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At risk of boring you....
*Clears my throat*
I’m sure you’ve noticed that many systems can apply equally to magic. A chaos-based theory of magic can work just as well as other schools if you tweak the rest of the calculations for spells and runes and all that. It gets you to the same place, but I don’t think they’re as intuitive for casters.


Oh, I see now. I don’t really see it as a theory more of as a way magic is as a resource compared to many other elements. My original point was magic in utself is a chaotic energy that can do anything and nothing. If you are talking about theories in terms of school of thoughts in magic, then I agree that a order and chaos dichotomy is a valid and strong one. And can be applied in almost any situation. I senses that is where you were going, but I didn’t stop you as I was curious of your version.
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Many different schools of thought have been tried in our world. Most didn’t work.


*thinks*
Maybe the rules of your realm have more restrictions. Or someone is placing rules. That is not uncommon.
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Which is fine when you know what you’re talking about.


*smiles*
It’s not a bad start to aid you in understanding magic. I know my school of thought is…
*taps my chin*
Unorthodox, and possibly to you. Even wrong, but it has more than enough foundation and fundamental integrity to be considered true. I’m not denying your school of thought or even downplaying it. I want you to know that. It’s a very effective way to follow.
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The most powerful world is the one where order and chaos are perfectly balanced. Ours is much closer than a non-magical world where order rules. And if your world is ruled by chaos, good luck getting much of anything accomplished.


*smiles*
You sound like those students whom are stuck in their ways.
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They can do even less?


They have other things holding it together. What makes you think that those other things are the order holding it together. But from what if there is no magic? What other factors of chaos would those forces be necessary?
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Easy, they have other things holding it together, usually with more order than magic. So they can do even less.


Ah! Say that again!
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Magic is responsible for the order of everything. The fact that we can tap into and harness that order is just a bonus. If magic weren’t already part ordered, everything would fall apart.


Would it though? Have you been to realms where magic has no place? Where it is not even a construct, let alone merely illusions of the dexterous? Explain how they fall apart?
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What would you call a fully chaotic magic? You would have no order to tap into. What would you call a fully ordered magic? It’d be useless. It may not be perfectly balanced, but the closer to that center it is the more useful it gets.


Fully chaotic magic is magic. Ordered magic is what it has been transformed into. The titles are meaningless when it comes magic it self because most are associating it to spell-casting and how magic is used. Magic is ever changing and violent.
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Its order is the only thing that lets it be useful to the caster. What else would you call a magic circle?


Exactly! I’m not denying order, but in its base form: Magic is Chaos. Nature and the world around magic is what creates order. Magic circles are a way to enforce order with Magic. We are enforcers of order with magic. No matter how “dark” or “evil” the magic may be.
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Mmmmmm I don't know about that one. Order and chaos both have to work together.


In a world where Magic is a norm, it may not appear so, but you are bending reality and an energy to do your will. Have you looked into raw magic and mana? It is volatile. It has to be that way to change into what shape it or someone wills it to be, otherwise it is just regular energy. Energy that transfers. Magic doesn’t transfer, rather it transforms. Rapidly.
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