[OOC] The Sun Will Never Set (Reboot)

[Voltus_Ventus]

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What would that entail? I'd be more than happy to help answer questions and the like.

@Cyclone

Well, yes, that and essentially running the RP in my absence, adjusting claim sizes and other common sense.

[Meiyuuhi]

I was one in the old RP, so I'd be up for it again.

I'd like to point out that while Premier Ekaterina is certainly an athiesr, the PRK is not an officially athiest state. It is an officially secular state and freedom of religion is permitted, and the citizens of the PRK practice a variety of faiths without persecution. A couple people have them labeled as athiest which is only partly true.

[Voltus_Ventus]

I was one in the old RP, so I'd be up for it again.

I'd like to point out that while Premier Ekaterina is certainly an athiesr, the PRK is not an officially athiest state. It is an officially secular state and freedom of religion is permitted, and the citizens of the PRK practice a variety of faiths without persecution. A couple people have them labeled as athiest which is only partly true.

@Mihndar

Sure you don't want to be full on communist? It would be more fun.

Also, that's a nice banner you have, CO-GM.

[Serpentine88]

@Mihndar: Fair enough, I'll lower -4 relations for atheistic state to -2 relations for atheist leader. Still -2 relations for secular state.

Also, congratulations on Co-GMhood! Can we have an updated front page and character sheet accepted page now?

[Meiyuuhi]

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Sure you don't want to be full on communist? It would be more fun.

@Voltus_Ventus

Sure it would be more fun, but from the perspective of the PRK the important thing at the moment is strategic interests. The revolution has to survive before it can enforce its ideas on everyone. So Ekaterina's tactic is to make concessions in the hope of appearing a little less radical.

I'm also looking at this from the perspective of the fact that there was no French Revolution in this universe, no massive spread of the ideas of liberalism and nationalism (yet). So naturally any communist movement that appears in this context is going to be less radical in comparison to one in which the ideas of democracy and secularism are already well enshrined.

Yaaas a banner~

[Willy Vereb]

@Voltus_VentusNation Games on other sites also have technology and war mods. If anything I can help you out in those fields.
So if somebody would come up with a new technology or awesome warmachine they can consult me.
Same in regards of war outcomes if there's a disagreement.
Not sure if there's a need for such title here but I can help you in that.

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Sure it would be more fun, but from the perspective of the PRK the important thing at the moment is strategic interests. The revolution has to survive before it can enforce its ideas on everyone. So Ekaterina's tactic is to make concessions in the hope of appearing a little less radical.

I'm also looking at this from the perspective of the fact that there was no French Revolution in this universe, no massive spread of the ideas of liberalism and nationalism (yet). So naturally any communist movement that appears in this context is going to be less radical in comparison to one in which the ideas of democracy and secularism are already well enshrined.

Yaaas a banner~

@Mihndar

Secularism would be necessary for modern nations here, IMO.
Yllendthyr technically has that as while the emperor is the traditional leader of Arvandor his title is more of a figurehead than somebody who actively guides religion.
State laws also have little if any relevance to the way of Church and religion is only called upon for motivational purposes.

also as my example shows Secularism has little if anything to do with atheism. It has more in common with religious freedom.

[Cyclone]

For the most part I think our crowd is good at discussing things and coming up with a consensus together. When an argument does occasionally come up, I think Mihndar can arbitrate fairly. No need to have a ton of GMs in my view.

[Willy Vereb]

For the most part I think our crowd is good at discussing things and coming up with a consensus together. When an argument does occasionally come up, I think Mihndar can arbitrate fairly. No need to have a ton of GMs in my view.

@Cyclone

That's exactly why I said i am not sure we even need tech/war mods. People may come up with new techs but for the time being we should establish the political atmosphere for this game. We didn't even got past that in the previous incarnation of the game.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Serpentine88 Welp, all the accepted sheets (all the sheets) are named on the first post in the character section now, will also be updating the map on the OP now.

Actually, I think I'll wait for Isotope to finish the key because some countries aren't named and it confuses me.

[Willy Vereb]

@MihndarSpeaking of your symbol. Since it has the imperial two-headed eagle with the hammer and sickle does it mean you aren't against Imperialism in general?
Alternativel since it symbolizes the union between the Church and the State does it translate as you aren't the least bit secular?
Although it could be also explained with that the eagle is your national symbol and nobody really protested against you continuing to use it.
You may also invent different symbolism for the two heads.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@MihndarSpeaking of your symbol. Since it has the imperial two-headed eagle with the hammer and sickle does it mean you aren't against Imperialism in general?
Alternativel since it symbolizes the union between the Church and the State does it translate as you aren't the least bit secular?
Although it could be also explained with that the eagle is your national symbol and nobody really protested against you continuing to use it.
You may also invent different symbolism for the two heads.

@Willy Vereb

Two heads, The Craftsmen and The Farmers? I'd imagine it would be something the USSR would have done had it gone down that route. Alternatively the People and the State.

