[OOC] Waeldeshore: The Wars Beyond [DISCONTINUED]

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

Fifth Edition is well made, but it lacks support and it is not exactly going anywhere quickly. It certainly plays more smoothly, but it just lacks the options of Third Edition. Fourth Edition is more balanced than any but certainly does not play like what one expects it to. Our group switches between Third and Fifth, given there's elements of each we enjoy and it depends on the setting; E6 works wonderfully as a variant of Third Edition.
@Zero Hex

I believe this may have been the link @IcePezz was referring to.
@Crimson Raven

[Dragoknighte]

Oh hey guys, I hope you guys don't mind if I just slide right in.

WIP

Name: Thaddeus Black

Species: Human

Age: 26

Description: (A paragraph description or an image would do.)

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Backstory: Scourge of the seas, Captain Thaddeus Black was known far and wide as a ruthless pirate captain whose hunger for gold was only matched by his thirst for women. He and his gang, the Hollowpoint pirates would seemingly appear from nowhere, ambush an unsuspecting merchant ship, strip it of all valuable and then leave as if it had never even been there in the first place. Despite his greed and lechery, those that knew of him were aware that he was a genius at maritime tactics and a surprisingly good shot on top of that.

One night, while out drinking he was jumped a rival pirate gang who later claimed to have dumped his body into the ocean after stabbing him. Whether that was the truth or not, Thaddeus vanished for 6 months, only to reappear one day a changed man. No longer jovial and cocksure, but grim and dead set on revenge. Some say he sold his soul to return from the grave, but nothing can be certain.

Personality: (How your character acts and behaves as a result of his/her life experiences and nature.Try and put at least a paragraph into this one.)

Skills/Abilities: (Describe your character's abilities, if applicable. This includes combat ability (weapon proficiency, martial arts etc excluding magic) as well as general trade skills like blacksmithing, carpentry, farming, hunting, fishing, tailoring, and medicine (to name just a few). Basic skills like cooking or sewing, for example, need not be listed here unless your character is exceptionally good at them. Miscellaneous skills and attributes that are unique to your character should also be listed here. If you have any questions about what should and shouldn't go here, ask a GM.)

Magic: None

[vietmyke]

Fifth Edition is well made, but it lacks support and it is not exactly going anywhere quickly. It certainly plays more smoothly, but it just lacks the options of Third Edition. Fourth Edition is more balanced than any but certainly does not play like what one expects it to. Our group switches between Third and Fifth, given there's elements of each we enjoy and it depends on the setting; E6 works wonderfully as a variant of Third Edition.
@Zero Hex

I believe this may have been the link @IcePezz was referring to.
@Crimson Raven

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Aye, my group typically uses 3rd edition, though we've recently started dabbling in 5th. I like third because I already own several gigs worth of books for it.. So my wallet demands that I stay.

Hmm... Also, it appears that at the moment, my character is a new face in a field of veterans... this will be interesting.

[Zero Hex]

Eh I consider it something of a sunk cost fallacy. If the system is so flawed and easily broken that most any spellcaster class can render non-spellcasters superfluous it's better to find a less poorly thought out system, even if you already have experience and splats for 3.5. My GM got started on 3/3.5 like a ton of people but he's been willing to try out other systems. About the only thing we've discarded off-hand has been RIFTs because dear lord that's a clusterfuck.

Anyway, enough about me and my dislike over 3.5, which characters are returning? Or did you mean relative character ages and experience levels?

[vietmyke]

All of the current characters in the character tab/accepted besides mine are returning characters... lol

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

Thus far? The returning characters would only be Regina Hills and Ionathan Hepburnberg thus far, albeit canonically Sakaala is familiar with Asadan Redd, my previous character. There should be a few more, perhaps Isabeau even.

@Zero Hex@vietmyke

[vietmyke]

@The Harbinger of Ferocity Oh, lol I just assumed that most of the returning players were using their old characters- my mistake. Also just remembered Wolf's character is also not a returning character. My point is moot.

