Star Wars: The Other Orders

[Ciphra]

Well there's definitely a lot to go through. Hmmm I can't quite decide haha. Any suggestions to check out?

[knighthawk]

Well, that depends. What aspect of the jedi/star wars do you like the most?

You will like what is most familiar to you. I like melee fighters so I looked at the matukai. If you want some sweet gimick power armor then you might like Jensaarai. If you like moving objects around then zeison sha are to of the list with Findsmn using the force visions to track their enemies.

So what is it you like about starwars and we can build on what you like.

[Sep]

This is different... and interesting.

[Ciphra]

Hey Sep!

And back to the topic, I'd have to go with...Hmmmm I definitely liked just the general aspect of the jedi, but I found them overall to be too pacifistic for my liking, but on the other hand with the sith I found them overly...Cultish? I definitely prefer lightsaber combat, but I also enjoy the use of the force, possibly in a way of enhancing the user's body? Eh not fully sure if that would be a thing or not for a near description of any of the groups, but I suppose it's worth a shot haha. Oh, and as to good or bad, I like the whole out for yourself or the group point of view. Screw anyone that's not with us kind of thing.

[knighthawk]

Hey Sep!

And back to the topic, I'd have to go with...Hmmmm I definitely liked just the general aspect of the jedi, but I found them overall to be too pacifistic for my liking, but on the other hand with the sith I found them overly...Cultish? I definitely prefer lightsaber combat, but I also enjoy the use of the force, possibly in a way of enhancing the user's body? Eh not fully sure if that would be a thing or not for a near description of any of the groups, but I suppose it's worth a shot haha. Oh, and as to good or bad, I like the whole out for yourself or the group point of view. Screw anyone that's not with us kind of thing.

@Ciphra

High combat, between jedi and sith, enhancing self through the force.. CONGRATS! You want to try Matukai. If you like, we could do a master/apprentice thing since they travel in groups of 3-5.

[ArmoredSloth69]

Wiki page for species I'm thinking of using if accepted (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Karkarodon).

I'm having trouble thinking of what group he would fall under, if any at all. In my mind he would seem to easily tempered or aggressive for most order's to bare. If anything, he would of been found early as a youngling and brought to the Jedi, only to be denied acceptance. I was thinking that he could just be a force sensitive shark-man bodyguard or hired jaw who needs refuge. Maybe a little brute force to balance out the zen and mysticism of Jedi outcasts and monks.

[Sep]

Hey @Ciphra, also @knighthawk, @assallya long time :P

[knighthawk]

HI!@Sep

[Ciphra]

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High combat, between jedi and sith, enhancing self through the force.. CONGRATS! You want to try Matukai. If you like, we could do a master/apprentice thing since they travel in groups of 3-5.

@knighthawk

Sounds good to me! Should we talk more in PM about the characters then?

[Nytem4re]

It's been a while since I've shown interest for a star wars rp, but if you'd have me I'd be interested in making a Jensaarai.

[knighthawk]

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Sounds good to me! Should we talk more in PM about the characters then?

@Ciphra

We could, or have it out here in the comment section to keep generating interest.

[Ciphra]

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We could, or have it out here in the comment section to keep generating interest.

@knighthawk

Hey I'm game for either. So where do you wanna start? (Again first Star Wars Character so still figuring everything out sorry XD)

[knighthawk]

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Hey I'm game for either. So where do you wanna start? (Again first Star Wars Character so still figuring everything out sorry XD)

@Ciphra

Well you have your 'class' so now you need a 'race' so now you have the whole galaxy of alien species to pick from.

[Ciphra]

Hmmm...Probably Human for a male Character, Mirialan or Human if I went with a female character, I don't care which haha.

[knighthawk]

Warning as I shotgun a bunch of data all at once, not trying to overwhelm you:

I'd go with Mirialan, male or female. Just for embracing the great span of the galaxy.

So Mirialan Matukai, love the allegorical. As Mirialan are a known jedi recruitable species, one question would be character age compared to order 66 and the second to why she wasn't a jedi conscript first.

