[OOC] NoW: LeeRoy vs. Melonhead Rnd 2.

[MelonHead]

It's just a disagreement on whether or not Metz should or should not have faceplanted because he shouldn't have been expecting to not land on top of Shin. It doesn't matter either way as I've already posted a reply, but it's still a disagreement.

@LeeRoy

Like I said I don't really see how it's fair to expect my character to fall over just because your character moved after the knife blow had already landed. That was his end goal. Now if you had tried to sidestep Metz rather than punching him I'd understand but you didn't so this is what happened for the situation to make logical sense. Ultimately Shin should have been bowled over there is really no way he could have moved out the way in time considering the type of strike Metz used meant his body would pretty much be in contact with shins as he struck. Still we're at neutral ground so whatever.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead It's also unfair to assume that someone who can't weigh more than 250 lbs, only 500 lbs in this gravity, would be capable of toppling someone who can lift 1000 lbs. Especially considering he was expecting him to collide with him.

Shin's not some weak ass pushover who doesn't know his own strength, Shin's a master of the human body unlike any who have come before. Expecting him to fall over because someone threw themselves at him is nonsense.

If I had wanted to end this immediately, Shin would have just caught Metz by the neck as he fell. With both hands thrust upwards into his neck, his windpipe would have been crushed and then Shin would have strangled him to death on the spot. And even with a knife and enhanced strength, with no blood or air going to his brain it would have been game over.

But I wanted this to be fun, so instead, Shin punched Metz in the chest and then used the energy from Metz' weight on his arm to turn on his heel.

There is nothing unreasonable about what happened, and I really don't see where you're getting your complaint from.

Now, can we carry on without arguing? It's a damn shame that we argue so much, holy shit.

[MelonHead]

Right.

Well, continue whenever you're ready.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead I posted.

[MelonHead]

Pretty sure Metz launched that weapon into the lake because your character abandoned it, but whatever.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead I counter that point with, Metz never actually let go of the chain. Nor did he ever holster his gun. He just sort of threw his gun away, which I still don't understand.

[MelonHead]

‘Metz had no sooner shot with his pistol than with a nonchalant flick thrown it over his right shoulder, causing it to arc gracefully in the air.’

‘Shin evidently had a lot of confidence as he abandoned his weapon to the water, allowing Metz to straighten up as he jumped.’

'His left arm no longer low he could turn his right shoulder in the air to prepare the knife lunge.'

Also, Metz gun is -definitely- in the water, but whatever.

'If only Shin knew how hilariously lucky he was that he started moving again.'

Quite. Although with absolutely no time scale to work with Metz might have just completed his spell long before your character remembered the firearm, it's fortunate he happened to move in the exact moment Metz started casting, despite remaining stationary for what I can only assume was up to half a minute.

[LeeRoy]

I still see no point at which Metz let go of the weapon, it may have gone in the water but it sure wasn't launched. And unless he HURLED the gun with all of his might over his shoulder it wouldn't wind up very far into the water. And as your post said, Metz only flicked it over his shoulder. As in, just a little more force than dropping it over his shoulder.

Also your timescale's a little off there. Half a minute? What?

I really don't know why you're are so mad right now, you have been OOZING anger and sarcasm for the past few posts.

[MelonHead]

I still see no point at which Metz let go of the weapon, it may have gone in the water but it sure wasn't launched. And unless he HURLED the gun with all of his might over his shoulder it wouldn't wind up very far into the water. And as your post said, Metz only flicked it over his shoulder. As in, just a little more force than dropping it over his shoulder.

Also your timescale's a little off there. Half a minute? What?

I really don't know why you're are so mad right now, you have been OOZING anger and sarcasm for the past few posts.

@LeeRoy

Absolutely oozing anger, maybe sarcasm, never anger. Metz let go of his weapon because I figured the fight would be too easy with it.

Metz letting go of the chain after it fell into the water is heavily implied.

Have the gun if you wish, I never bothered to clarify it was going in the water, if you need it go for it, though it's already turned against you. Never can trust someone else's weapons.

[Skallagrim]

The secret to Melon, he gets in your head.

[LeeRoy]

@Skallagrim
I 'unno, I'm not mad. I'm just tryna have a good time and Melon's getting really upset about. . .Well everything.

[MelonHead]

@Skallagrim
I 'unno, I'm not mad. I'm just tryna have a good time and Melon's getting really upset about. . .Well everything.

@LeeRoy

Well, you'll never really know, though you did go into a tirade about how you weren't even trying and how you could have ended the fight easily earlier, so the evidence is mounting that you're at least slightly vexed. If you backtrack I'm really just pointing out minor inconsistencies for future reference, other than my querying of your assumption that my character has to fall over. I haven't actually had to call Skallagrim up for anything yet, which is what I would do immediately if something had genuinely annoyed me or broken that unwritten rule of logic in Arena.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead
I got upset because I chose to keep this going so that this could be fun, but instead you got pissy about not dying. And then you went out of your way to make it literally the most boring fight I've ever had.

My post will be up in about an hour.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead I posted.

[MelonHead]

Well, too late now.

[LeeRoy]

No clue what you're talking about when you say anomaly of physics. Because the only real anomaly of physics is the shape of that pillar.

[MelonHead]

No clue what you're talking about when you say anomaly of physics.

@LeeRoy

Your character moved with the spikes momentum to escape the trap, but their momentum was ultimately pointed inwards, unless he thrust himself out with a push they simply would have pushed his hands in and pierced him regardless because his body wouldn't suddenly fly out of the trap, instantaneously. That being said, even if he had pushed himself out he would have ultimately lost his lower body, as the spikes would already be too close together by the time they had reached his hands, they'd definitely be finished forming the point of the cone by the time the rest of him escaped.

Don't get caught up on the name, the earth 'pillar' doesn't have to be a pillar at all, its shape is completely up to Metz in the bounds of the diameter and height.

Unless for some reason you're having trouble visualising a two foot by four foot cone of spikes.

[MelonHead]

It's ultimately unimportant, as I'm not pressing the issue for fear of seeming pissy, or boring, or unwilling to make the fight entertaining for you.

[LeeRoy]

The huge problem with that, is that Shin is about two feet wide. And unless the circle is more than two feet wide, it literally could not have caved inwards in any angular shape onto his torso.

Logically, Shin's feet would have been somewhere near the edge of the spire, and would have just been forced upwards by the large spike itself. However, you also included two smaller spikes that were underneath his feet. So unless your column of stone grew another foot and a half wide, and THEN moved inwards onto his body. There is literally no way it could have done how you just described.

Unless Shin were less than a foot thick. Then maybe yeah, it would have worked.

[MelonHead]

I'm sorry, but in no universe is Shin two feet wide. I think you might have forgotten I'm over 6ft 3" myself with broad shoulders, I used myself to judge. If he happened to have been standing in the widest stance of all time then by all means that might be possible, but that would simply mean he should have been stabbed in the feet. However he was in the act of stepping. Plus, it's really irrelevant how wide he is at the top, lower bodies are slender, and that's all the spikes needed.

If I had to judge, Shin would probably be about a foot and a half wide if he was in the act of stepping, presuming he has anything close to a normal human body type.

That being said, this is all completely ignoring the fact these spikes of rock are flying at roughly twice the speed of an olympic thrown javelin.