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See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)
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Some offered to take on the running costs and hire programmers to update some of it while leaving the Guild the Guild.

There are other programmers on site who could do it and adding a bottom screen ad might just about cover most costs iirc.


Have anyone considered setting up a patreon, so people who still love this site have way to donate and keep it running?
#ShutupAndTakeMyMoney
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See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)


No, what was removed was [citation needed], which wasn't a question, nor was it constructive. If you had asked the above instead, it wouldn't have been removed.
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Have anyone considered setting up a patreon, so people who still love this site have way to donate and keep it running?
#ShutupAndTakeMyMoney


Suggested in the past as just donations even before patreon was a thing and it was promptly refused, which sorta led to the original site being shut down and deleted. Probably won't happen.
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[quote=@Andreyich]
See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

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Have anyone considered setting up a patreon, so people who still love this site have way to donate and keep it running?
#ShutupAndTakeMyMoney


Mahz is anti donations. And he still owns the site.

Good idea though.
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No, what was removed was [citation needed], which wasn't a question, nor was it constructive. If you had asked the above instead, it wouldn't have been removed.


Going by the vast majority of posts by the creator of the thread here I can't see how being constructive or being a question/answer is a prerequisite of staying up, given the vast majority are rude, one-liner deflections rather than actual answers. I also don't really see how it was neither a question nor constructive, but alright, I'll humour you now that the question is "properly asked". Where are the proofs?
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For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).
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No, what was removed was [citation needed], which wasn't a question, nor was it constructive. If you had asked the above instead, it wouldn't have been removed.


Same shit; same thing. Even if it was him being "memey", he's still asking for proof. It's literally the same phrase that Wikipedians use when asking for sources to verify their work/information.
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For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).


When I was banned, I hadn't received any PM. I went to an alternate account to message Ruby about it, and I was immediately banned afterward. It was only an hour or so later that I was told my ban would be lifted in 24 hrs. I was given no warning nor a timeframe in which I could view the PM and respond. Mind you, this was because I was joking around about a ban.
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For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).


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[quote=@Andreyich]
See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).


Nothing automated. You get banned and it removes your ability to post. You can login and read our PMs to you but you need an alt to respond to us or object the ban.

We've been begging for upgrades to the system for years.
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See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).


Nothing automated. You get banned and it removes your ability to post. You can login and read our PMs to you but you need an alt to respond to us or object the ban.

We've been begging for upgrades to the system for years.


Shouldn't you give a timeframe, then, for the user to respond before banning them? That seems to be the only fair response.
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When I was banned, I hadn't received any PM. I went to an alternate account to message Ruby about it, and I was immediately banned afterward. It was only an hour or so later that I was told my ban would be lifted in 24 hrs. I was given no warning nor a timeframe in which I could view the PM and respond. Mind you, this was because I was joking around about a ban.


That was during the status bar spam. That's a shitty situation when some people got dumb bans or weren't told or worse. We're a small group of volunteers and when things get like that the site mods will ban first and try to work it out after.

It's far from ideal and usually cleared up by reaching out to us.
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Shouldn't you give a timeframe, then, for the user to respond before banning them? That seems to be the only fair response.


While they ignore us and continue breaking site rules?

Let's admit there absolutely is no perfect solution here because there is no automated system for it.
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Going by the vast majority of posts by the creator of the thread here I can't see how being constructive or being a question/answer is a prerequisite of staying up, given the vast majority are rude, one-liner deflections rather than actual answers. I also don't really see how it was neither a question nor constructive, but alright, I'll humour you now that the question is "properly asked". Where are the proofs?


If people want to troll, they're going to find a way to do so; we've seen that from RPGO to the status bar.

Beyond that, posting in good faith is a requirement of this thread, so troll responses, even if there's a point behind them, are removed.
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<Snipped quote by LegendBegins>

Going by the vast majority of posts by the creator of the thread here I can't see how being constructive or being a question/answer is a prerequisite of staying up, given the vast majority are rude, one-liner deflections rather than actual answers. I also don't really see how it was neither a question nor constructive, but alright, I'll humour you now that the question is "properly asked". Where are the proofs?


Nope that was anecdotal off the top of my head. Replace it with any other kind of thread if you want. Or Discord.
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<Snipped quote by somnolence>

That was during the status bar spam. That's a shitty situation when some people got dumb bans or weren't told or worse. We're a small group of volunteers and when things get like that the site mods will ban first and try to work it out after.

It's far from ideal and usually cleared up by reaching out to us.


Yet, I reached out about it and after I sent the PM on my alt, I was banned. I had asked for the reason, and I was given a short and curt response. So, I reached out and it wasn't cleared up at all, contrary to what you say ...
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@Skullwombat cumzone was an interesting example to choose... the warning thing is maybe a little harsh but to be honest if they gave them the benefit of the doubt by not issuing a ban discussing a warning (even in joke form) in statuses seems a good way to wear the good will out.

@Ruby ah I feared it might be a technical limitation that prevented this kind of automation.
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