[OOC] Black Mountain Tournament: Sigurd vs Gigue

[MelonHead]

I'll probably be able to post within twelve hours or so of any post you make, depending on what time it's down. I do have an essay due Thursday I need to deal with, but for the weekend at least I can speed post a little.

[Vordak]

I'll have a post up then within the next 12 hours.

[MelonHead]

@Vordak Goddammit, if you're really that unable to post you really shouldn't have entered a tournament.

[Drifting Pollen]

To be fair, it's not always possible to anticipate exactly how busy one will be... Though it has been a while.

Also, we're looking for an edit rather than a post right now, just in case anyone was getting that mixed up.

[Vordak]

To hell with it; i've been trying to keep a consistent quality of writing in my posts, but it is slowing me down major. I'll have to drop it in favor of posting whatever i come up with on my first go, rather than subjecting posts to my usual nitpicking and constant reviews.

[Vordak]

@Melonhead Edit's done.

I'd like to think i've got what it takes to keep this at a steady pace at least.

[MelonHead]

Alright, I'll try and maintain the same standard.

[MelonHead]

So uh, what happened to the axe? Did it just fly away? Is it stuck in Gigue's arm?

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

It might've fallen into the stream, since it hadn't stuck.

[Vordak]

I wanted to have it ricochet off the bone and fall out upon Gigue's landing, so it would be lying on the ground somewhere near the edge of the stream.

[MelonHead]

So Gigue literally gives no shits he might have just had an axe thrown at him? That's fine, but if Sigurd does now throw the axe and Gigue reacts I'm going to be a little confused as to the reason.

[Vordak]

He walked off the line of attack and flanked Sigurd, so yeah, he does give no shits about a throw that would miss. Plus, why would Sigurd throw the axe at point-blank anyways?

[MelonHead]

He walked off the line of attack and flanked Sigurd, so yeah, he does give no shits about a throw that would miss. Plus, why would Sigurd throw the axe at point-blank anyways?

@Vordak

Because it would be really hard to miss? Lol. I thought your character wasn't supposed to be that fast anyway, transitioning from a mid-range palm strike to apparently being within striking range of Sigurd's body in the time it takes Sigurd to literally shake his right arm is pretty fast.

[Vordak]

@MelonHead

The palm strike doesn't generate any momentum, as it was just the arm moving, without any power behind the strike. The weight of his body was already shifted to his front leg, so he could immediately transition into the passing step. And lastly, Gigue started moving the very moment he saw Sigurd move away, as he would be reacting to his opponent's actions, not anything else.

Gigue would be already in motion by the time, so even if he would register the movement of Sigurd's arm - which would be partially obscured by the man's own body from his point of view - he could just carry on with the step and put himself out of range.

[MelonHead]

It's still a chronology of your character, compared to Sigurd:

jumping, landing, turning, stepping forward, throwing out a palm strike, stepping forward again, compared to
throwing, stepping sideways, stepping back, feinting axe throw.

The axe throw feint is launched at the same time Sigurd pulls back his shield and your character throws out a palm strike, so I seriously doubt his entire body has somehow moved out the way of the axe's possible flight path by the time that feint happens unless Gigue's palm strike was actually some kind of running move, regardless I seriously doubt Gigue is so quick that he's beside Sigurd before he can shake his arm, as that is your follow up to the palm strike which was aimed at Sigurd's outstretched shield, and therefore some distance away.

Not that it matters very much, but your character isn't really remarked to be exceedingly agile or fast, if he were I would have to ask how it was fair that he also has strength greater than every other character in the tournament and an infallible magic shield to boot.

[Vordak]

The axe throw feint is launched at the same time Sigurd pulls back his shield and your character throws out a palm strike, so I seriously

@MelonHead

My impression was that the step back was initiated as a reaction to the strike, not prior to it. Guess that's why the chronology is off.

[MelonHead]

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My impression was that the step back was initiated as a reaction to the strike, not prior to it. Guess that's why the chronology is off.

@Vordak

The step back is in response to your character stepping forward and winding up his arm, but it's the pull back of the shield that saw the attack hit thin air. It's very possible for Sigurd to step back, pull his shield back, and feint an axe throw in one movement, in fact, the act of pulling back the shield would make it easier. Give it a try.

Therefore I'd expect your character to be pretty much in front of Sigurd and nearly wide open as he feinted with the axe, if he had loosed the weapon and your character relied simply upon speed to move out the way it likely would have hit him.

[Vordak]

@MelonHead He never wound up his arm. The palm strike wasn't ever intended to carry power: the emphasis would be only on speed, and winding up would only waste time. Though in the end, we're both stuck with the current chronology, so this discussion doesn't carry any relevance.

EDIT: though i guess there was the act of shifting his weight to the front foot, but this is an action hardly noticeable from a frontal point of view.

[MelonHead]

Your character struck across his body with his left arm by necessity, where-as the right could thrust forward at the shield quickly the left would be painfully obvious. Not that it matters, even if your character had just stood there with his arms beside himself Sigurd still would have pulled back, as ranged combat gives him the advantage at the moment.

[Vordak]

I did in fact intend it to be a leading arm strike, not a crossing one.

his weight would slightly shift to the ball of his now leading foot, the left

Vordak