[IcePezz]

So we have the following characters accepted:
@vietmyke as Emil (new character/new player)
@AdamantiumWolf as Maru (new character/new player)
@The Harbinger of Ferocity as Sakaala (new character/vet player)
@Jon Y as Ionathan (returning character/vet player)

and the following people have applied:
@Dragoknighte (vet player)
@Zero Hex (new player)
@boomlover (vet player)
@Belwicket (vet player)
@Crimson Raven (new player)

that brings us to 9 players, honestly, I didn't think the rp was going to get that much attention. Arena and I will be discussing a few things, but I think we can manage with this number, though this is the cut-off. Unless one of you decides to drop, we cannot accept any more applications. I've changed the status of the RP to full. If anyone else wants in, they'll have to have a seriously good cs. Priority goes to veteran players of Waeldeshore, as we did promise them a saved spot at the close of the previous Waeldeshore rp.

@Belwicket with the edited cs, I think you're good to go. Please just keep in mind the stuff we talked about. But you can move her to the character's tab.

[Crimson Raven]

My character sheet is coming. Its slow going, though.

[IcePezz]

@Zero Hex this is what comes to mind when I read your cs:

grrr arrg

Aka the awesomeness of Lugo

You pretty much mushed together a jujitsu fighter and the hulk :p I like him. I woooooouuulllddd like a bit more balance, but we should be up to the challenge of keeping him in check. So unless you have any other edits, he can go into the characters tab.

@Crimson Raven you are on my list of applicants. So we have a spot for you. However the sooner you can get me a cs, the better.

[Crimson Raven]

@IcePezz

I think I'll PM it to you as soon as I get th chance.

[Zero Hex]

@Zero Hex this is what comes to mind when I read your cs:

grrr arrg

Aka the awesomeness of Lugo

You pretty much mushed together a jujitsu fighter and the hulk :p I like him. I woooooouuulllddd like a bit more balance, but we should be up to the challenge of keeping him in check. So unless you have any other edits, he can go into the characters tab.

@Crimson Raven you are on my list of applicants. So we have a spot for you. However the sooner you can get me a cs, the better.

@IcePezz

It's a less a BJJ guy and more a smothering wrestler with a lot of muscle, the kind that's not as good on submissions but better at explosive movement, ragdolling you and grinding you down from a dominant position. As for the balance, it's hard to have the gimmick of being an unarmed frontliner without being naturally tough and strong enough to compete with monsters, but I figured having pretty much nothing else to bring to the table was a good counterpoint. No edits on my end if you're cool with him.

[Crimson Raven]

@IcePezz@Zero Hex

-DISCLAIMER- I'm not trying to criticize, or start a fight. I realize I'm NOT the GM here and my opinion has very little weight, so take this with a grain of salt. I'm only voicing my concern.

Speaking as a player, I have concerns over the balancing of his character too. Especially "near tireless" with "superhuman strength". It just brings to mind many superheroes (Like Hulk, and to a lesser degree, Superman) who smash and bash. This could be simply how it is worded, and not intended.

[ArenaSnow]

@IcePezz@Zero Hex

-DISCLAIMER- I'm not trying to criticize, or start a fight. I realize I'm NOT the GM here and my opinion has very little weight, so take this with a grain of salt. I'm only voicing my concern.

Speaking as a player, I have concerns over the balancing of his character too. Especially "near tireless" with "superhuman strength". It just brings to mind many superheroes (Like Hulk, and to a lesser degree, Superman) who smash and bash. This could be simply how it is worded, and not intended.

@Crimson Raven

I would say that the concerns are valid, and yes, there is a little bit of an off balance.

But I do have a few characters in mind that will be next to impossible to brute-force. So it'll balance out. :)

[The Fated Fallen]

@IcePezz@Zero Hex

-DISCLAIMER- I'm not trying to criticize, or start a fight. I realize I'm NOT the GM here and my opinion has very little weight, so take this with a grain of salt. I'm only voicing my concern.

Speaking as a player, I have concerns over the balancing of his character too. Especially "near tireless" with "superhuman strength". It just brings to mind many superheroes (Like Hulk, and to a lesser degree, Superman) who smash and bash. This could be simply how it is worded, and not intended.

