[OOC] The Black Mountain Tournament: Trixi Vs. Gonad

[Fallenreaper]

I'll get a reply up tomorrow evening.

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper
What happens if Trixi is caught in a lightning storm?

[Fallenreaper]

Few questions:

1. I noticed there was no officially listed strength for Gonad, save vague mention of latent strength (some can be said for his speed too, though I could've missed both which is possible and apologies if I did.). How much power is he pressing into that kick out of curiosity? I know Trixi can't block it even with her baton taking the force, I assume, but it would still be a good idea to know how much force he's putting into each attack.

2. Some people, despite all humans portions suppose to be similar, are more legs than torso which can influence their range. I guessed, and still researching but the feet reach for average humans seem to be a few inches more than their arms, I'm assuming Gonad is equal portion in his figure for an average human?

3. Since he's doing a back spinning kick (assuming it's a straight one) at Trixi's middle, he'll still had have to lower his head and body some to adjust for balance and I'm assuming he took a step forward when he punched at her? Where would his foot be placed so I have an idea how much time/distance Trixi has between transition.

Also, out of respect, I feel I should mention this: I ask these questions was because Trixi was never going to stay put while she was dodging his arm, due to her style. So even when he's left hooking away from her, she's already moving again because she's expecting a counter attack from his other fist or the left hook coming at her from the other side. That's why she took one step, so you can thank Nicoli for that... I just didn't think writing it matter as that could've altered based on what happened with the punch and anything else. I hope I didn't break any arena mannerisms.

Also, if there's anything off with my posts feel free to point it out. As you might've spotted in my last match, I appear to struggle with physics a bit. Depending on your answer, it might take me a bit as today is really busy... >_<

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper
What happens if Trixi is caught in a lightning storm?

@Doc Doctor

That actually depends on her stage of power. Currently at this stage (her earliest) she's alright, and pretty close to human so if she was hit by lightning, her own electrical current/generator isn't able to over power and convert it into a use able source. Nor would she be able to create a negative charge enough to attract lightning to her position or channel it.

In her higher stages, she can channel and even use her own amps/voltage to manipulate it into seriously dangerous shit.

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper
1. Gonad's strength isn't really quantifiable. He's as strong as an unarmed man needs to be to fight on even ground with similarly skilled armed and armored opponents. Generally though, his blows can kill normal humans if delivered to the head and can put superhumans out of commission. He is stronger than any character that uses a weapon, as a point of fairness given his very low durability and combat range. Same case with speed. That doesn't mean he's too fast to hit or too strong to beat. It just means that he is a power oriented martial artist capable of fighting with knights and Vikings and shit.

2. Gonad's build is unusually dense and broad as well as tall, and his body\arm length proportions are scaled up from the reach of MMA fighter Jon Jones, so he has excellent reach for his height. Still far less than anybody with a sword, which is one of his biggest weaknesses.

3. He did not step forwards, it was not necessary. I made no mention of him doing that, and he did exactly as I said he did. Naturally he went through the motions required to launch a back kick, but I don't waste time going on about all of the confusing body mechanics. All those silly descriptions of pivots and multiple joints and diagonal clockwises are entirely moot imo. A straight punch is a straight punch, a roundhouse is a roundhouse, a spinning back kick is a spinning back kick. If I plan to do some wacky stiff-body kick that involves unlikely physics, I'll make a mention of it. Otherwise, it is just what the tin says. Trixi is however close she moved to Gonad in the first place, I never had him move after he stopped to prepare the punch. I'd assume they are pretty close together, and that's as much an answer as you can expect to get from me. I write like I'm telling a story, and as you have likely guessed I do not deal in specifics. Feel free to interpret things how you want, but when I describe something, I mean exactly what I describe. If you say she is close enough to kick Gonad in the back of the knee, then I'll take your word for it. Doesn't mean it will work, but I'll assume your character has been the physical requirements to attempt such a thing. The following image neatly sums up my roleplay style.


