The Red Zephyr

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Skai said
We'll try to post the next half of the collab in sections, because obviously you guys cant handle a little heavy reading.

I don't have issues with heavy reading, I just don't want to discourage those who do. Also, it's a matter of common sense and continued activity. That last collab could have just been Kish posts and collabs between you and Lost (maybe one tri-player collab), and ended up being AT LEAST five posts.

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Will post tonight by the way. I have a lot of it done, it just depends on whether I'll be able to work on it before or after work.

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Sage said
Ok Zeph, I can literally fix this in the next post with one sentence so calm down a bit. Your flintlocks could easily be military grade (I.e core driven lethal versus core powered lethal ballistic) and be stronger than any assault rifle. Modern armor has been around for a long time even without militaristic needs (kinetic sheids, advanced tech armor). Bullet versus armor? Ha! That's cute. Plasma round versus armor? Not as safe. Keep that in mind. Literally at this point, after thinking, the only problem is the fact that Kisheto and Hector got wounded. So I'll fix that and make it to where aan wearing modern armor can charge a man using a ballistic assault rifle and not worry about shit. But just chill out and let me fix it, we got the point.EDIT: and by fix it, I mean in my next post. Unless I get a majority opinion to edit the collab which I wouldn't mind doing.

I am literally totally fine now, since my cries are not upon deaf ears. I'm fine with playing with the weapons and tech a bit, but it needs to be defined. I could retcon Weston's weapons into better stuff (which would happen eventually, but after Act 1). I expected things to get really fancy later, but we are still in Fucktown and the (hopefully not stupid) military is the mayor.

Bonus for anyone who gets what i just referenced.

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Yeah, most people having fancy core-based weapons has bugged me a lot as well, but I've put up with it since one of my characters had those in the original. However, my CURRENT character is founded on the idea of us not having advanced lethal weaponry. He is a captain in the Continental Army that has two apparently out-dated pistols and a sword. Giving him strength and agility was my idea of setting up awesome melee fights. His name should be retconned to Weston McUseless.

The collab basically implies that everything from here out will be Max Payne gun battles unless you have powers that make bullets obsolete. Having a fancy wind cannon, a diamond dust chainsaw, a rapier, or a Gandalf staff doesn't really help you against a bunch of dudes spraying bullets. People who arent totally OP now have to participate in basic gunfights to fight people.

And BBeast, my issue with this isn't solely based on "what's in the OP" but what Kish and I have discussed and agreed on in the past as well. We talked about the weapon tech being akin to the game DIshonored. For the most part, you have single-shot weapons and MAYBE revolver-type ones, but combat is largely with melee. Of course you have the fancy shit, but it wouldn't really be the norm.

ALSO, this whole issue is why we shouldn't do these ridiculously large collabs. Most of it would be fine as standalone posts, since Kish wasn't part of all of Arianna's and Ik's actions. Having that huge lump makes any possible edits a huge chore.

EIther way, I'll concede that the sudden, unexplained rifles was left a bit undercooked. I should have expanded on the weaponry more, but I wasn't expecting Zephyr to throw a big fuss about it.

You can always expect me to throw a fuss about things that make no sense. Apparently my job here is "voice of reason" and it's really irritating that I have to be. Like REALLY irritating.

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Let it be known that BBeast is my favorite person as of now.

Anyway, my argument isn't about the existence of any advanced weaponry, but of it's availability to a WRECKED city that only allows authorized military personnel in and out. The norm for weaponry before the Void Opening was flintlock and revolving chambered weapons, or nonlethal core-based weapons. In the course of one year, after a massive cataclysm, a huge governmental shift, and likely a gargantuan economic shit, the mass-production of ANYTHING would be hard to do. Even if the military suddenly thought up automatics, plasma rifles, or whatever,it would be difficult to make enough for all their soldiers and then lose them to a bunch of street gangs. If the street gangs made the shit up themselves, it'd be pretty crazy to be up against that and not be freaked the fuck out (see "Legolas with a sniper" example; orcs would be shitting themselves).

