Both are over a bit but they can stay. 5000 is not a hard limit, seeing it is just a arbitrary number. It is a guideline. When you guys hit 4000 next time, start steering into conclusion zone.
or shall we not bother at this point?
Suck on two walls of text, you filthy animals.
Do'Karth is getting around like the village bicycle.
Sandro and Jorwen
Time for 'Adventures of Cilo and Sadri, Pt. 2'