Whether or not she is moving, Gonad has great aim and is intending to give her the goods based upon wherever the heck she is. And like I described, Gonad is expecting Trixi to expect a counter attack, hence the fake backfist. There is something to be said for when one anticipates and plans for a move only to encounter something entirely different. When someone throws a surprise attack at you, you don't see it coming in slow motion. At any rate, if things are still confusing, here is a little video with a kick similar to Gonad's. Notice how flexible and normal the stance is and how the kick still has obvious power even with Uriah not going through the full motions.

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper
1. Gonad's strength isn't really quantifiable. He's as strong as an unarmed man needs to be to fight on even ground with similarly skilled armed and armored opponents. Generally though, his blows can kill normal humans if delivered to the head and can put superhumans out of commission. He is stronger than any character that uses a weapon, as a point of fairness given his very low durability and combat range. Same case with speed. That doesn't mean he's too fast to hit or too strong to beat. It just means that he is a power oriented martial artist capable of fighting with knights and Vikings and shit.

@Doc Doctor

Not the best example. Namely as there's numerous superheroes (which is what I'm assuming you mean by super, if not, please explain) in the comic book world so making a general statement like that isn't a very good basis for me. This is one way to read that phrase: So he could literally KO a super like THOR or the HULk with one punch? Sadly, I know for a fact Thor would laugh at Trixi and the Hulk she would only piss off at her current level...

2. Gonad's build is unusually dense and broad as well as tall, and his body\arm length proportions are scaled up from the reach of MMA fighter Jon Jones, so he has excellent reach for his height. Still far less than anybody with a sword, which is one of his biggest weaknesses.

@Doc Doctor

Alright. Helpful, thank you.

3. He did not step forwards, it was not necessary. I made no mention of him doing that, and he did exactly as I said he did. Naturally he went through the motions required to launch a back kick, but I don't waste time going on about all of the confusing body mechanics. All those silly descriptions of pivots and multiple joints and diagonal clockwises are entirely moot imo. A straight punch is a straight punch, a roundhouse is a roundhouse, a spinning back kick is a spinning back kick. If I plan to do some wacky stiff-body kick that involves unlikely physics, I'll make a mention of it. Otherwise, it is just what the tin says. Trixi is however close she moved to Gonad in the first place, I never had him move after he stopped to prepare the punch. I'd assume they are pretty close together, and that's as much an answer as you can expect to get from me.

@Doc Doctor

Noted for the future. However, some spinning back kicks hook, fully extend and aim at the side of the torso, etc. That's how some arts evolve and change, because a master took what was originally someone else's style then adapted it to their own. Which means one style's spinning back kick might not be the same as another.

I write like I'm telling a story, and as you have likely guessed I do not deal in specifics. Feel free to interpret things how you want, but when I describe something, I mean exactly what I describe. If you say she is close enough to kick Gonad in the back of the knee, then I'll take your word for it. Doesn't mean it will work, but I'll assume your character has been the physical requirements to attempt such a thing. The following image neatly sums up my roleplay style.

@Doc Doctor

Very well, but if our pictures differs too much than we're going to have to have a third party sort the mess. Mainly as I won't risk being called a cheater because I'm still learning and my picture might be completely different than yours. It's why I use the OoC to clear up details I don't understand or see. As for where Trixi is, I'll describe her position in my post each time so at least I have a reference IC to work off of.

He strode quickly towards Trixi, more a powerwalk than anything. His arms would remain loose at his sides, but were he to get within the woman's reach he'd then cock back his left fist as if he were going to slug her right in the gobhole. It could scarcely be more straightforward, something that was easily avoided and easily countered? Perhaps, but of all people Gonad knew the true power of simplicity.

When did he ever stop? No mention he stopped in this segment when he started to power walk hun, which is why I felt I had to ask and determine if he had moved forward while still walking.

Whether or not she is moving, Gonad has great aim and is intending to give her the goods based upon wherever the heck she is. And like I described, Gonad is expecting Trixi to expect a counter attack, hence the fake backfist. There is something to be said for when one anticipates and plans for a move only to encounter something entirely different. When someone throws a surprise attack at you, you don't see it coming in slow motion. At any rate, if things are still confusing, here is a little video with a kick similar to Gonad's. Notice how flexible and normal the stance is and how the kick still has obvious power even with Uriah not going through the full motions.

