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    1. OutlawTorn 10 yrs ago

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I find it difficult to hold a conversation with someone who disregards everything I say to make me look like I'm wrong using vague points which are irrelevant to the core subject material.

Just go ahead and say I make you uncomfortable because I'm speaking directly to you in this condescending manner. it's not the attitude, but my being right about YOU that bothers you. But don't stoop to petty lows, trying to make me look like the idiot. Anyone here with an IQ over 50 knows it too. So I might not be so liberal about speaking on other's behalf.
I think if I'm bothering you, it's because what I'm saying challenges your comfy little bubble of denial and indecisiveness.

Several of you actually said no one can play canon characters but the creators. That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard any roleplayer say in 8 years.

This makes me wonder how you even hold your own using your own characters. How inconsistent, basic, and awful they must be, if you can't play a character with tons of source material and background, showing you exactly who that character is.

If you put aside the fact that you hate me and my forward approach, you'll find that in theory, a canon character is easier to play, because it's laid out neatly for you. You have a clear and defined blueprint to guide you every step of the way.

So I don't care what you think of me. Millions of roleplayers around the world will agree with me, because I'm right.

Threads like this wouldn't even exist, if everyone had common sense, some conviction, and a little decisiveness. You'd have no need to write lengthy speeches about the problems you encountered, because you'd effectively manage them along the way.

Do you really have nothing better to do with your RP time than bitch about shit that bothers you?
Because what bothers me is weakness and stupidity.

In terms you'll grasp: YOU bother me.
I hate to say it's so, but this RP may not take place on this site.

Upon my coming here, I was mislead greatly.
You're my hero, HollywoodMole...

It must be so hard... and yet you're still here, givin' it your best...

*choked up* you're my hero!
Let me say it again, and then you can continue projecting your denial unto me:

OutlawTorn said You learn from your mistakes and bad choices. You don't waste 5 minutes of your life posting to bitch about it because your indecisive nature is obviously bothering you on a deep, profound level.

You post here to helplessly whine about the troubles you face as a creative writer. I'm just trying to help you better understand and properly deal with the stuff you put out there, placing yourselves at the mercy of passers by with 2 cents to throw in the proverbial tin cup.You don't like logical solutions to your immortal problems, don't share 'em.
Wow!!! I've read your stuff, Pachamac... Slow it down...

My quarrel is with those who wrestle with entry level, basic problems, saying stuff like "no one can write a canon character but the creator."

>.< I mean that's so stupid it hurts my brain! If you truly believe that, you have no business writing with other people. It's called responsibility.

Truly minuscule problems being treated like catastrophes.
I'm actively on 2 other forums.

No Pachamac. I'm beginning to feel like this community may need me. Like maybe that's why he was so adamant about my coming here of all places.

Maybe this is a good thing, your feeling put down by my presence aside, of course. I apologize for being fresh out of fucks to give, but it's been a rough month.
In no way did I say I feel that sort of behaviour is vindicated.

But when something like that happens, it's as easy as saying, "Goodbye!" and respectfully quitting the project.

It shouldn't haunt and bother you to the point where you come here to fire off a lengthy rant about how much this bothers you on a human level.

Next time, do more to ensure that you and this person are a good fit, and you're on the same page plot-wise before even getting started on your IC.
And I'm sorry you feel that way, Pachamac. But the inexperience and lack of conviction around here is getting ridiculous. I was asked to come here, with the promise of the finest RP site the world has to offer.

And I'm beginning to feel like a fool for it!

When you have people saying things like, "No one can play a canon character but the creator(s)." Something is deeply, deeply wrong.
Let me just elaborate using a tangible example.

A Legacy Written In Blood. This is a mystery/horror RP I'm doing right now.

Samuel Blithe is the main character of this story, hands down, no contest.

But wait... Samuel Blithe doesn't even appear until like 10 posts in. O_o And we start off with this Owen guy, and his girlfriend Allison.

Weird, huh? Downright fucked up! If Samuel Blithe is without a doubt the central character focus, shouldn't he be in the very first post, killing someone, seducing a girl, or asserting his dominance and presence somehow?

No, because Owen is also a VERY important character, with an amazing, very rewarding journey within this story.

Then there's Lucavi! Haha!!! You won't even know who Lucavi is until a long way into the story. But Lucavi is probably the second most important character in this story. He's also extremely powerful, on a social, political, and physical level. He's a representative of The Order, which means he basically cannot be fucked with, unless you're stupid, or suicidal and too cowardly to do it yourself.

Is Lucavi a god-mod character? No, despite what newbs may think, he's a necessary antagonist force. Interestingly enough, Lucavi turns out to be more of a neutral, almost protagonist role.

See, Sam is a member of the Drakul Covenant in Blackwater, which are friends with the neighboring Fletcher Covenant in New Haven. Gabriel Fletcher (Master of the Fletcher Covenant) is killed, and Sam is framed for the murder.

This provokes Adrian Fletcher, son of Gabriel, to declare war on the Drakul camp.

When this happens, Lucavi shows up looking for Sam.

So with all of this shit going on, how oh how could you possibly fit a character of any importance into that?

Well what about Allison, Owen's (ex)girlfriend, (ex by now because Alison and Owen broke up, and now Alison and Sam are together) who by the time the second story starts, has become the most powerful character in the story.

Or Elizabeth May Drakul, eldest daughter of Vlad Drakul.

Or Alucard Drakul, only son of Vlad Drakul.

Hell, Vlad himself!!! He's not very present in the story, but he's one hell of a role! The man behind the myth, The Impaler himself!

Or Hunter & Calib, who were behind the killing of Gabriel Fletcher all along, and now plan to rise from the shadows of the wilderness and wage war on the now weakened Covenants.

Or Michael Lancaster and Wyland McRae, who are hired by The Order to "liquidate" the entire Drakul Covenant after things get really messy toward the end of the first story...

Then there's one of my favorites, Preacher. Literally a fly on the wall, yet one of the most engrossing, interesting, rewarding characters I've ever made...
There's no excuse for not being able to fit a good, important character into a plot, regardless of what's been established, who's who, and what's what.

I could STILL fit more characters into Legacy. That's why there are at least 2 more RP's after Rising.
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