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Awesome, glad to be aboard. ;)

Definitely curious who or what 'Muru' is. Also whether or not our PCs will be denizens of the outer rim worlds, proactive core-dwellers, or some mix of both. Will we be playing as a crew that comes together by chance, or perhaps due to the machinations of this Muru?
I'm pretty interested, too. Room for one more?
Pairing Deanna and Troi together definitely seems like it came out of writing their interactions in regards to Alexander. Plus, there's that natural play of opposites between them. And yeah, I'd love to see a show with Worf as captain! Especially since I think today's climate more than ever feels a lot closer to the spirit of social progress Star Trek has always been championing (not to get too political).

Well, the coronals might need something to anchor them to the planet. The surface gravity of a sun is usually much greater than its orbiting worlds. That's the best idea I can come up with offhand, anyway, though your idea that organic life-forms are better suited at "absorbing" the sun's rays (at least from as far away as the planet they're stuck on) sounds good, too. And I also like your thought that daily and/or annual planetary rotation could play some role.

I don't think we need to turn it into a "prudes vs. libertines" sort of thing; in fact, plenty of cults tend to encourage polygamy, anyway. I still favor it as either more guile being done by the church or, my real preference, part of the origin (and feeble justification) for the scientific faction. Other things like farming, construction, even medicine may have regressed to more Luddite-like methods, but the artificial preservation of the population would be harder to refuse.

We should probably start this soon, yeah? Eps typically open with Picard narrating, so I'm willing to go first, but I'll probably need a few days just to get into the right headspace and write something I'm happy with. I'd work on the basic setup and open things up for some of your characters (like Riker or Beverly) somehow. I'll probably also at least name the planet, unless you have suggestions for that or anything else. The rest we can do as we go.
Sorry for the lateness of my reply; 4th of July vacation and all.

Yeah, let's just stick with 'hew-mons' for this one, though I still like the idea of an isolated mix of races, perhaps ones naturally opposed to one another like in the "Birthright" two-parter.

Oh, man, I would totally endure a shitty remake of that movie just to have Liam Neeson in the lead role. XD

Some blasted stomping grounds of the world-bound coronals that serves as a rite of passage site for the descendants' children sounds great. d(^_^) Perhaps one can be the religious devotee I mentioned before who likens the encounter to facing a demon.

Wow, I totally overlooked the part much earlier where you had the idea these things use the natives as hosts! It could be cool to do, though I'd want to know why they do it (better way to absorb more stellar rays, have difficulty living on the planet without doing this for... some reason, etc.). But if that's the case, the host could show all kinds of neat symptoms. Unnaturally hot to the touch, weird bursts of energy/light if the host is in danger of being injured, lack of normal routine (eating, sleeping, seeking sunlight at the expense of all else, etc.), starting to look drawn, prematurely aged, organ failure, burns, cancerous symptoms, starting to wither to a husk and/or seem to 'fall apart.' It could get pretty ghoulish by the end; maybe once the coronal departs, the host just collapses into a pile of spent ashes or something. Of course, all these traits could be chalked up to 'possession.'

Re: population, I asked because, realistically, it'd probably be impossible for any small group to propagate an enduring society. Everyone would be getting it on with everyone else, women would have to birth a swarm of babies and incest would be almost inevitable... I was looking for some flimsy justifications for their survival. One idea that occurs to me, though, is perhaps the research vessel had some sort of plant- or culture-breeding laboratory implements that the people reconfigured after they crash-landed in order to procreate artificially somehow. This butts heads with the science/faith divide, but maybe it's another example of the church's sneaky use of technology, or one of the few concessions the faithful give the scientists to excuse their existence. Just something to consider.

Have you seen the TNG episode "The Price"? It's one of the early Troi eye-rollers where she has a sort of brief, melodramatic fling with an oily Betazoid negotiator who uses his empathic abilities (and some old-school flim-flam) to manipulate talks. Anyway, the actor had this shit-eating politician/used car salesman quality that would be pretty great for a church figurehead (cf. your average televangelist). I also like the idea he's youngish (mid-late 30s or early 40s or some equivalent) and smooth-talking, while the 'leader' of the scientific faction (probably much more splintered à la the Democratic party) is an old and sort of curmudgeonly man or woman without much rhetorical savviness.

Also, I got a kernel for another 'episode' idea down the road involving difficulties the Enterprise has in convincing some non-Federation spacefaring race to share some new whiz-bang tech or maybe a vital curative or resource with them as opposed to a company of Ferengi merchants. I feel like the Maquis or maybe some pirates could also get thrown in the mix somehow.
Okay, quick summary to get things rolling:

-Ancestral (research) vessel arrives in system, experiments on star
(-Possible defensive maneuvers by coronal entities)
-Researchers trigger reaction in star, damage vessel, which crash-lands on nearby planet
-Leader (either original commander of ship/mission or other authority figure) vies for control of survivors post-crash; cultivates a following, religious doctrine, saintly status
-Schism of scientists v. religious? (The gist, at least)
-Xty years pass... (Occasional flares which gain religious significance, rare encounters w/ marooned coronal entities?)
-Unknown increase in coronal entities' proximity to descendants causes epidemic; religious officials use concealed tech from crash to send out SOS, Enterprise receives it

So are you saying you think the people who crash-land on the planet should be a mix of different species and/or perhaps part of an earlier Federation mission? That's an interesting idea - a bit like the Bozeman in "Cause and Effect" (the one w/ Kelsey Grammer as a TOS movie-era captain) - but it could make things perhaps more complicated than they might be already. I'd definitely be up for revisiting the Bozeman or that kind of scenario later, though!

