Ace of Hearts

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Nyt, Didge and other lads,

I get what you are trying to accomplish but it's pretty shit of an idea to try to debate someone who said he doesn't want to - and proven hour isn't smart enough to - debate. I'd quit it until the other party matures a bit.

>imblyign

Yes I know the irony of me writing this fug off

@Andreyich

we defeated nazis in the 40s with calm and reasoned debate

cry about the chinese being better than you some more, you fucking baby

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Well, I mean, if it wasn't plainly obvious I'm just going to back out. No point in arguing with someone who doesn't put much effort into making a thoughtful response.

have a good day.

@Nytem4re

cool. you might get off on debating like, people who think what japan/the US even did to vietnam was right, but i'm not down for that

hope u have a good one too. crack open some cold ones with the bois.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Yo can we silence/maim/kill commies, anarchists, and others on the far-left because of their history with wanting me/my people/my family dead, as well as their history in restricting my freedoms and condemning millions to unhappiness and suffering? They're inherently dangerous, so me coming across one would be like a self-defense situation, but they've already have made the first move by professing themselves as communists, so I would have to run at the with a melee weapon or pick them off from afar with some sort of firearm. Is that cool?

@Didgeridont

Why do they want your family dead my man.

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@SleepingSilence

MR GORBACHEV

@Nytem4re what is your argument then

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@Ace of Hearts

Yeah, and so are the far-left, but I only see you trashing the far-right. There are plenty of people who have shitty ideologies, (namely the far left on the other side of the spectrum who believe they need to kill off everyone who don't agree with them)

I mean, let's pretend you somehow did allow nazis to be arrested on the basis that "they're gonna do bad"

Okay sure. So are you going to recruit facebook to spy on each and every one of their users? Are you going to force google to single out users who search keywords like fascism and nazis? I mean, it's possible, the NSA did it, but we all saw how much of a shitstorm that was.

Are we going to go after every single ideology we don't like?

I mean, not to mention scouring the internet is a very tedious job and you're only really going to catch the very outspoken ones and then drive the rest underground, to which the ideology will still exist.

Also, the american government once discriminated against basically every non-white, but I don't see you calling for all of their heads.

@Nytem4re

Can we stop equating DELIBERATELY DESTRUCTIVE ideologies with just a simple "you don't like it"

also,

once?

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>tfw the only other super leftist in here says morality is relative

i truly am alone

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I mean, it wasn't too long ago that supporting gay rights and non-white rights were seen as ignorance. There was a time where African Americans were actively being denied their rights to free speech by those who assumed they were just trash.

The entire point of the 1st amendment is to try and prevent things like this from happening (it still happens regardless, showing that it only really matters when people enforce the constitution) because people are not objective.

I'd argue you'd be enabling more civil rights to be taken away, out of a misguided belief that you could actually destroy an ideology by preventing people legally from talking about it.

@Nytem4re

I know, because supporting the rights for non rich straight white men to exist/have agency is the exact same thing as supporting the rights for people to believe that other groups are sub-human and shouldn't be allowed to interbreed with their precious genes? Are you fucking serious right now?

It's this kind of willful blindness to the intentions and consequences of these beliefs that create these fucking clusterfucks. Nazi ideology is one hate, and that will lead to violence when allowed to, as shown yesterday, when a woman died in a white supremacist terrorist attack. It has no validity.

These sort of extremist ideologies lead to the holocaust, jim crow, imperialist japanese expansion, and your own country's destruction via.

Do you find this to be an acceptable risk? For extremist thought to go from the shadows and straight into unchallenged general acceptance? Because it's "wrong" to make extremist ideologies illegal?

I will not tolerate the people and ideas that would place a pink triangle on me and send me to a fucking camp, if they could. It doesn't matter if they can't, either. it's extremely disrespectful for anyone to insinuate that I, or anyone else who would be the victims of these hateful philosophies, should have to 'logical debate' with these maniacs.

fuck you.

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Supporting free speech=nazis?

I suppose we should crack down on the communists then, or else we're all totalitarian socialist scum.

I let global warming deniers say as they please, doesn't mean I believe them or collaborate with them.

Allowing people to say as they please doesn't mean I support their views at all. That's a broken premise. Do I support your views of denying nazis/far-right people the right to speak? No, but I'm not trying to actively block your free speech. Does that make me your supporter then? A collaborator?
And it would be pretty ironic if I was a nazi, since I'm viet and the nazis helped the Japanese, who utterly destroyed my country during WW2 and basically starved us to death.

@Nytem4re

I'll take "being an enabler" for 600, Alex.

also, allowing people to spread ignorance is pretty bad; global warming deniers do exactly that.

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@Ace of Hearts I really hope your Fabricant's 2nd account. Or Tulpa's 9th. Would make it more believable than you being a real person.

@SleepingSilence

Yeah, you'd have to be some kind of weirdo to hate the nazis/white supremacists/the alt-right as much as I do.

right?

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I love how no one on the thread has actually supported Nazi-ism, and the one who reminds me the most of this

is @Ace of Hearts

@POOHEAD189

No, people are supporting others to have the right to believe in Nazi ideology without consequence from the government or the people.

that's what sympathizers and collaborators do.

also, haha, fighting nazis makes you the nazi?

but I can't call people names because that's mean and hurts Frokanes little feewings.