[OOC] New Dawn Rising

[Inkdrop]

I really like my nation, but I might pitch in a Theocratic cult state somewhere just to put a burr in everyone's sides.

[Monkeypants]

Oh my. Mad max ftw.

[Jig]

Some of those things are specific unit types. What you want is actual weapon types. Browse peoples stuff for ideas, ask individuals about stuff you're interested in.

And let me make sure you understand that you do not need super military knowledge for this RP. Its not stat based so there's nothing to worry about.

@Monkeypants

Yeah, I'm glad. NRP's sometimes demand a huge amount of knowledge so I kinda appreciate the freedom of this one. I'm thinking that Jodesia has a long history of just sitting in their goddamn fortress and shagging until the enemy gets cold and goes home, so they'll be defensively-focussed. East Jodesia is probably not under threat anyway, because nobody in their right mind would want it (though increasing airborne power might make it more attainable nowadays), so I'm mostly thinking about West Lamonia.

West Lamonia is basically one huge cash-cow for the Empire and I guess it's in everybody's interest that it remain intact - the only threat it would realistically face would be nations who simply don't want it to exist at all (probably not too many, as it's so eager to sell itself), or, more likely, people who'd quite like to have it for themselves. Therefore, we're talking probably high levels of defence against an invasion force. The military presence is huge but much of it is simply domestic and I'll probably look to (ahem, on this one instance) 1930's Italy and Germany for some inspiration - all the macho compensating-for-something-ness is something I definitely want to capture.

Threats along the lines of actually capturing the island mean that aggressors can't simply walk troops in, so I feel that defending the harbours and high anti-air presence (this would depend on how prevalent airforces are in the setting, I guess) are the key defensive strategies. I'm just not sure, to be honest, how you stop a boat landing with troops and taking your base or how you tackle planes/airships. My military history is Advance Wars for the GBA/DS, and you stopped planes by buying Anti-Air Tanks for 8000G and they'd tackle them just fine and you stopped boats of troops and tanks from landing on your base by either blocking the shores with your own units or having artillery nearby to just blast the invaders on your turn. Not sure either of those apply in this scenario. So how do you stop a boat from turning up in your harbour? Or is that not even a thing that happens? My other reference is the opening seen from Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, and, again, I don't feel that's the best resource.

Note: I don't want to make myself invincible. It's just reasonable that the place would be prepared to put up a credible fight against credible threats. No use bringing a knife to a gun-fight and with my canon of knowledge, I'd probably bring a bubble wand.

[Sigma]

Updated the map, changed one of my NPCs and added a new one.

[Nerevarine]

I dunno what the gray nation between Nevarine's lands (within striking range of both he and I) would be, but I think it should be a thing.

@Shorticus

Thailand?

[Shorticus]

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Thailand?

@Nerevarine

Well, arr, but I don't have anything in mind for what the place in the post apocalypse is like.

[Monkeypants]

Oh my, another ns with many emphasis on "best of the best"..

Anyways, inkdrop, our nations relations. From the NAU viewpoint I can see securing peace with Atlantic powers being a must. They wouldn't give up a kidney for peace but there wouldn't be any real push for violence or conquest.

Stability is strongly desired, especially with the nasty grogar threat on the horizon.

[Inkdrop]

Oh my. Mad max ftw.

@Monkeypants

I might have to do that now.

I also like the sound of that because my nation could potentially sever ties between Europe and NA if they wanted too. They do hold a key strategic position over the Atlantic.

I also am implementing new NS sheet changes. Just some maps, and some error corrections.

[Monkeypants]

@Jig now this isn't necessarily for this RP but if you ever get a chance to watch real pacific war footage from ww2 or Iraq war footage you can see sort of how modern combat works. (reason why I say pacific war for navy as that's as close as you'll get to modern navy warfare as we got.) its not like in games where machine gun > rifle or plane > tank, AA tank > plane, tank > AA tank.

Using the whole gangster 30's approach is a definite easy way to go about it and wouldn't clash at all with the lifestyle you portray your people to have. Also keep in mind that nations like a NAU value stability, see my above post as to why.. Mast grogar..)

