the fore, for our own sake. Morality is for those fortunate never to have come into a situation where one must choose between morals and practicality.

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And if I seem like a depressing shit, I just finished Spec Ops: The Line today. I'm not exactly in the happiest of moods...

[KoL]

@White Feather@Spriggs27@Mcmolly@TheWindel

Huh... guys, what's the point of this discussion, again? If I remember well, said episode involving Alice and Lucifer didn't even happened on this RP world, so... why is that?

[Mcmolly]

@White Feather
I mean I dunno, I feel like applying extremes like that as a blanket mentality does way more harm than good. Targeting someone who is merely similar or related to the person who is actually the target of your frustration/anger/what have you isn't "moral ambiguity". It's more like a failure to properly connect emotional ties, which isn't so much a morality thing as it is a psychological thing. The idea that "sometimes bad things need to be done" is a pretty common excuse used for horrific acts that generally result in no objectively good outcomes, but instead fulfill a selfish desire under the guise of something objectively good.

And lol I feel ya man, that game will fuck you up.

@KoL I dunno, sometimes a little discussion is healthy and fun!

[White Feather]

@White Feather@Spriggs27@Mcmolly@TheWindel

Huh... guys, what's the point of this discussion, again? If I remember well, said episode involving Alice and Lucifer didn't even happened on this RP world, so... why is that?

@KoL

I'm just going through an existential crisis. I'll feel better when I've had some coffee and got a post up. Probably shouldn't take much of this seriously, my parts anyway.

[Spriggs27]

@White Feather

Play happier games, like Onechanbara or Dbz or GTA, don't play Bloodborne that will fuck you up even more if you follow the side stories.

[White Feather]

On a happier note, I wonder if @Kimiyosis's Sasha knows that in Lucifer's culture, boys and girls aren't allowed to touch each other.
If he told her that, would she tease him more or less?

[Kimiyosis]

On a happier note, I wonder if @Kimiyosis's Sasha knows that in Lucifer's culture, boys and girls aren't allowed to touch each other.
If he told her that, would she tease him more or less?

@White Feather

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