[OOC] The Fate of the Cursed (WH40K Renegade Space Marine RP: ALWAYS OPEN)

[Mortarion]

@agentmanatee Don't worry man, take as much time as you need

[BCTheEntity]

I only found this thread today, and I am already extremely interested in it. I'm also not entirely certain why it only has eight characters signed up at this stage; it's a damnably creative concept, so far as I'm concerned. In any case, I've come up with a character concept which may or may not be acceptable as a character for how... let's say how odd it is, so I'll talk about it first before making the character sheet for it.

The Hashtag Concept

Basically, we have Forge-Adept Validus Rooke, who's either a member of the Raven Guard from just before the 21st Founding, or a member of the Warp Skulls from just after the 21st Founding; maybe you want me to take up a Captain slot before using a character on the Forge-Adept, which I can always do instead of this, but I suppose multiple characters isn't an impossibility either if this one is allowed. Anyway, Validus gets sent off to study under the Mechanicus for a few decades, and comes back with an almost obsessive reverence for the Omnissiah even by Mechanicus standards, to the point that he's already half-machine by the time he comes back, and within a couple more decades has ended up replacing everything but his brain with machinery. The only reason he doesn't immediately create and install an artificial copy of his own brain is because he's near-constantly modifying his actual body to be ever more powerful and efficient in his free time, upgrading parts beyond Imperium standards and adding ever more servo-arms and mechadendrites to his servo-harness, never mind what he's doing to many of the chapter's servitors, weapons, vehicles, and sometimes even the serfs if they'll allow it, such that he never finds the time to just finalise his own mechanisation; in a normal chapter, he'd probably have been chastised or excised from service long before then, but the Warp Skulls have a close bond with the Mechanicus, so it's allowed for a fairly extensive period of time, given that he hasn't gone and created his own personal army of Skitarii just yet.

All that happens before the mutations start taking hold of the chapter's members. Validus Rooke's mutations begin at about the middle stage of the chapter's overall mutation, possibly because he's already gotten rid of most of his organic tissue; when they do take hold, though, they almost seem to be concentrated in his only organic part left - his brain. Tentacles emerge from his artificial skull, his thought processes are vastly altered, and where his previous personality was stoic and logical, if somewhat overenthusiastic, his new personality is quite deranged, as he claims to start hearing the Omnissiah itself talking to him in purest binary code, pushing him to perform ever more extreme modifications to himself and his charges (most notably, replacing the organic tentacles growing from his brain with even more mechadendrites), until one day, when whatever has taken hold of the chapter and his mind hits a critical point, and he abruptly and somewhat violently develops into a psyker.

This puts the chapter in an unenviable position of deciding what to do with him - whilst what he was doing before was barely acceptable, his new abilities seem like they'd be absurdly dangerous in somebody of his temperament and physical capability, and his psyche likely won't benefit from suddenly being an open pathway into the Warp either, if it's not already corrupted beyond redemption by whatever has happened to him; on the other hand, dealing with him through any means that isn't straight overkill may be inviable, and despite his madness, the man has continued to produce brilliant solutions to previously-unknown problems, to the point of eliminating the overheating issues with many of the chapter's plasma weapons. Eventually, it's decided that he'll basically be heavily brainwashed into a more acceptable state of mind, then trained further in containment and use of his psychic powers, since both those and his knowledge are too valuable to just outright get rid of; this happens, and his mind reverts to a more stable state, albeit one of moderate confusion around anything that isn't his relatively weird psychic abilities or the chapter's machinery, with his brain developing the crystalline coating normally present on a standard Librarian's skin as he's trained to utilise his new powers, both as offensive measures against the Warp Skulls' enemies and to better service the machine spirits of the chapter in spite of his extreme deviation from the Imperium's normal setups for their devices. Said deviation may or may not be part of the Warp Skulls' current predicament, but that's a discussion for another time.

And with all that said, I completely and utterly understand if any or all of the GMs just straight-up say "no" to this concept. It's very out-there, it basically covers two completely different character archetypes, and even I'm not sure it should be allowed. I just wanted to get it out there, basically. Do feel free to rip into me on this one, fellas.

[agentmanatee]

@BCTheEntity WELL

It is certainly original(and a bit Lovecraftian but chaos is like that anyways) and rather extreme as far as mutations go...

I'm certainly fine with you being the forge adept rather than the captain... in fact we actually have the master of the forge already(Constantine Drussos played by mortarion)

As for the concept itself... hmmmm... as strange as it is the Warp Skulls are a very insular chapter, and very isolationist anyways being a fleet based chapter in the edges of Imperial space.

Personally? If you wite it well in the character sheet and play it well I have no problem with it. If my CO-GM's disagree we will have a conversation but I am alright with it... just remember that the chapter hasn't fallen yet so you are probably extremely outcast currently

That said, I am fine with the concept, feel free to write him up and pm me the cs

[BCTheEntity]

@agentmanatee Oh shit, really? Nice. I'll wait for the co-GMs to have their say, but I'm basically thinking that, in his current state, Rooke's considered less an actual Marine, and more an exceptionally useful, if potentially volatile tool, a view helped by him being almost literally entirely artificial by now. So nothing the Imperium doesn't utilise on a regular basis, badum tshh. But seriously, I'll do my best not to let you down; I'd probably need @Mortarion's co-operation, since Constantine would probably have had something to do with Valius' brainwashing and/or training, but that can presumably be done, especially since he's lurking in the thread as we speak.