It is already said they pick people the order would not have chosen, many children who fail the jedi padawan trials become members of agri-corps or medi-corps and explori-corps. One option is a failed jedi initiate who came upon the wookie with her time in the corps that brought them together when order 66 occurred and he kept her on the run with him since.

The other idea I had was that the wookiee knew one of her parents and he pledged a life debt to their child so he has always been the 'fuzzy uncle'.

[Ciphra]

Warning as I shotgun a bunch of data all at once, not trying to overwhelm you:

I'd go with Mirialan, male or female. Just for embracing the great span of the galaxy.

So Mirialan Matukai, love the allegorical. As Mirialan are a known jedi recruitable species, one question would be character age compared to order 66 and the second to why she wasn't a jedi conscript first.

It is already said they pick people the order would not have chosen, many children who fail the jedi padawan trials become members of agri-corps or medi-corps and explori-corps. One option is a failed jedi initiate who came upon the wookie with her time in the corps that brought them together when order 66 occurred and he kept her on the run with him since.

The other idea I had was that the wookiee knew one of her parents and he pledged a life debt to their child so he has always been the 'fuzzy uncle'.

@knighthawk

Don't mind excess stuff thrown at me, I actually prefer it so don't worry about that. Just keep in mind my knowledge is that of the movies and a few of the older games, so the whole Agri-corps, Medi-coprs (Obviously something medical here?), and explori-corps are something I know nothing about. Also what would be some reasons for someone failing the trials, and also how long has it been since order 66 (Might've missed that part) and how old would she have had to have been to start and fail the trials?

[knighthawk]

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Don't mind excess stuff thrown at me, I actually prefer it so don't worry about that. Just keep in mind my knowledge is that of the movies and a few of the older games, so the whole Agri-corps, Medi-coprs (Obviously something medical here?), and explori-corps are something I know nothing about. Also what would be some reasons for someone failing the trials, and also how long has it been since order 66 (Might've missed that part) and how old would she have had to have been to start and fail the trials?

@Ciphra

As is a repeated commonality, the 'initiate trials' are often a test of mind, body and spirit. Failing any of these usually hedges out even the younglings before they become padawans, then again at the padawan stage before a knight may select a student to teach them. the enclave in KOTOR 1 is an example of the padawan trials where he has to build his lightsber by going to the cave for the crystals is testing the body by combat, then performing the code from memory is a reflection of the mind and last to figure out the disturbace to the north where you meet juhani. saving her from her own darkness is the trial of spirit.

Another example of the trials is anakin seeing what is on the datapad, either by seeing into the force for remote viewing or reading the mind to know the answer would both be acceptable tests of the mind.

[Ciphra]

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As is a repeated commonality, the 'initiate trials' are often a test of mind, body and spirit. Failing any of these usually hedges out even the younglings before they become padawans, then again at the padawan stage before a knight may select a student to teach them. the enclave in KOTOR 1 is an example of the padawan trials where he has to build his lightsber by going to the cave for the crystals is testing the body by combat, then performing the code from memory is a reflection of the mind and last to figure out the disturbace to the north where you meet juhani. saving her from her own darkness is the trial of spirit.

Another example of the trials is anakin seeing what is on the datapad, either by seeing into the force for remote viewing or reading the mind to know the answer would both be acceptable tests of the mind.

@knighthawk

So I suppose for her I would have to say she probably failed the trial of spirit I would think. So the question at that point would be, would she have gotten a lightsaber/made a lightsaber? If so would she have forsaken it after joining the Matukai? Or perhaps modified the Matukai weapon so the blade is that of a saber instead of material? Perhaps even neither? I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud at this point haha.

As for age, again I'm not sure on when initiates are entered or how long it's been though.

For the life debt idea, I just thought about that one a bit more as I was writing. Would that still be with her being a failed initiate? Or would that be her being born after Order 66 or not old enough to go to the temple yet?

[knighthawk]

having a violent nature above and beyond the usual for jedi could be a reason to fail the test of spirit.