@Doc Doctor

Alright, though also keep in mind those batons can break, even shatter bone in the right hands. Demons aren't easy to damage in the end or play fair, though she wasn't expecting the kick to the middle drift. It doesn't mean she can't react to avoid it either at last second.

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper
1. You may have noticed there are no normal humans in this tournament. They are the superhumans I am referring to, since you know, Hulk can tear a continent in half.

2. Sure back kicks can be done differently, but I'm sure you can divine that Gonad's involves what I described. That's the whole hamburger right there.

3. Just go ahead and fight, I won't call you a cheater. You could scan over every single one of my past matches and see that I'm never the first to complain or argue. I don't see a mess, just a spinning back kick that couldn't be simpler. If there us a contention, resolve it I.C'ly. Take for example when Sigurd tried to chest bump Gonad backwards. Instead of telling DJ that such a thing was not possible up front, I implied it through Gonad's resistance of the move.

4. Whether he stopped or kept walking, it is true I did not specify. In such a case, you may go ahead and assume he'd keep in walking all the way to the Bahamas. That kick is still coming and it is coming from close range in the manner I described. He could be standing there if you want, that seems to be how I pictured it.

5. It is possible to avoid getting hit by a stray cat strapped to a jetpack at the last second, but that isn't easy if you don't see it coming. Trixi can certainly avoid the kick, but she'd need a good reason to do so.

But let's just try to wing it, huh? Stay I.C for a while and let the magic happen. A good fight is spontaneous with interruptions far and few between. You'll find I'm very reasonable, as I don't like lots of I.C stuff. I understand it is a ranked match and you want to be absolutely sure every nook and cranny is covered, but from my experience that sort of thing just leads to complications. Just look at the match between Chimera and Melon.

Easy come easy go, huh? Just have fun!

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper
1. You may have noticed there are no normal humans in this tournament. They are the superhumans I am referring to, since you know, Hulk can tear a continent in half.

@Doc Doctor

That helps as I also have several rps that use 'super' as a way to term levels like Superman, Hulk, etc. So the term is pretty hard to place accurately.

2. Sure back kicks can be done differently, but I'm sure you can divine that Gonad's involves what I described. That's the whole hamburger right there.

@Doc Doctor

Alright, fair enough.

3. Just go ahead and fight, I won't call you a cheater. You could scan over every single one of my past matches and see that I'm never the first to complain or argue. I don't see a mess, just a spinning back kick that couldn't be simpler. If there us a contention, resolve it I.C'ly. Take for example when Sigurd tried to chest bump Gonad backwards. Instead of telling DJ that such a thing was not possible up front, I implied it through Gonad's resistance of the move.

@Doc Doctor

I thought Sigurd was Melon's and Guzman was DJ's? However, I appreciate hints like that and will keep a look out for them. Though if you could, feel free to point it out because as I said, I'm here to improve. Namely as I can't be a good fighter if I can't understand basics well enough. And I can't get better without help.

4. Whether he stopped or kept walking, it is true I did not specify. In such a case, you may go ahead and assume he'd keep in walking all the way to the Bahamas. That kick is still coming and it is coming from close range in the manner I described.

@Doc Doctor

Alright, and thank you.

5. It is possible to avoid getting hit by a stray cat strapped to a jetpack at the last second, but that isn't easy if you don't see it coming. Trixi can certainly avoid the kick, but she'd need a good reason to do so.

@Doc Doctor

True, and can do.

But let's just try to wing it, huh? Stay I.C for a while and let the magic happen. A good fight is spontaneous with interruptions far and few between. You'll find I'm very reasonable. I don't like lots of I.C stuff.

@Doc Doctor

Alright, I'll try. Not really use to it in within the arena as I tend to ask a lot of questions the more I enjoy a fight, but I'll try to keep it to a lull if I can. >,<

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper

I forget names easily. Sigurd, Guzman, Harold, Fred. Same guy to me!

