Songster Gecko

Name change

Thanks!

Name change

It's been a while, and it's time I moved on from this name. Could I have it changed to Songster Gecko, please?

What are some of the most confusing/cringiest OC's you have ever encountered?

@yoyohayliThat wasn't cringe. That was asserting dominance. That they bashed your character means that they felt threatened by this Adonis of a vampire giant, quivering in the gargantuan shadow he must have cast.

hope your friend is alright though

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

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This does not convey "genuine and calm", this conveys "I have the moral high ground and you should know better" with a mix of "reeeeeeee".

It is not your tone that is the issue here, it your complete inability to be mature and let go. @DegenerateThreebasically said "I get your point and we should just drop this because I'm redoing my stuff so this point is no longer relevant" and you decided to give someone a lecture. If you want to think of it that way, you "won" and you still felt the need to press on like a child. I'm assuming you can read previous posts so you could clearly tell that this topic was on the way out and that there was already something boiling so something prevented you from being able to read a room.

While I can accept your apology, I am going to very politely ask you to leave.

@ClocktowerEchos

I'm just back here to say this, don't kick anyone on my account, please. It's not going to make anything better; it's only going to add to the discord that's already present. Let @TheRedWatcher stay. What happened was between us. RP-wise, they're good with what they're doing so there's no need for them to go.

Again, I just want to re-iterate. We had a disagreement. We argued. Things got heated, I got fed-up and decided that it's better if I just stepped away.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

@TheRedWatcher

No, I didn't mean that.

And before you go on about colonialism, let me inform you that my entire family has lived under colonial rule at some point. My grandfather was essentially a second-class citizen who couldn't even step foot in London without permission because he was, as his birth certificate put it, a 'colonial subject' rather than a citizen. On the other side of my family, they saw what foreign concessions could do to their land, what it's like to be a considered worst than dirt where you grew up.

So don't come to me and talk to me about 'colonising lessons'.

It was just a fantasy thing. I wrote a brief overview. If there was going to be any other races, I could always put it in at some point. It wasn't exclusionary. But believe what you will. I don't want to argue. I don't want my blood to boil, and I sure as hell don't want to be arguing about white-washing and colonial history when I live in a place where colonialism is still in living memory, when my experiences growing up is to see my own culture and people patronised and condescended to.

You know what? I'm done. I'm so, so done. Do what you want, believe what you want. I don't care. I'm out.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

@TheRedWatcher

...I said it before, I know it's an occupation, I just wanted something semi-fantasy. That's it. Before I get any more accusations thrown my way, can I just say that I do know a thing or two about how Viking-era Scandinavia wasn't as homogenous as it's made out to be? I, at the very least, know about Ibn Fadlan's work as an explorer to the region so yes, it's perfectly fine for Vikings to not be all white.

All I wanted to do was just make a fantasy peoples. That's all there is to it. I'm pretty sure most people know that medieval Europe wasn't as homogenous as once believed as well. At least, I've taken history lectures and didn't meet a person who truly, honestly, whole-heartedly, non-ironically spout such BS.

Regardless, I'm redoing stuff from the ground up using what I had with the SK as a baseplate, so the point is moot.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

@DegenerateThree Trust me, I know how you feel. I've gotten ching chonged on the bus before and more than one person thinking calling me slanty is the Pinnacle of humor and that the highest act of patriotism is accusing me of being a communist spy or that I have a secret bottle of covid juice to spread around.

What I originally said was meant mostly in jest but I can see how that could be misinterpreted so I offer my apologies for not making that clear. You're free to use the common ancestor or coincidental convergence idea or any others you wish. Again, sorry.

@ClocktowerEchos

...No, it's my fault. I shouldn't have let momentary anger get the best of me. No excuse, but I guess it's the build up from folks not taking it seriously when I try say, "Hey, don't you think that's a little off?"

In any case, I'll take down what I have of the SK and give it a once-over. There's no point in sticking with it now that it's caused this amount of disharmony. I'll try to get something up by the end of today, but if the RP has to start soon-ish, just go ahead without me.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

@DegenerateThree A common misconception about the Old Norse people, funnily enough, is that they were all white. DNA evidence suggests that they had a great deal of ethnic diversity, with ancestry from hunter-gatherers and farmers from across the Eurasian steppe in addition to the Nordic regions. This article goes into a bit more detail about it, if you want to take a look at it for ideas to refine your CS.

@BCTheEntity

I know that; I read the same study and I've studied human evolution - not as a specialisation, granted, but just as part of anthropology - but I that's just how I want to make my little fantasy nation. That's it. @ClocktowerEchos I apologise if I misunderstand, but I'm none-too-pleased at that insinuation. I've been called everything from a chink to a 'fucking Asian' to 'Go back to where you came from', so I'm very, very, very clear on how it can look. As mentioned, this is all fantasy. As much as I like realism, I think it's fine to be detached from reality to some degree.

But if it's causing this much strife, I'll change it. I don't want to argue; I don't want to get irate at something that happened on the internet - life's too short for that. But I can't promise that there's going to be much change because it's how I designed the whole damn thing from the start - it's like knocking away a foundation stone and expecting everything to stand up. Maybe that makes me a poor writer, but who knows? It's how I world-build.

I'm sorry if I sound very aggravated, but I really don't appreciate the perceived accusation here.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

@BCTheEntity The Sjamyyki are from the north; think more of the old Norse Vikings rather than Polynesians. Vaakjarki is part of a clan that didn't settle; they still wander the colder north.

Look, I'll think of a fix, but not now. I'm just saying that changing that detail isn't as quick as it is for me to do and if there's a compromise to be found, I'd rather go for that, but I guess that's not exactly possible, all things considered.

Kingmakers - The Throne Alone (GoT/ASOIF-like) (Noble Politics)

I'll try to think of something, but that was a character I brought over from the original RP. The alabaster skin is supposed to be a trait of all Sjamyyki, so changing that alone is going to need quite the overhaul. Alternatively, I can just adjust certain bits and bobs of his appearance, but I doubt it'll be that much of a difference.

I mean, I don't particularly mind or see the issue with having characters that are similar - even to that extent. Having a bit of confusion here and there could lead the plot down pretty interesting lines. Vaakjarki also has the trait of being rude and silent, so that's one point of separation at the very least. If the similarity in appearances is truly a bother, I'll try to do something about it but I can't promise much because, again, that's not just Vaakjarki's look; it's something common to all Sjamyyki.