Also, never devalue the power of treaties. Lets say you had a defensive pact with the NAU, an unprovoked attack on your nation would be a potential act of war. So not only would you have the Jodesian nation declaring war, but you'd have the NAU as well. Think NATO.

Now you can do that with any willing nation, I'm just using mine cause its easy to reference.

[Sigma]

@Monkeypants Speaking of Grogar. I have added more info on them, the different strains that make up their race.(Still incomplete though)

[Taeryn]

Hai?

Claim (Greece Area)

UHSR

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The Union of Hellenic Socialist Republics

GOVERNMENT TYPE
The Union operates, on a base level, on the principles of a multi-party Marxist-Leninist Socialist Republic. These individual republics are drawn together into a "State of Union" where the "Federal" and far more powerful organs of government, typically dominated by the largest worker's party, perform most higher level functions such as foreign policy, defence, infrastructure and large scale social programs. The Head of State is known as the Archon, who sits at the head of the Concordia - a body made up of elected representatives of the syndicates and worker's parties, while the secondary and more numerous forms of government are undertaken in the Forum of the Republic's, effectively a parliamentary system allotted by voting subdivisions per republic. The Tertiary forms of government are local governments who organise and in turn administrate low-key matters and their smaller sub-divisions under a degree of control from the central bureaucracy.

HEAD OF GOVERNMENT
Archon Athanasios Eliades

RACE(S)
Idealised Hellenics as an "elite", plenty of average humans and whatever little other groups there are out there.

POPULATION
Extrapolating on a basis of using real world data Post-WW2 and fluffing it a little for that right kind of feel, I'll put 93.5 Million down here.

CULTURE & RELIGION
The Cataclysm and its ensuing changes lead to bloody wars of conquest in the area that became home to the UHSR. The primary "winner" in these areas were considered "Hellenic's" or offshoots of the minor genetic variation that had arisen out of Greece. With a myriad of states having a small elite claiming to hail from a storied region, even if some stories were lost, began a cultural revival, bringing near lost and and even more ancient stories of Hellenic Civilization to the fore. The Greek Pantheon enjoyed a resurgence. The ensuing creation of the UHSR unified these variants of a cultural thread, and although relegating the Pantheon once again, largely, to history, there is a strong theme of Hellenic Civilization, rather than race, being so ancient as to be indestructible even through an end of the world. Such cultural ideas backed up by a grass roots revolution has seen a relatively strong culture willing to fit into the confines of the socialist system, and willing to act as somewhat of a caretaker of other, less fortunate groups and civilizations that come to rest within the Union.

PRE-CATACLYSM TECHNOLOGY
Despite their long time at peace, both the Greek and Turkish Republic long shared an enmity for each other. In the new age of technology, many defensive weapons emplacements were built. While many fell to disrepair or sabotage, a few do remain and are carefully tended to by Preservation Corps of the People's Army. The UHSR also possesses a small number of pre-cataclysm machines designed for mining, potentially deep beyond the current abilities of typical modern means, however, the UHSR lacks the data for a suitable site or the vast supply of radioactives to power them.

HISTORY
When the European Union fell to ash and the world continued to slide into ruin, the racial offshoot, largely wealthy and influential, at one point amusingly labelled "Hellenics" for their pursuit of the ancient greek idea's of beauty and form, became a dominant political force - and being not quite human, more adept at living in a world that had quickly begun to fall apart. The new racial elite quickly came to power in Greece with promises of salvation, and individual groups also waged their own private wars in the near east, bringing the shaky Turkish state to its knees and spreading as far as Syria and Iraq. The New Hellenic cultural revival that came after the bloodshed is regarded as somewhat of a renaissance, at least by the Hellenic States. Despite everything, however, Hellenic rule was far from the salvation promised, and a world where their old wealth now mattered little combined with dissent both amongst the elite and the people resulted in a bloody series of civil wars that ended with the foundation of the Socialist Republic of Hellas, followed by Thrakia and Ionia, and consequently the foundation of the Union. Concerns turned from warfare to domestic stability and appropriating the now tried and tested Techno-Green policies of Franco-Iberia.

