[OOC] Black Mountain Tournament: Sigurd vs Gigue

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead

Option 2 also leaves Gigue face downwards, so in theory, he can get up to his feet quicker than Sigurd and just bum rush him with the knife as he's getting up; especially dangerous considering Sigurd is completely disarmed. Option three still leaves both of them grounded, but it also frees up both of Sigurd's arms without giving Gigue a definitive advantage.

@Vordak

Option three is my preferred move at the moment, for one it exploits an earlier wound (the left leg is fucked up) and it doesn't put Sigurd in a position where it's his helmet vs the knife. However Gigue could probably stab Sigurd's right arm as he fell, which would be unpleasant.

Screw it, might as well go with that, it's not like Sigurd is blessed with options but it's still better than I expected. If you'd had Gigue clinch with his right leg rather than rest it lovingly on Sigurd's shoulder Sigurd would be pretty fucked, that's how I dealt with superstrength in the Kanitah vs Fury fight, you can't refute the strength of your opponent but if your strength is comparable then your character's leg grip should be sufficient to keep them pinned.

[Vordak]

Eeyup. That's pretty much my plan as of now.

[MelonHead]

Hell if Sigurd comes out of this with a knife wound to the arm I'd consider that a success, plus Gigue deserves that much. Going to potentially suck for Gigue if he falls on his side though, with a longsword stuck in it.

[Vordak]

@MelonHead Say, is the push done before or after Gigue had put his foot down on Sigurd's shoulder?

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead Say, is the push done before or after Gigue had put his foot down on Sigurd's shoulder?

@Vordak

Depends when he did it. Sigurd's waiting until Gigue's 'sit up' almost brings him vertical to throw him because it's when he's most top heavy.

I would say probably after. It's not really mentioned in my post because Sigurd's arm is strong enough to lift Gigue's entire weight almost twice over, so his shoulder being 'clamped down' is sort of inconsequential.

[Vordak]

The solution was rather simple: bending his right leg, he'd place its heel square on the man's left shoulder, pinning the it to the ground and having his leg block Sigurd's stone arm form reaching over to protect his own body. Then, a situp, during which Gigue would slip his right hand underneath his tuxedo

Vordak

The chronology was that Gigue first puts his foot down and then does the situp, so i'll take that as a yes. This means we're still going to tango.

[MelonHead]

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The chronology was that Gigue first puts his foot down and then does the situp, so i'll take that as a yes. This means we're still going to tango.

@Vordak

To be fair I'm still highly confused about that move. Gigue landed on Sigurd's upper-torso and put his right leg on Sigurd's shoulder? He must be a contortionist considering how tall he is, that would be incredibly destabilising, as his weight would already be skewed to his left. It wouldn't take much from Sigurd to throw him.

[Vordak]

Not quite upper torso - just below the solar plexus, leaving about a ribcage's length between his hip and Sigurd's shoulder. But yeah, that was a hasty move on my part. Not on Gigue's though - i've got the sleekest was possible to get him out of this situation, and seeing as he's supposed to be an analytical mastermind, formerly being the head of a large industrial syndicate's security, as well as an accomplished wrestler, it'd be in character to say that he planned for the fancy move i'm going to bust out.

[MelonHead]

Well, this doesn't sound great for Sigurd but it should be interesting at least.

[Vordak]

As for now though, i'm off to sleep. Will think a bit about the move tomorrow, revise my post a few times - make sure it all goes smoothly.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead@Vordak

*Cough*

[MelonHead]

@Vordak Your character has a sword stuck in his left leg.

[Vordak]

Aye. It's not like he's hopping around on it.

[MelonHead]

Aye. It's not like he's hopping around on it.

@Vordak

Well, his move did seem somewhat reliant upon him landing on one knee. I'm not saying he would necessarily fall over, but the fact that it never even comes up in your post is a little strange? I didn't think Gigue was -that- badass.

[Vordak]

I was a bit confused a to what exactly i should describe, and since it isn't of utmost relevance, i didn't go into detail. At this point, it's already assumed that Gigue is going to tough out spikes of pain and then collapse right after the half minute mark is reached.

If he rolls onto his knee, it the pommel would probably hit the ground, and in fact, almost wrench the sword out of the wound; so that's why i described it as 'hanging loose' in the wound. But i wasn't quite certain.

[MelonHead]

I was a bit confused a to what exactly i should describe, and since it isn't of utmost relevance, i didn't go into detail. At this point, it's already assumed that Gigue is going to tough out spikes of pain and then collapse right after the half minute mark is reached.

@Vordak

Actually I've had a re-read and you haven't ignored the blade as much as I thought. I mean, the pain of the move Gigue just pulled would be pretty terrible, but if we're just saying adrenaline and experience is blocking most of it out then I suppose it doesn't matter.

So to clarify, Gigue pushed off Sigurd's left shoulder even as he started to move, and then spun so that he landed on Sigurd's right (how far down? In line with his knees) with his back roughly to him? I'm not entirely sure what you mean about Sigurd retrieving his weapon, as the hilt would be on the other side of Gigue and barely even visible it wouldn't be all that realistic.

[Vordak]

Gigue would be right next to him, his left knee about half a foot away from Sigurd's side and in line with his chest. And yeah, it's a bit confusing, but Gigue has his left side turned towards Sigurd, not his back - however, the positioning is such, that his back will be what Sigurd is seeing. Its as if two people were laying down next to each other, and one sat up - the other will see their back.

[MelonHead]

Gigue would be right next to him, his left knee about half a foot away from Sigurd's side and in line with his chest. And yeah, it's a bit confusing, but Gigue has his left side turned towards Sigurd, not his back - however, the positioning is such, that his back will be what Sigurd is seeing. Its as if two people were laying down next to each other, and one sat up - the other will see their back.

@Vordak

Alrighty

[MelonHead]

You might have misunderstood the part about the kick, that was more Sigurd mentally preparing himself to react to a certain move as opposed to any physical action, as all of his actual actions were simply him fleeing as quickly as possible (including dragging his legs away).

Also not quite sure what you mean about it being hard to see coming, the knife is in Gigue's right hand in my understanding, he would have to reach over and turn his entire upper-body leftward to strike at Sigurd as he escaped, seems pretty telegraphed to me.

[Vordak]

I meant that it would be hard to see the actual knife itself, not the strike; perhaps it was a bit clumsily worded, but that was the intention. And no, the part about the kick was pretty clear; no misunderstanding here.