But enough of that. Let's groove.

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper

I forget names easily. Sigurd, Guzman, Harold, Fred. Same guy to me!

But enough of that. Let's groove.

@Doc Doctor

Working on it, already have an idea of how to sort of affect of his attack, possibly limiting it or diverting. I'm just trying to figure out how to word it and how plausible it is.

Add on

Apologies for not getting one up but it might take me another day to think. I'm trying to think of how she might be able to dodge and how, as sadly one hit and she's out from what it seems like according to your descriptions.

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper
Gonad is allowing her to recover though. That there is another big weakness of his. He's too honorable to kill in cold blood or harm enemies that are unable to fight back.

[MelonHead]

@Fallenreaper

I forget names easily. Sigurd, Guzman, Harold, Fred. Same guy to me!

But enough of that. Let's groove.

@Doc Doctor

You rang?

Good to know Sigurd has infiltrated your subconscious, it's only a matter of time.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead
Not in like, a sexual way though.

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead
Not in like, a sexual way though.

@Doc Doctor

Is there any other kind?

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead
... No, you're right. It is inevitable now, what will happen in the final match.

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper
Gonad is allowing her to recover though. That there is another big weakness of his. He's too honorable to kill in cold blood or harm enemies that are unable to fight back.

@Doc Doctor

Won't do her much good if her bones are cracked or busted, hun. Despite her tazing ability she's still in realistically human ranges and balanced because she lacks defense so being hit by something powerful enough to likely dent armor or break bone, no way logically I can argue she's going to be in any condition to do much for round two. I don't even think I can block his attacks without him breaking something of hers, which is a serious issue if their speeds are on par with each other.

AS a friend of mine said about me: I'm in for the enjoyment and entertainment of the fight, rather than winning. So I'm far too honorable to exploit a system that time and time again has been seen taken advantage of. I don't even like the BS of adrenaline for longer than a few posts unless my PC is suppose to live. Works great for rp style fights (which we don't determine the winner and tend to focus on outmaneuvering each other rather than stats) but not so much here I'm afraid.

[Fallenreaper]

@Doc Doctor Getting a post up here shortly, so I hope this works as my image might be a bit different since I started from the moment they got into each other's range, assuming they were directly facing each other before Gonad's and Trixi's first move. I'm also going by what is shown by the video as well.

[Doc Doctor]

@Fallenreaper
Gonad is a tough customer because he is a specialist at in-fighting. Getting into his range is a losing gambit in pretty much every circumstance, as all of his limbs function as weapons and it's virtually impossible to block or avoid one attack without exposing yourself to another. Trixi walked right up to Gonad like Guzman did, fearlessly. Brave, yes, but not tactically sound. Never play your opponent's game, is the best advice I can give.

[Fallenreaper]

@Fallenreaper
Gonad is a tough customer because he is a specialist at in-fighting. Getting into his range is a losing gambit in pretty much every circumstance, as all of his limbs function as weapons and it's virtually impossible to block or avoid one attack without exposing yourself to another. Trixi walked right up to Gonad like Guzman did, fearlessly. Brave, yes, but not tactically sound. Never play your opponent's game, is the best advice I can give.

@Doc Doctor

No matter what you do in a close range fighting, you open yourself up to another attack as there's no way to cover every single possible angle when it comes to an attack. That wouldn't make the fight very fair if you could really.

[Vordak]

@Fallenreaper
Gonad is a tough customer because he is a specialist at in-fighting. Getting into his range is a losing gambit in pretty much every circumstance, as all of his limbs function as weapons and it's virtually impossible to block or avoid one attack without exposing yourself to another. Trixi walked right up to Gonad like Guzman did, fearlessly. Brave, yes, but not tactically sound. Never play your opponent's game, is the best advice I can give.

@Doc Doctor

Let us both win our matches - and then, is shall contend that.

or not

'cause throwing smokebombs in your face