[OOC] Multiverse Rising (Always in need of New Friends)

[Absolis]

@flamelord right now, any fleet you have Cyano can vaporize as you would be parking it over Conablum labs.

[Flamelord]

@flamelord right now, any fleet you have Cyano can vaporize as you would be parking it over Conablum labs.

@Absolis

Force fields are a wonderful thing :V

[Absolis]

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Force fields are a wonderful thing :V

@Flamelord

Force fields do no good when Conablum labs could literally pull you around by messing with the gravity around you, fire electric waves to disable your forcefields, then bombard you with cold fusion until all that's left of you is dust. Of course that's all stationary defensive weaponry located at the labs.

[Flamelord]

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Force fields do no good when Conablum labs could literally pull you around by messing with the gravity around you, fire electric waves to disable your forcefields, then bombard you with cold fusion until all that's left of you is dust. Of course that's all stationary defensive weaponry located at the labs.

@Absolis

Well, this argument at the moment is invalid anyway since Ba'al doesn't actually know where the labs are and can't exactly send a fleet thee in the first place. But I would point out that the Goa'uld also have gravity manipulation technology (albeit not on such a large scale) and cold fusion weaponry too. And that's before getting into the Ancient technology recovered from Atlantis and other places.

[Absolis]

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Well, this argument at the moment is invalid anyway since Ba'al doesn't actually know where the labs are and can't exactly send a fleet thee in the first place. But I would point out that the Goa'uld also have gravity manipulation technology (albeit not on such a large scale) and cold fusion weaponry too. And that's before getting into the Ancient technology recovered from Atlantis and other places.

@Flamelord

Nice. That sounds very interesting.they might have an advantage with that, as conablum labs keeps that all at home. The main force of conablum labs is ohtward, and they don't use any of itm

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
You do realize that emps are basically useless against shielded technology, right? You can negate the effect of an emp by covering your tech with a layer of lead, even modern military tech is emp-proof. Considering a space-ship would often be exposed to the electromagnetic waves that emanate from particularly violent solar activity such as solar flares, shielding would be a necessity. Else their fleet would fall from the sky every time the stars acted up.

@Flamelord
So should I wait for Ruiko to react to the Ethereal, or post now?

[Flamelord]

@Flamelord
So should I wait for Ruiko to react to the Ethereal, or post now?

@thewizardguy

I can post. Give me a sec.

[Absolis]

@thewizardguy you act like Cyano wouldn't know that and have procedures in place for just that kind of shielding.

Cyano reads the evil overlord list of dos and donts. Don't underestimate her.

[Savato]

@thewizardguy @Absolis If I recall correctly, the EMP cannons in XCOM did indeed affect the super advanced ships of the aliens, even the big tough ones and the Overseer class. I'm going to assume Conablum labs is able to at least simulate that. Otherwise the aliens probably have a similar technology. But I'm going to have to say that a huge explosion of EMP isn't going to cut it, as it seems to be concentrated beams instead. So idk, that's my two cents, armies will tear each other apart anyway.

[Absolis]

Cyano does follow some cliches however. Because cliches are fun, and she wouldn't be believable if she didn't follow some of them.

Also, @savato her EMPs are, for one, extremely powerful. I won't give specifics, but I will say that in today's world it would take enough power to run two cities to fire her EMPs. So any firm of energy shielding will be easily overpowered.

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
At that level of power, it's no longer an anti-machine weaponry. The sheer amount of energy would cook any living being that came into contact with it, and boil the atmosphere. Sure, you'd fry machinery. But that would be the secondary effect. Any machine you would affect would be destroyed by the heat far more quickly than the electromagnetic field.

[Absolis]

@Absolis
At that level of power, it's no longer an anti-machine weaponry. The sheer amount of energy would cook any living being that came into contact with it, and boil the atmosphere. Sure, you'd fry machinery. But that would be the secondary effect. Any machine you would affect would be destroyed by the heat far more quickly than the electromagnetic field.

@thewizardguy

That's why it's used on shields. The shields will be taken down, but would also take most of the energy. It isn't continuous. It's still a ton of energy, so she wouldn't use it on unshielded ships.

[Savato]

@thewizardguy Hey did Nova manage to some how read the telepathic message or was he just very lucky in the formulation of his passage about the path she chose?

I do agree he surpasses the alien dude in almost anything, but it was established that it could at least stay out of his influence when actively using its power.

[Absolis]

Essentially the labs EMP isn't anti machine, it's anti shield. Add into the fact that if it fired at something like an unshielded ship, they would essentially be dropping the ship on their heads for the enemy

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
Yes, but sheilds aren't mechanical. Depending on the nature of the shield, most shields are physical barriers made of 'energy'. They are not dispelled by electromagnetic waves any more than any other physical barrier would be affected. Which basically means you're wasting energy, when just firing a big laser would be far more cost-effective.

[thewizardguy]

@Savato
Sure, the Ethereal is able to shield it's mind from Nova. But the telepathic messages were sent to Biolante and Ruiko, and he can read both of their minds with ease. Hence, once they know, he knows.

[Savato]

@thewizardguy So he can access anyone's memories as long as they don't have a very powerful Psionic shielding?

[Absolis]

He wouldn't be able to access Cyano unless she had physical augmentations active I suppose.

Also, I'm pretty sure Cyano is the embodiment of this rule

I will keep a special cache of low-tech weapons and train my troops in their use. That way -- even if the heroes manage to neutralize my power generator and/or render the standard-issue energy weapons useless -- my troops will not be overrun by a handful of savages armed with spears and rocks.

[Absolis]

Now that Absolis and Saber are in the right place, Saber can be formidable again.

For reference, when Saber has his teleporter, and is ready for a fight he is very annoying. Imagine him like a fly, buzzing in and pestering you with his dagger, and you unable to keep up, and when you do keep up, he teleporter out of the way. Now mix him with Absolis, who keeps you distracted because he is much stronger and muchore up front, and you have a deadly combination of Absolis' strength, and Sabers speed.

[thewizardguy]

@Savato
Pretty much, yeah. In the original material, it was stated that he could learn everything about you with a glance. I've nerfed that in this to just knowing what you're thinking at the moment, but he's still fairly bullshit. There's one scene where he forces an entire Chapter of Traitor Marines (1000 men) to their knees, just by telling them to kneel.