[OOC] NoW: LeeRoy vs. Melonhead Rnd 2.

[LeeRoy]

I had to do some research before I started writing up my post, damn I hate science and magic at the same time sometimes.

It'll be an hour before I can post though, busy at the moment.

[MelonHead]

No problem, pretty sick so I'll probably go to bed, you've got up to 12 hours before I'm liking to be replying.

[LeeRoy]

Yo there's a hurricane coming and I might not be able to post for a few more days, I'll tell you if I can.
@MelonHead
@Skallagrim

[Skallagrim]

You should be fine. It will be a tropical storm soon and unless it makes land, still iffy on the model track, you will be okay. Later today/ tonight or early Friday the models will track more accurately where the storm is heading.

[MelonHead]

Yo there's a hurricane coming and I might not be able to post for a few more days, I'll tell you if I can.
@MelonHead
@Skallagrim

@LeeRoy

Fucking love England for reasons like this.

[Skallagrim]

I don't see LeeRoy having posting issues until Sunday.

[LeeRoy]

@Skallagrim I have no idea what you're talking about, because apparently it has been upgraded to a category 4.

[Skallagrim]

Yes @LeeRoy it is, it is also in the Bahamas and weather models are having it pull away from hitting the east coast. If these models are correct then it becomes rains and flooding along the coast. There are models where it will lessen in the next 48-72 hours if it does pull away.

[MelonHead]

I dunno, you might want Skallagrim's opinion on this one if you feel I short changed your attack, I just think it was somewhat poorly placed and my post reflected that. I'd have personally struck for the neck or something, which would have probably fucked Metz over as you correctly noted he wasn't really in a position to avoid any attacks, his leap was an all or nothing surprise strike.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead I feel as though the armor bowing inwards as it was struck with the combination of his own momentum and Shin's fist would have the same effect on Metz as the punch alone. Because with all the added weight behind everything, the armor is more of a hindrance than it is an advantage. Though I will call Skallagrim on this one, I'm not totally sure myself.

Mostly because the armor is poorly constructed and wouldn't hold up as well as quality armor.

@Skallagrim

[Skallagrim]

The armour is not poorly constructed. The real protection is the underlayer which spreads out kinetic energy. That being said could Shin break Metz' sternum? Maybe, maybe not. I suspect the blow most probably hurt. Possibly cracking or fracturing ribs. I leave that to Melon.

The real issue the entanglement that follows. (On my phone since I am out. I will continue with an edit once I reread actions)

Metz has a knife, he collided with Shin's fist. While the blow hurts it will not stop Metz from stabbing Shin. (Will do more getting ready to eat lunch)

[LeeRoy]

@Skallagrim Take yer time, I'm watching Star Wars anyway.

Edit: That's a lie, I'm waiting for the video to buffer so it doesn't stutter while I watch it. I am instead listening to Allegri.

[MelonHead]

I figure if the underpadding can stop a 9mm round this punch is unlikely to be able to actually break Metz bones, as it's specifically designed to disperse impacts. Plus I can't help but feel that in terms of durability someone's entire chest would overcome someone's arm in this situation, if it were locked I'd assume your arm would probably outright snap. With the mass and momentum arguably on his side Metz is going to be able to power through.

It has knocked the wind out of Metz, and it might have bruised him pretty badly, but as Skallagrim noted it doesn't actually stop him from being able to use his knife.

We'll see anywho.

[LeeRoy]

Meh, with the current information I'm good to go. I'll post in a second.

[MelonHead]

Same before, if there's any issues don't worry about contacting Skallagrim, we're dealing with mostly unknowns so it's up to him to mediate. I wasn't wholly convinced that after plunging his knife in Shin Metz was going to then go flying past him, as that was his final goal, as opposed to a tackle or something.

[LeeRoy]

I've posted, but going from expecting to land on top of someone (And in fact, not expecting anything OTHER than landing on top of them. Even going as far to prepare for the coming entanglement on the ground.) to not landing on top of that person doesn't put you in any sort of position to catch yourself.

Just saying.

[MelonHead]

I've posted, but going from expecting to land on top of someone (And in fact, not expecting anything OTHER than landing on top of them. Even going as far to prepare for the coming entanglement on the ground.) to not landing on top of that person doesn't put you in any sort of position to catch yourself.

Just saying.

@LeeRoy

Well my posts were made on the assumption of Shin being dragged towards Metz and Shin coming forward to punch him respectfully. I failed to see how it made sense for Shin to try what's essentially a judo throw after already negating a lot of Metz momentum and taking the knife to the shoulder. Ultimately the only scenario that then made sense was for Metz momentum to be spent otherwise there was really no logical way Shin could avoid being tackled to the ground. The knife in the shoulder already dictated he had left it too late to super dodge. So I worked with the scenario you wrote.

[LeeRoy]

Shin didn't THROW anyone, he sidestepped him. There was no "super dodge" Shin moved his body out of the way of Metz' body, arms move freely to the body and an extended arm with a knife does not mean that the rest of your body is immediately behind it. So unless your hands are directly connected to your shoulders and you stab someone in the shoulder, them moving the rest of their body out of the way is entirely feasible.

That's why the knife would have either slipped out of his hand or came wrenching out, because the rest of his body moves freely from his hands.

Edit: Also, how would he be dragged towards Metz? He let go of the chain.

[Skallagrim]

Hmm . . . Metz stabs Shins shoulder, simultaneously Shin steps back, allowing Metz to fall past him. Metz pulls knife out of Shin due to momentum and Shins movement. You are seperated because of this, Metz stabby-stabby again, misses because of Shins action. What am I looking for exactly?

[LeeRoy]

It's just a disagreement on whether or not Metz should or should not have faceplanted because he shouldn't have been expecting to not land on top of Shin. It doesn't matter either way as I've already posted a reply, but it's still a disagreement.