The episode you're thinking of is "The Enemy." Forbidden Planet is a '50s sci-fi movie starring Leslie Nielsen (among others). I definitely recommend it. ;)

You bring up some good points. A rough timeline would be good, as would some symptoms. I think the crash-landed party and their descendants need at least 100 years to have developed into what the Enterprise finds, maybe more. If the planet is especially hostile, lifespans and expectancy will probably be shorter and so more 'generations' may have passed than would on a civilized world.

Unfortunately, I can't think of much else for the illness other than radiation poisoning/sickness like in "Thine Own Self." Skin cancer, maybe, due to the profusion of UV rays that the marooned coronals exude wherever they go? Their presence (and/or their attempts to erect a "light bridge" planetside) might also ruin crops, deplete water sources and generally increase the surrounding temperature to intolerable degrees. Ooh, and perhaps some natural absorption process of local light waves does tricky things with eyesight, like blinds people or causes trippy, hallucinogenic light shows. Direct contact would probably sear or even disintegrate organic life. Anyway, I doubt it would be something contagious, but the natives might not know that.

Question: Should we address or handwave how large the population of original survivors would have to be to produce enough offspring to establish a sustainable society? I'm willing to handwave, but some at least perfunctory explanation would be nice.
(Another episode I'm reminded of is "Galaxy's Child.")

Well, according to Wikipedia: "Current methods of flare prediction are problematic, and there is no certain indication that an active region on the Sun will produce a flare. However, many properties of sunspots and active regions correlate with flaring. For example, magnetically complex regions (based on line-of-sight magnetic field) called delta spots produce the largest flares. A simple scheme of sunspot classification... is commonly used as a starting point for flare prediction. Predictions are usually stated in terms of probabilities for occurrence of flares... within 24 or 48 hours."

So there's some gauging method, if a broad one, though the stranded descendants might not have reinvented the technology yet to make a definite connection. Maybe the scientist I referred to earlier is pioneering the correlation between sunspots and flares?

If I may be a touch pedantic, we might prefer to call them "stellar flares" since they won't be coming from Sol, Earth's sun. I don't think a progression of flares would occur naturally, but it could be manufactured. The entities that inhabit the sun's atmosphere or corona might, like us, be unable to travel in space unaided. In their case, they use ejected 'clouds' of ions, electrons and atoms - which are the very things flares emit. And if these entities are intelligent at all and have any sense of community, the ones 'back home' in the star's atmosphere may be trying to fabricate a 'bridge' or 'river' for their own wayward members to return by, the visible effect being an increase in flare activity. The difficulty for them might be in trying to recreate one strong enough to support a return trip, which has unfortunate side effects on the populace of the planet (in addition to the lost beings' behavior thereon).

The only way I see the flares being caused by the crashed ship is if it were some sort of research vessel that had been doing experiments on the star, triggered some reaction and were propelled onto the nearby planet. Whatever they did could have long-term consequences for the star, perhaps turning it unstable (artificially inducing its growth or collapse?), which puts them, the stellar beings and even the entire system at risk. Some initial (and probably hostile) encounter between the research team and the corona-dwelling beings might have eventually been translated into a mythical 'battle in the heavens' in the stranded group's religion, too.

As for the head scientist/commanding officer/what-have-you turned religious icon, I don't necessarily think they're still alive, since at least a few generations would need to have lived on the planet to forget most of their advancements and where they come from. But the leader's manipulation of the masses would be carried on through his church, perhaps led by a hereditary successor. That said, I'm unsure how a group of knowledgeable spacefaring folk could become members of a cult, but dire circumstances do crazy things to people and, if this is an alien species, they might have already had strong spiritual traditions that survived into their society's warp-capable stage of advancement. But the stranded people could either be a theocracy with a (re)burgeoning scientific underground, or the church might simply be an influential but not dominant facet of the newly arisen culture.

As for the entities on the planet's surface, they needn't have been there for as long as the people, though that's possible. It could support stories of 'demonic' encounters or something, though their proximity would need to be fairly infrequent if this illness is considered unusual by the populace. I imagine the beings are semi-solid or gaseous and plasma-based, largely invisible to the naked eye except for perhaps a vague shimmering outline, like in Forbidden Planet if you've seen it, or such as appears over blacktop on a hot day. In terms of shape and ambulation, they might mimic the helical, serpentine look of "coronal loops" or perhaps something in the vein of very bizarre deep-sea organisms. They might be angels or demons to the religious folk and could be called things like "sun dogs" (actually an earthly phenomenon, but still a neat term), serpents/snakes, dragons, worms, or otherwise, depending on what we model them after.