@Crimson Raven

And with but a single darkened word from a demon, he is brainwashed and set upon all his friends!

(edit: Yeah I know that won't happen, taking control of someone else's character is a big no-no to any new players)

[Zero Hex]

I may have overestimated the powerlevel of this game, but we do also have a character who has racial advantages in the physical realm and is a trained spellblade with three separate power lists, plus a rogue with a standard skillset for both in and out of combat situations and a psionic powerlist. Even outside of having characters obviously adept at multiple focuses while Ajax is extremely singleminded in approach, the powerlists for both characters include a number of buffs and debuffs, further increasing their general scope and utility. Other characters without magical/psionic powers can be skilled at more than just the straight up hand to hand fighting aspect of it.

Keep in mind I have no problem with this, if I did I'd say so, I'm just using these characters as an example of others that are around Ajax's level with a far greater scope than "pick the biggest thing and wrestle with it". Would you have the same issues if he were a typical fighter clad in full armor and wielding a big shield and bludgeon? Because then he'd be filling the same role and could also get buffs from acquiring better gear, something that other martially-inclined characters can do. Not to mention that even if he's built for it he's still using his own body as a weapon and shield, rather than using unfeeling pieces of wood and/or metal.

[IcePezz]

@Zero Hex as I am a huge Spartacus fan, so I'm just gonna call him Lugo now :p

Just kidding. But as Arena said, we do have things in mind to help keep your character in check.

The strength bit, I completely understood and was fine with that. I think it was more so the never tiring factor that had me a tad concerned. While each character we have accepted may be quite powerful indeed, we always try to keep in mind checks and balances. Weaknesses can be rather awesome for a character can have. We also don't have a set range in place for character levels. This is mostly because Arena has such awesome bad guys and we're adaptable, and I feel that as long as you're creative enough that your character can survive, everyone has something to contribute :)

I digress though. He is an accepted character. If we come across any issues, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. As long as you understand where we're coming from, as gm's, and what we're looking for in this rp :)

[Zero Hex]

@Zero Hex as I am a huge Spartacus fan, so I'm just gonna call him Lugo now :p

Just kidding. But as Arena said, we do have things in mind to help keep your character in check.

The strength bit, I completely understood and was fine with that. I think it was more so the never tiring factor that had me a tad concerned. While each character we have accepted may be quite powerful indeed, we always try to keep in mind checks and balances. Weaknesses can be rather awesome for a character can have. We also don't have a set range in place for character levels. This is mostly because Arena has such awesome bad guys and we're adaptable, and I feel that as long as you're creative enough that your character can survive, everyone has something to contribute :)

I digress though. He is an accepted character. If we come across any issues, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. As long as you understand where we're coming from, as gm's, and what we're looking for in this rp :)

@IcePezz

Sure, sounds good to me. I just prefer adressing other player's issues from my point of view when they're presented to me. In this case, yes, he's big and tough and meant to be a frontliner but at the exclusion of everything else. No magic, no versatility in approach by having multiple weapons, no gear buffs, no particular skillset beyond being good at breaking things and a very, very straightforward approach to doing so.

I can reword the never-tiring bit to just having a stamina pool as befit his role, but when you're trained to fight you learn to avoid gassing out unless under very heavy exertion. You can make someone gas out, and different people carry different tanks, but as a general rule any championship level fighter is going to be able to stay more or less active throughout all rounds. Up that to fantasy levels and well, you're gonna wind up with someone who's very hard to tire out in direct fighting.

[ArenaSnow]

Hey, challenge accepted :P I think most of the characters here would outdo the average adventurer at a low-powered fantasy level.

They'll need it for what's cooking.

[vietmyke]

Hey, challenge accepted :P I think most of the characters here would outdo the average adventurer at a low-powered fantasy level.

They'll need it for what's cooking.

@ArenaSnow

Aside from my character anyway.. Outdo, but probably not spectacularly so. Lol so green. The main idea behind my character is learning from the rest of the party, and potentially picking up some of the things that they can do. Not too sure how well that's gonna play out, but it'll probably be some sort of fun.