Lightsabers are usually an act performed while a padawan and part of the transformation to jedi knight. Until then, younglingslike in the temple were using what is called a training saber and padawans basically borrow a functional saber from their masters. Sometimes the master will build the lightsaber in front of the padawan to show them what to prepare for and then hand the child the one the adult made as a gift.

So if she never even made it to youngling, no saber at all. if she made it to youngling but not padawan, then a practice saber. if a padawan and her master died at order 66, then a functional lightsaber.

But remember, Makutai dont use lightsabers, they use Wan-shen. A pole-arm weapon that is often imbued with the force to resist lightsaber strikes, but only defined as 'a 2 meter pole with a blade on the end'. I've seen this interpreted lots of ways. Some people think of a glaive or naginata others say the image is clearly an axe like a halberd and I once saw a player claim the blade on the end of a stick as a scythe.

When this gets off the ground, the wookiee's is going to be using his Ryyk blade retooled into this weapon with a collapsible handle as a snap out baton, a lot like a machete on the end of a stick. Your character could do something like take the lightsaber components from their old saber and introduce the pieces into the construction of the wan-shen to give it a second life as something new just like she would use her limited jedi training to build upon her makutai training.

Carrying around a saber is an invitation to stupidity if even an 8 year old slave can recognize an unignighted laser sword on the hip. If it is not dismantled into something like the golden gun (james bond movie staring count dooku ironically, a disassemblable golden handgun made of a gold cigarette case, gold cigarette lighter, gold fountain pen and gold cufflink as the gun's trigger.), which till takes time to assemble, unless you are thinking of the jedi from star wars rebels where he keeps just one piece unattached and snaps them together which takes less time but still identifiable as lightsaber parts.

Not shooting it down, just ideas and information

[Ciphra]

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having a violent nature above and beyond the usual for jedi could be a reason to fail the test of spirit.

Lightsabers are usually an act performed while a padawan and part of the transformation to jedi knight. Until then, younglingslike in the temple were using what is called a training saber and padawans basically borrow a functional saber from their masters. Sometimes the master will build the lightsaber in front of the padawan to show them what to prepare for and then hand the child the one the adult made as a gift.

So if she never even made it to youngling, no saber at all. if she made it to youngling but not padawan, then a practice saber. if a padawan and her master died at order 66, then a functional lightsaber.

But remember, Makutai dont use lightsabers, they use Wan-shen. A pole-arm weapon that is often imbued with the force to resist lightsaber strikes, but only defined as 'a 2 meter pole with a blade on the end'. I've seen this interpreted lots of ways. Some people think of a glaive or naginata others say the image is clearly an axe like a halberd and I once saw a player claim the blade on the end of a stick as a scythe.

When this gets off the ground, the wookiee's is going to be using his Ryyk blade retooled into this weapon with a collapsible handle as a snap out baton, a lot like a [ulr=ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-87491460501412/jap.. on the end of a stick[/url]. Your character could do something like take the lightsaber components from their old saber and introduce the pieces into the construction of the wan-shen to give it a second life as something new just like she would use her limited jedi training to build upon her makutai training.

Carrying around a saber is an invitation to stupidity if even an 8 year old slave can recognize an unignighted laser sword on the hip. If it is not dismantled into something like the golden gun (james bond movie staring count dooku ironically, a disassemblable golden handgun made of a gold cigarette case, gold cigarette lighter, gold fountain pen and gold cufflink as the gun's trigger.), which till takes time to assemble, unless you are thinking of the jedi from star wars rebels where he keeps just one piece unattached and snaps them together which takes less time but still identifiable as lightsaber parts.

Not shooting it down, just ideas and information
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Haha don't worry about it. I appreciate all the help. I kind of like the scythe one though...That sounds pretty cool actually. What about a scythe with a blacde at each end? Or if we go with the mix of staff and saber could I give it a unique form or would it just be a blade at the end of the staff?

As for the age thing, I finally looked up the whole initiate thing and what not so now all I need to know is how many years after the war it is and I can finally set the age and also he will probably have failed the initiate trials and use the scythe I mentioned, unless it's not that long after the war and she would be a padawan, I have to look up Mirialan age stuff first as well but that's my next thing I'm about to work on.