[Meiyuuhi]

@MihndarSpeaking of your symbol. Since it has the imperial two-headed eagle with the hammer and sickle does it mean you aren't against Imperialism in general?
Alternativel since it symbolizes the union between the Church and the State does it translate as you aren't the least bit secular?
Although it could be also explained with that the eagle is your national symbol and nobody really protested against you continuing to use it.
You may also invent different symbolism for the two heads.

@Willy Vereb

That's the same explanation I used in the last RP (it just being used as a national symbol). Also a level of respect for the past that was not present in the USSR since they wanted a total break with the Russian Empire. However the argument could be made that it is a leftover from imperialism and I do expect to have a controversy over that at some point.

[Cyclone]

Oh, I'll repost this in case you missed this Willy.

Phew. Finally got that post up.

@Willy Vereb Care for some interaction now? Yllendthyr's Prime minister has been invited to go to Moravia and meet Thaurissan.

@Cyclone

[Willy Vereb]

Oh, I'll repost this in case you missed this Willy.

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@Cyclone

I read your post. It's just that in my free time I'm busy with many other things including 3-4 other RPs.
I'll post when I can. I'll preferably start with Yllendthyr's OP.

[Grijs]

I claim the black area on the Eastern continent as the territory of the Rocites. The Ancient Egyptian themed bird people! Faction name will be.. The Celestial Kingdom of Rocesses! ('C' pronounced as 'K') And Kingdom is merely what it's called only due to the absence of a better suiting word in the English language. They're not ruled by kings but more akin to Pharaohs and caliph-like rulers. The kingdom's very likely to be considered a dark-age relic by everyone else for the modern setting of this universe. Some coastal colonies have been established on former Rocite territory, whose inhabitants had likely retreated inland as a consequence.

[Willy Vereb]

BTW, since my projectiles are light I plan to use tandem-warhead navy shells.
Basically imagine a large-bore shell fitted with half shaped charge and a delayed explosive warhead.
This mechanism is very similar how battleship cannons and iron bombs work except they don't need another warhead to do the job for them because the dense iron cap does the job alone.
Shaped charges cost more than a block of iron and of course they take up more place away from the HE charge. They're also more expensive so they're using lower diameter projectiles to save volume which further reduces the explosive power. On the other hand smaller diameter guns can threaten warships and up to its entire range. So you could say death by a thousand cuts.
The low calibers also further discourage Yllendthyr to build large battleships and they only have that as a symbol of prestige.

Does it sound okay by you?
Tandem charges aren't anything really new. They just never required them much. Just like how shaped charges in general sat in the patent library for decades before somebody realized to use them in war.
This is another eccentricity from Yllendthyr which is balanced yet also gives them a certain style.

[Meiyuuhi]

I claim the black area on the Eastern continent as the territory of the Rocites. The Ancient Egyptian themed bird people! Faction name will be.. The Celestial Kingdom of Rocesses! ('C' pronounced as 'K')

You will have to forgive my lack of enthusiasm for yet another caesaropapist autocracy.

Nothing wrong with you or your nation (your claim looks fine btw), but the world's feeling awfully bland at the moment.

Btw Willy I'm not sure if that's directed at me but reading up on them makes me inclined to say that's fine.

[Willy Vereb]

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You will have to forgive my lack of enthusiasm for yet another caesaropapist absolute autocracy.

Nothing wrong with you or your nation, but the world's feeling awfully bland at the moment.

@Mihndar

It's a backwards country with Pharaohs. Of course it has such a style.
And nah, I can't see what's so bland about Neo Egyptian Pharaoh state.
We have authocracies, consitutional monarchies, republics, fascists, communists, feudal japanese and all other flavors.
I might be slightly blind because I can't see anything boring in this.

Btw Willy I'm not sure if that's directed at me but reading up on them makes me inclined to say that's fine.

@Mihndar

We decided to judge everything as a community which is why I posted this before deciding to go with it.
Granted, my 133mm cannons are unlikely to sport this load yet because they're too small to be economically viable.
But my 244mm and 288mm bore cannons will.
Basically cruisers will be my mainline ship, even moreso than to other races.
I'll possess two battleships but they're mostly for appearances.

[ClocktowerEchos]

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Nothing wrong with you or your nation, but the world's feeling awfully bland at the moment.

@Mihndar

Are you calling the kinky zealous perverts who can turn a 21th century gun fight into a 16th century sword brawl bland? :<

[Meiyuuhi]

<Snipped quote by Mihndar>It's a backwards country with Pharaohs. Of course it has such a style.
And nah, I can't see what's so bland about Neo Egyptian Pharaoh state.
We have authocracies, consitutional monarchies, republics, fascists, communists, feudal japanese and all other flavors.
I might be slightly blind because I can't see anything boring in this.

@Willy Vereb

Eh, maybe I'm just nostalgic for the old RP with more republics. Still, half those things you mentioned there are one of and half the other nations are autocratic empires. If that's the way it's going to be though I can't do much more than complain (but I'll leave it rest).

And indeed as people post the flavor will develop.