Oh, and some more TNG lulz. ;)
Okay, I like having a culture in development. Maybe some rough equivalent of the Renaissance? See more below.

Your last idea could be interesting b/c we could have things that initially support either viewpoint: A religious devotee encounters one of the entities causing the illness or some phenomenon related to their presence, while a scientist makes some connection to radiation poisoning and the makeup of the nearby star. The revelation later is that these beings usually exist in the sun's atmosphere and so are saturated with the radiation, perhaps even need it to thrive, but some rare solar event (A flare or eclipse? Perhaps this is also something the religious people interpret and celebrate) inadvertently redirected them onto the planet. Oh, plus we can have the threat of a good ol' witch-burnin' that the Enterprise has to try and prevent.

Although, a lot of this behavior sounds like what you'd expect from a pre-warp drive people, which would put the Prime Directive in effect. So maybe this culture is descended from an expedition sent out by a warp-capable race that got marooned on the planet and lost much of their knowledge? Picard & co. might waffle a bit over whether this gives them leave to interfere or not (I don't know if there's some precedent on the show), before circumstances possibly force their hand (see following).

Additionally, to borrow from your second idea, maybe the survivors of the crash were deliberately manipulated by someone who's become a venerated, saintlike figure in their present-day religion, or even the god they worship? And so the higher-ups of the religious order know full well they came from another world and some other details about their origins and former capabilities, but the general public doesn't. These could be the same folk who 'force the crew's hand' by way of hailing them with secret comlink technology. Members of the crew might then have to go planetside to investigate, complete with surgical alterations or disguises and are viewed as foreign scientists or hermetic healers.

Hopefully that doesn't all sound too complicated...

EDIT: Aaaaand a good chunk of that seems reminiscent of "Thine Own Self," not to mention "Who Watches the Watchers," but it still has potential.
Okay, so please allow me to be a bit uncouth; it's Deanna Troi. Sorry, I was hoping my spelling would rub off without need for comment, but now you'll just have to be mortified! MWAHAHA- I mean, yeah, sorry. <_<;

You really can have Beverly, I care not a whit. Oh, I got Worf, though, right? I think I took up Deanna, too, for much the same reason as Wesley. That leaves Riker, Geordi and Data, who all seem to be real crowd-pleasers, so we can go halfsies on all three or continue divvying them up.

Let's break it down by numbers;

Genkai:
-Will Riker
-Beverly Crusher
-Geordi La Forge
-Data

dreamshell
-Jean-Luc Picard
-Worf "Son of Mogh" Rozhenko
-Deanna Troi
-Ro Laren
-Cameos from Guinan
-Tasha Yar as a surprise guest star???
-Wesley Crusher as the wild card!

(undecided)
-Miles O'Brien
-Reginald Barclay
-Alyssa Ogawa
-OCs?
-Others???

Since a few of those are up in the air/recurring rather than regulars, that makes us pretty even, though I can't deny that writing for Riker, Geordi or Data occasionally would be nice. At the least, I'd enjoy handling Lore if he ever pops back up so that damn hanging subplot between him and Data ("Brothers forgive," to quote the good Dr. Crusher) can get wrapped up already! But I find the arrangement pretty agreeable.

I don't know about any of these ideas yet, lemme digest, but god, I just had the weirdest inspiration for a crossover. Ever see the Alien Nation movie/TV show/TV movies? Well, imagine Alien Nation as part of the events shortly pre-Eugenics Wars. Though how we'd make that jive with first contact with the Vulcans, I dunno... But basically, I'm arguing for some Newcomers in Starfleet. :P But if you're unfamiliar, I'll just leave it alone.
If someone has to play Wesley Crusher, I will accept that dubious honor. Mostly 'cause Wil Wheaton himself is actually a Pretty Cool Guy. But I'll see if I can't whip the boy genius into shape, learn him some tact and humility. IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU, WESLEY (except when the writers decide that it is 'cause you're their pet favorite)! But yeah, I always liked the idea he might have come back from his time with that weirdo Traveler in some later series with a wiser head on his shoulders and some serious foreknowledge into Big Things coming the galaxy's way. Sort of like Luke at the start of Jedi, if you get me?

Oooh, and maybe Guinan? Ensign Ro, if we use her? And/or Tasha if she's resurrected/brought back from an alternative timeline/the past?

Anyway. Uhhh... well, cultural complications in dealing with the illness? Bureaucratic? "Gee, what a shame this rebel faction/rival nation/opportunistic dick we can't strong-arm for some reason has all the [insert way to speed up and/or cure illness/save the day]! Maybe you Federation types want to take a swing at it?"

Another trick is the House tactic of having the first-stage 'cure' actually intensify the condition and necessitate super-critical super-urgent super-disestablishmentarianist methods that no one has ever been this crazy to try before! :P
Hi, Mystery. I'm in a similar place as you, where I'd definitely like to use roleplaying as a way to hone my writing (and generally produce output more regularly). Is there anything in particular that's currently captured your imagination? Would you want some kind of writing sample from your potential partner? Do you have a preference on where the writing occurs (threads, PMs, emails, etc.)?
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