somnolence

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I will say any further bad faith posts will be removed. So if you wanna throw hate do so in PMs.

@Ruby

None of my posts are done out of bad faith, but because I've been on this site since i was 15 years old (im 21 now) and never have i been in trouble until now, because of unfair decisions made by moderators.

As is, I'm going to stop posting in this thread because I haven't gotten any substantial responses from you and I doubt any changes will ever be made. I'd be happy to have a conversation with Mahz himself if he could ever make time for a ember of the website he created.

EDIT: There was a post above me that wasn't done in bad faith and has been deleted. Case in point.

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@Skullwombat cumzone was an interesting example to choose... the warning thing is maybe a little harsh but to be honest if they gave them the benefit of the doubt by not issuing a ban discussing a warning (even in joke form) in statuses seems a good way to wear the good will out.

@Ruby ah I feared it might be a technical limitation that prevented this kind of automation.

@Aqua Regis

It wasn't an example, it happened. By the way, someone said the same thing a little bit afterwards and wasn't banned. We all know Odin, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got permabanned for doing something extremely stupid, but in this instance it seemed uncalled for. Especially considering the double standard.

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That was during the status bar spam. That's a shitty situation when some people got dumb bans or weren't told or worse. We're a small group of volunteers and when things get like that the site mods will ban first and try to work it out after.

It's far from ideal and usually cleared up by reaching out to us.

@Ruby

Yet, I reached out about it and after I sent the PM on my alt, I was banned. I had asked for the reason, and I was given a short and curt response. So, I reached out and it wasn't cleared up at all, contrary to what you say ...

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See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).

@Aqua Regis

Nothing automated. You get banned and it removes your ability to post. You can login and read our PMs to you but you need an alt to respond to us or object the ban.

We've been begging for upgrades to the system for years.

@Ruby

Shouldn't you give a timeframe, then, for the user to respond before banning them? That seems to be the only fair response.

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For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).

@Aqua Regis

When I was banned, I hadn't received any PM. I went to an alternate account to message Ruby about it, and I was immediately banned afterward. It was only an hour or so later that I was told my ban would be lifted in 24 hrs. I was given no warning nor a timeframe in which I could view the PM and respond. Mind you, this was because I was joking around about a ban.

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They got a warning.

I meant speak personally.

@Ruby

I talked to them and they said they got the warning after their status went up and actually wanted to reply to it, but got banned before they could. I'm inclined to believe them as they never had a problem before this with moderators while you have a history of sniping.

I don't want it to come off as if im cyberbullying or harassing. I'm simply trying to get my point across and say what a good chunk of people on RPG are thinking. I don't believe this is harassment or cyberbullying because it is your duty as an admin to address our concerns. If you have a problem with that, or are taking this personally, maybe your personality isn't the right type to be a moderator.

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It's been discussed but the same group would just start going after RP threads. The status bar is just their favorite stage.

@Ruby

I literally never had problems with moderators, breaking rules, or any of that shit until I got banned for making harmless, child-friendly jokes in the status bar WITHOUT WARNING.

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This entire post is crap. I've never spoken to you before so I'm guessing the people banned were your friends and you're angry about it. Great reason to harass someone you've never spoken to.

@Ruby

So you never spoken to them before, but they were banned? So you banned them without warning them first so they have a chance to cease their actions? Even teachers in kindergarten give warnings.

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Productive List of Things I Would Like to Be Implemented:

• Members of the guild should be able to start an anonymous vote to de-moderator a moderator that they think is unfair (about half of the people that participate in the vote)
• Moderators are required to give a three verbal warnings before sniping someone
• We are allowed to question bans publicly, as PMing moderators accomplishes next to nothing
• If the thread isn't a spam thread, then moderators can't delete it unless they have received enough complaints to warrant it

if anyone else has suggestions on how to improve RPG's broken moderating system, i will gladly add it to my list

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You just had an opinion that criticized the moderators.

Not what the purpose of this thread is for but I don't see any bans coming at you for this post, so...

@Ruby

So you don't ban me the one time to prove a point, but you banned me several days ago when I criticized the moderators? An admin's purpose is to serve us, not the other way around. If I want to question a ban, I should be allowed to. If I want to criticize PW because I want to enjoy it but can't, I should be allowed to. I shouldn't have to write all this on a fucking alt so I don't have to worry about getting the ban hammer on my original account.

If you don't want me to criticize the moderators in this thread, I'll gladly take it back to the status bar. And if you ban me, I'm sure others will do so in my place.