pugbutter

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

Soooo youre admitting I never said it but someone else in my thread did.....wow that seems to be a trend tonight.

@Dynamo Frokane

Sooo what you're saying is [thing which is laughably easy to prove you didn't say]. That's very interesting, and did you know that a sarcastic tone of voice is a suitable substitute for actually being able to argue?
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Since the sound of my own voice pleases me more than the sound of people disagreeing with me (seriously, how, like, dare they? UGH #smashthepatriarchy), a sudden whim has struck me: instead of responding to your argument, I will demand that you "find the place where I said" this or that, hoping that this will conveniently distract you from tearing me a new one.

Find the quote where I said that CD Projekt Red hiring was white nationalism, I'll wait.

@Dynamo Frokane

Physical evidence now? I'm still waiting for your incontrovertible evidence back in the mass effect thread.

@Dynamo Frokane

Find the quote where I called him a racist, I DARE you.

@Dynamo Frokane

I mean, all righty then.

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

Find the quote where I said that CD Projekt Red hiring was white nationalism, I'll wait.

@Dynamo Frokane

Like every other idea which you have convinced yourself you never espoused, but which the people in your threads have been able to magically materialize from all your quotes?

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

I hold the opinion that you can hold some bigoted views that could be seen as pretty close to racism

@Dynamo Frokane

That's another thing, isn't it? If you're delusional enough to think that a Polish developer primarily hiring Polish employees is somehow "White Nationalism," then it's an even smaller stretch that you think JonTron is racist when he expresses what you very clearly believe are "White Nationalist" views. He has said much more condemnable things than I did so in order to believe that I'm a WN and he's not, you'd have to be either lying to yourself, or, once again, ludicrously misinformed on how words work.

So why do you try to backpedal when you regret saying something ignorant? It doesn't work unless you alter/hide your posts. We can see what you said and you said he's a racist, both explicitly and through rancorous implications.

As for evidence, your refusal to acknowledge it does not mean that I was unwilling to provide it. You closed your eyes and to you that seems to mean it stopped existing.

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

especially cause I'm not calling him alt right, I'm saying he may be getting some of his information from these said groups.

@Dynamo Frokane

It's pretty insulting when you pretend you didn't say things that you very clearly did, just because they've backfired on you. This is a public forum. It's scummy enough when you do it where there's no physical evidence to demonstrate your backpedaling, but just short of you editing all your posts out, they're right there for everyone to see for themselves. Pretending you "didn't say" this or that is basically calling us illiterate, blind, stupid, or any combination of the three.

Again, here we go:

they got in a debate which REALLY exposed his views

@Dynamo Frokane

really - adverb - in reality; actually; genuinely or truly (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/really). You even ALL-CAPSed it so we'd be sure to see it. Why use that word if you either don't know what it means or are not using it ingenuously?

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

So you couldn't find the quote where I called him racist? Well thats cleared up then, thanks for coming clean.

@Dynamo Frokane

Where you called him racist? That's right here:

My theory is that hes went down some odd slippery slope that probably started with something mild like gamergate which lead to Mens Rights, Right Libertarianism, 'Redpill' Western Supremacy, /pol/ boards and then probably some sort of alt right persuasion.

@Dynamo Frokane

There are several others too, but they're more insinuations than direct declarations. This is the one where you say it explicitly.

Cyaиide Suиs

So far it's looking like Wed or Thurs of this week. This is one of two RPs to which I owe replies, but the RL bull shit needs to clear up a little first.

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Complaining that Andromeda is pro black and pro gay and hires progressives

@Dynamo Frokane

Literally no one in this thread has done this, nor insinuated that they share in that sentiment. Are you arguing with your own strawmen from the OP?

You clearly have me confused with someone else, you put no hiders in the post you tagged me in, double check yourself bud.

@Dynamo Frokane

roleplayerguild.com/posts/4219335

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I would love to see this evidence in all its incontrovertible-ness.

@Dynamo Frokane

Open the hider. Pay particular attention to the dates.

But Andromeda somehow shoehorned them in to pander. So what is YOUR standard for what is 'happening' to be diverse and what is 'forcing' diversity?

@Dynamo Frokane

I know you read the post because you quoted directly from the paragraph which explains the difference. Why pretend that you didn't?

And no, I don't draw an arbitrary line between the first three games and Andromeda. BioWare's descent has been slow and gradual, because swallowing the "SJWs buy games so we should cater to them instead of our core audience" meme didn't happen all at once.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Fabricant451 You'd think people would feel that it cheapens that aspect of their identity, though, right? It basically treats them like novelties; they're being collected like Pokemon. "Here's Iron Bull. He's 'the gay one.'" Check homosexuality off the list and move on to the next niche of identity politics.

I know one of BioWare's big gimmicks is being able to romance most/all the characters in their games' main casts, but if race, sex, and gender aren't playing direct and significant roles in the storytelling, then really it's treating those characters more like circus exhibits (not to mention marketing ploys) than proper entities, with personalities and voices. "Buy our games, we have trannies" isn't totally unlike saying, "Come to Barnum & Bailey, we have a real mermaid and a two-headed elephant," when you get down to brass tacks.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

CD Projekt more or less tell women and brown people to go fuck themselves if they don't have the talent to make a good game

@pugbutter

Spot the white nationalist.

@Ace of Hearts

Actually, you should explain why, apparently, you have to hire women and minorities, even if they lack the necessary skills to function in the company, in order to avoid being a "White Nationalist." (Did screaming "racist!" at people stop working, so we need to think of another default now?)

I gave the textbook definition of meritocracy when I said, "it's [CD Projekt's hiring process] employing the most talented people at hand to make the best product possible." You're the one who equated that to White Nationalism, which I find hilarious because that means you're the one who equates more Whites and more males on a development team with having more merit, independently of a person's ability to code.

Not that this is surprising at all, but you've revealed your personal biases in this thread, a real streak of racism, in your desperate gambit to find an injustice to crusade against, whether real or imagined. You must have realized this too since you're making no attempt at all to actually argue, instead flinging your own feces at me like a rabies-infected capuchin, but that's par for the course with the crazies on either side of the political spectrum. Horseshoe theory is real.