[Mortarion]

@agentmanatee Oh shit, really? Nice. I'll wait for the co-GMs to have their say, but I'm basically thinking that, in his current state, Rooke's considered less an actual Marine, and more an exceptionally useful, if potentially volatile tool, a view helped by him being almost literally entirely artificial by now. So nothing the Imperium doesn't utilise on a regular basis, badum tshh. But seriously, I'll do my best not to let you down; I'd probably need @Mortarion's co-operation, since Constantine would probably have had something to do with Valius' brainwashing and/or training, but that can presumably be done, especially since he's lurking in the thread as we speak.

@BCTheEntity

I'd be willing to help, sure, let me read the concept you psoted and hten maybe we can talk it via PM or in this thread if you'd prefer.

EDIT: Hey, @agentmanatee I remembered an diea that I had for COnstantine, midn if I shoot oyu a PM with what it was?

[BCTheEntity]

@Mortarion I figure we can discuss it in-thread. There doesn't appear to be much else going on right now anyway, so.

[Mortarion]

@BCTheEntity Alright then, what do you need help with?

[BCTheEntity]

@Mortarion Basically, we'd need to discuss what interactions Valius and Constantine actually have with one another in the regards I previously stated. Presumably, their interaction is quite minimal prior to Valius suddenly becoming a psyker, given that most of the chapter's standard technology would be serviced by the lower-ranked Techmarines and the direct allies the chapter has within the AdMech, and there would probably be little interaction between the two groups normally beyond perhaps the use of Force weapons and other psyker-specific gear. Therefore, we'd need to discuss how they react to one another post-Psykerisation. As I said, it may or may not be the case that Constantine was directly involved in Valius' brainwashing, and it may or may not be the case that he was directly involved in his subsequent psyker training. What I want to know is how involved you're comfortable with Constantine getting - that is to say, how much time he puts into both of these things, and how much of those tasks is instead left to the lesser psykers in the chapter. It's your call, keeping in mind that Valius' psyker abilities probably only developed relatively recently... let's say within the past half a century or so.

[agentmanatee]

@BCTheEntityYou do realize the Forge adept is a space marine right?

[BCTheEntity]

@agentmanatee I am well aware of that, yes. That's probably part of why Valius would've been allowed to live at all, since his basic superhuman physique alone makes him markedly more powerful than any normal Tech-priest, never mind how he's improved upon that over and over again over time. I'm just saying, it seems rather unlikely that the Librarians and Techmarines have much to do with each other thematically under usual circumstances, and it therefore seems unlikely that they interact with one another too much beyond the basic necessities of supplying technology and general niceties that one should show a fellow battle-brother. I'd have further proposed at this point that the general strangeness of the Techmarines would (going by what 40k's canon states, mind) further alienate them from their fellows in most chapters that weren't highly involved with the AdMech in the first place, but that point is moot considering the high degree of cooperation between the Warp Skulls and AdMech.

Basically, I'm of the opinion that Constantine and Valius wouldn't normally have interacted very much, save for Valius' weird in-between state, and depending on how involved Constantine gets with Valius' reprogramming and psyker training, they may not interact all that frequently anyway; as stated, Rooke's probably considered more of a dangerous tool than a living being at the story's beginning by the majority of the chapter, certainly the veterans and command staff at any rate, and has probably been very alienated from both his fellow Techmarines and the Librarians he's basically been forced to interact with by his new abilities.

[agentmanatee]

@BCTheEntity Constantine is the master of the forge, they choose the forge adept from the techmarine pool... you guys should have had lots of interaction

[BCTheEntity]

@agentmanatee Oh, whoops. I'm apparently stupid, then, because I thought he was the Chief Librarian... which is actually @Sarpedon with Medeis Calvaria. Uh... replace all prior instances of "Constantine" with "Medeis", in that case. And Sarpedon, same questions to you as I was mistakenly asking to @Mortarion previously. Though with that said, I do still need Mortarion to assist with Valius' stuff as well, specifically regarding how Constantine as the Forge Master interacts with Valius as the Forge-Adept both before and after his psyker activation and brainwashing/reprogramming.

[Sarpedon]

@BCTheEntity

You wanna pm me so we don't keep cluttering up the ooc?

[BCTheEntity]

@Sarpedon Yeah, I think I've publicly embarrassed myself enough for one day. I'll include @Mortarion too, so he can discuss how Constantine is actually involved, but I might end up vanishing immediately. It's pretty late for me over here.

[Sarpedon]

@BCTheEntity You do you.

[agentmanatee]

OK, So I have 0 going on on staurday, first post will go up then

@BCTheEntityHow's the character coming along?

[Sarpedon]

@agentmanatee But I'm busy Saturday! :P

[BCTheEntity]

@agentmanatee Reasonably enough. I appear to not be getting much response from @Mortarion, even though I actually do need to discuss how Constantine feels about Valius' state as some crazy arcano-tech hybrid. Like, in terms of his being Master of the Forge, as opposed to my mistaken prior belief regarding his psychic powers. Also, you, with regards to how the Chapter Master reacts to Valius' state, please.

[Mortarion]

@BCTheEntity Sorry, I've been rahter distracted, I am gonna read the ocnversation you had with Sarpedon now

[agentmanatee]

@BCTheEntityWell, Rokurou is nothing if not loving of his chapter. I'd say he would actively encourage the idea that Valius can be saved and made useful to the chapter. He hates to see any of his 'sons' die, and to such a cruel fate he would be sympathetic