[OOC] Black Mountain Tournament: Sigurd vs Gigue

[MelonHead]

That being said there's no reason why Gigue should take the sword strike at all really, he's in a fine position to just move out the way of it. It's more of a spacing move on Sigurd's part rather than a legitimate attempt to kill Gigue. But if Gigue just jumps on Sigurd I can only assume he would be getting a pretty shit wound for not so much gain, because Sigurd's arms will be in the way of all his follow ups.

Still, I can tell your heart is stuck on the ass slam, and it is a hilariously unorthodox move, so we can hash out a compromise on 'just tank the sword strike' situation if you want.

[Vordak]

@MelonHead Aye, i'd like to.

[MelonHead]

Alright, so Gigue continues his original plan and dives onto Sigurd. As he's attempting to actually hurt him I'd assume he's at least attempting to fall from a foot or two above Sigurd's torso, the blade would probably meet him about half-way through his jump, so perhaps half or maybe a third of the way down the blade as it's at about 60-70 degrees, what part of Gigue would it hit at that point assuming Sigurd's original target while he was break dancing was basically directly in the middle?

[Vordak]

If it hits him as he's descending, the sword would probably hit impact across the thigh, as Gigue would start pulling his knees up towards his chest at that point.

[MelonHead]

OK, the thigh is a good target for a sword-cut so that definitely counts against Gigue in this case. If the sword had hit Gigue in the waist coupled with his body weight, armour and momentum I would have expected a gouging cut of some moderate severity and then Sigurd's sword would fold back on itself and probably fly out of his hand or hurt his wrist or w/e. However hitting the thigh I can see it cutting and then slipping, making more of a mess in general, it could even severe an artery (my human biology is pretty shit, I know the main femoral artery is on the inside of the leg but I think it has some branches on the outside.)

However in our immediate circumstances Gigue only needs one of his legs, so it might not matter that much if he suffers a wound to his left leg.

So, my compromise is Gigue suffers a moderate bleeding wound to his leg which is stifled somewhat by his close fitting armour, Sigurd's sword either flies out of his hand or gets sandwiched between the two of them and he suffers a sprained wrist (Sigurd wears an iron chest plate so it wouldn't really do anything to him) the rest of Gigue's move can go ahead as he wishes (with his kicks and whatnot) but bear in mind Sigurd's left arm is over his torso so it won't be a clean rib crushing ass-slam of epic proportion. In either scenario Sigurd's right arm will be in the way of a kick (presumably with the right leg, as the left would be injured), but Gigue is strong enough to probably fuck up Sigurd's arm when he blocks with it anyway.

End result, Gigue has a wound that impairs his mobility and potentially bleeds him a little (though not likely to be fatal) so perhaps a two inch deep but very messy gouging wound on his thigh. Sigurd either loses his sword or it gets sandwiched and sprains his wrist (not to mention he will take whatever damage is incurred from the ass slam in my next post.)

Seem fair? If not we can always just have Pollen judge how much damage the cut incurs.

[Vordak]

Yup, i've no objections. Though after a bit of poking around medical charts in google images, it seems like the outside of the thigh is mostly veins and few arteries.

[MelonHead]

Yep, I had a little refresher and that's basically the case, would be a little stupid to have arteries on the outside of the thigh when you think about it from an evolutionary perspective.

Still, big nasty cut on the leg is gunna bleed a lot, and make moving it around a bitch, should be a fair trade for tanking out the attack.

What would you prefer to happen with the sword? Fly out of Sigurd's hand or fold underneath Gigue as he lands?

[Vordak]

Fold underneath, of course. All that limits Sigurd's range of movements plays to my cause. >:3

[MelonHead]

Fold underneath, of course. All that limits Sigurd's range of movements plays to my cause. >:3

@Vordak

I doubt it would make much difference in the end, Sigurd knows when to discard a useless tool, he literally frizbee'd his shield away the moment he was lifted. Sigurd sheds equipment faster than any of my characters, and its a trait most of them share.

[Doc Doctor]

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I doubt it would make much difference in the end, Sigurd knows when to discard a useless tool, he literally frizbee'd his shield away the moment he was lifted. Sigurd sheds equipment faster than any of my characters, and its a trait most of them share.

@MelonHead

Sounds like they should get into the porn business.

[MelonHead]

@Vordak Come on mang, this fight has already dragged out way past the time limit and it definitely wouldn't be in your favour to get a judge decision now, get flailing around.

[MelonHead]

@Vordak I see you posting on Darth's GCL thing rather than here.

[Vordak]

Don't worry, while i don't have my post for this thread ready, neither is my CS for the GCL finished. I'm procrastinating equally on both. :P

[MelonHead]

Don't worry, while i don't have my post for this thread ready, neither is my CS for the GCL finished. I'm procrastinating equally on both. :P

@Vordak

I'm really divided on the GCL thing, on the one hand Darth seems to know what he's doing and has a good system (for the most part, some things are stupid like the obvious advantages for ranged magical combat over physicality and some other funky spell effects) but on the other hand I don't like the ethics of that site and some of the participants seem like grade-A douche-bags, even by combat-RPG standards.

I'm still heavily tempted though, just to see how far I can get with a character who is quite literally just amazing at throwing stones.

[Vordak]

some things are stupid like the obvious advantages for ranged magical combat over physicality and some other funky spell effects

@MelonHead

Mind pointing me towards that info? I've only given the rules a few cursory read and i didn't catch that vibe myself.

But hey, getting a few axes thrown at me inspired me: now i'm going for a character that harasses their opponent at a range with moderate power attacks and forces them up close, where he can end them with burst damage cqc strikes. A middle ground between being a bear trap in human skin and an accomplished rock slinger.

[MelonHead]

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Mind pointing me towards that info? I've only given the rules a few cursory read and i didn't catch that vibe myself.

@Vordak

Check the physical stats, there's a limit of 30mph sprint speed (without magical effects) guns are obviously banned (the most effective of physical/non magical ranged weaponry) yet magic with effects of similar lethality are perfectly fine because they're slower (I've seen magic that essentially ignores armour, magic that requires no preparation but has a 'cd' time which is really no consequence, and more, there's no strictly defined T1 prep system in play). Not like it matters if no one is using guns, because ranged magic just becomes the new firearm at whatever speed it's then capped at. I'd have to read more accepted CS's to point out a real trend, but as it stands ranged magic is basically a must have to be competitive.

[Vordak]

Woah. That's hardly superhuman. I think somebody should just point that out to him.

[MelonHead]

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But hey, getting a few axes thrown at me inspired me: now i'm going for a character that harasses their opponent at a range with moderate power attacks and forces them up close, where he can end them with burst damage cqc strikes. A middle ground between being a bear trap in human skin and an accomplished rock slinger.

@Vordak

Hah, sounds like we might end up with similar characters then. My fighting style has usually involved me picking away at opponents to force them onto my ground and then taking advantage of whatever wounds they've suffered to finish them up close. I'm thinking of entering a low level earth elementalist who runs around throwing rocks basically.

[MelonHead]

Woah. That's hardly superhuman. I think somebody should just point that out to him.

@Vordak

I know, it's literally a touch above how fast Usain Bolt can actually run.

[Vordak]

I think he should just lower the projectile cap from 400 fps to 100 fps, so peak human would be enough to dodge reliably. As for rushdown potential, it can be gained through the use of abilities and powers other than speed. so that doesn't really need fixing.