In the years since, The Union of Hellenic Socialist Republics has sought to unify the new pan-hellenic culture and safeguard less fortunate groups whilst pursuing a near-communist internal agenda, though largely without the ensuing terror. Hellenic intervention in Iraq and the Caucasus brought peace to the embattled regions and in turn brought socialism to the fires of the Levant. With Territorial expansion largely secondary, a re-evaluation and re-codification of "Hellenic Culture" was brought to the fore, bringing together all the wonders of the old world with the newly integrated cultures and forming a dialectic around which the Union's noveau Marxist-Leninist ideals could truly work, ultimately forming a doctrine of essentially holding that Hellenic Civilization empowered the worker and an empowered worker had no limits. The deft marriage of a dominant culture, and one that was even an undercurrent in elements of many others, with a socialist dialectic that would not end up in conflict with itself largely began to resolve issues in the Union, allowing both the government to function effectively and spread a new sense of worth and belonging in the populace.

As such, the Union has become an odd hybrid of "idealised" Hellenic civilization fused with a strong central state complimented by a varied and protected populace, all backed up by the agenda of the people having ownership over all possible, with a growing syndicate tradition all but ensuring most notable industries are state or people owned. Despite the associations with a growing terror and the suppression of thought and expression, the fusion of these factors and the plethora of political parties has lead to a balance of state, people and culture, though at the cost of some freedoms and the marginality of some groups.

MILITARY
The Army of the Union is comprised of two branches and its subdivisions, that is, the Citizens Army, itself subdivided between the Proletarian Guard, The Citizen's Air Corps and the larger Citizen's Army itself, As well as The Citizen's Navy.

The Citizen's Army is the lion's share of military capacity in the UHSR, and is made up of any willing to serve, with a caveat allowing conscription during times of emergency or war. Consequently, there is a tradition of serving for one year in a military capacity, though enough exclusions apply to prevent such matters becoming a concern for civil disobedience. As such, the Citizen's Army is largely made up of trained career soldiers, and would form the core element of any times of conscription. They are as such, trained soldiers built with a sense towards civil duty, protection of the revolution and guardianship of hellenic civilization. The Proletarian Guard are an advancement of this, though largely considered "elite" and consequently better trained and better armed. The Proletarian Guard as such also tends to control all "special divisions" in the armed forces for better control. The Citizen's Air Corps, as it's name implies, controls and deploys all aerial assets under the greater instruction of the Citizen's Army or Proletarian Guard.

The Citizens Navy is the smaller aspect of the Armed Forces of the Union. Most of its concern is in coastal security and as such, brown water operations rather than blue water, with many of its ships suited to operating in coastal waters or the Mediterranean. The Citizen's Navy does however possess blue water capability and a number of larger ships built as part of its defensive and power projection evaluations.

OTHER
The UHSR comprises Greece a sliver of Albania, Much of Bulgaria, Some of Romania, Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Israel.

[Inkdrop]

What're we waiting on before things can happen?

I'm being impatient. Sorry.

[Shorticus]

I haven't posted my national sheet yet. I've got some more class work to do today (gonna work on an observational study for my psych research class today).

[Jig]

Did some tweakery to my sheet. Most notably adapted it from an Empire to an Absolute Monarchy, because I kinda felt it worked better. Also added some notable people. Hooray!1!!

[Monkeypants]

More monarchies!!!

Just wanna make sure ya'll understand there is only one king of the world,

The one true king

[Sigma]

@Taeryn Excellent sheet! You're good on moving it.

@Inkdrop And that's ok. IC will be starting soon. I aim either today or tomorrow.

[Inkdrop]

@Sigmawhat kind of posting order will we use when that happens?

[Sigma]

@Inkdrop No order. It's just whoever can make a post.

[Willy Vereb]

Yeah, freeform is the best way to do these in general. Unless it's one of those micro managed NRPs.

[Sigma]

@Monkeypants@Isotope Got a question, do the NAU and Casadia often sell military equipment? I ask because I was thinking the UPC remnants making use of a mix of NAU, local and Cascadian gear. Which in turn are looted by hostile rebels and grogar.