As far as technological advancement in general goes, the evolution of firearms from one-shot, black powder guns to magazine-using, full-auto rifles took hundreds of years. That whole time, we WERE in war. Also, the technology in Aeros was massively inflated by cores, just as modern tech has been inflated by fossil fuels. If suddenly we ran out of oil and coal, or if Aeros ran out of cores, everything would go to complete shit. You can't just credit the fast development of shit to "well all their stuff is futuristic, so it wouldn't take much to catch up weaponry". The only reason everything is so advanced is because of the aid of CORES.

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So Kish, why is Weston carrying around two flintlock pistols then? When did "underdeveloped weaponry" become plasma rifles? The whole premise behind the world was having a futuristic setting that still required mainly melee weapon usage for combat because of the lack of military conflict. I understand the military probably got into weapon development as soon as they were left full control of Leginia, but they wouldn't just hand out automatic weapons and shit to the gangs of Sovereign. Automatic weapons should be to the people of Leginia like alien laser guns would be to us, or a sniper rifle would be to Legolas.

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*Continues Zephyr Mode*

Julian and Arianna seem a bit off. Arianna hardly seems bothered by the fact that her boyfriend effortlessly slaughtered several men without batting an eye. I know it's the apocalypse and all but her personality doesn't fit with someone who doesn't value human life. Julian seems weird for the same reason. He's a relaxed stoner type that apparently straight up kills people. Hector and his buddies have been trained to kill and deal with death, and Iktomi is a sociopath who thinks he's Spider-Christ: I can believe them being okay with so much death, but not Bob Marley and the rich girl.

Also, Iktomi defines OP. His threads apparently ignore gravity completely, are nearly unbreakable, and can form into anything.

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So yeah, me and Lost will try to get our callab up as soon as we can. It's more of a flashback, so nothing is riding on it really. I just want to get some activity going since there's been one post every three days if we're lucky lately. My posts are pretty independent of everyone else's (purposefully so no one waits on me), so I dunno what's up.

Also, for collabs like the last one, it would definitely help just to make a regularish-sized piece, post, then make another piece, et cetera. Waiting on huge lumps kinda makes it:

1: Take frakking forever

2. A possibly tedious read

3. Take frakking forever

ALSO, It's time to go Zephyr mode on this collab:

The founder of the RP said from handguns and revolvers to sub machine guns and shotguns.

Dude...

The founder of the RP said *The weaponry of Leginia, however, is not as modern. The era of peace that the council brought resulted in an end to the thirst for militaristic advancement. Guns are rare, and function based off cores (most will focus on using a Fire Core to project forward a bullet). Other than that, swords, daggers, axes, hammers, bows, throwing knifes, etc are all weapons.

Do I need to say more? This is lore-breaking shit in YOUR ROLPLAY! This is like LOTR's Legolas pulling out a sniper rifle and headshotting peeps.

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gamer5 said
I fight back!1. My CS and Sample are definetly readable now.2. I showed my CS and Sample to Kaga (Kagamine) one of the people which were in charge of the Writter of the Month OFFICIAL CONTEST on the Old Guild which said that it showed a great level of grammar accuracy and dedication to making the post. I hold her oppinion twice more important then yours since she was one of the most influental people on the Old Guild and one of the rare people which I trust about grammar stuff.3. I read at least one of your IC posts and glanced at a few other ones which you and the other made and I think my Sample and CS are at least incredibly close to that grammar level if not at the same.4. My style of writting is based around long, multiple sentances linked together. Yes, this is a hard thing to do, but in the long run and with good linking it becomes a beautiful writting style which creates, at least by my opionion, a feeling like you are reading a novel not a post. If you want don't like this then do what you told me to do.5. If you wish to drag this stuff feel free, but when it comes to argumenting my stand I was one of the best, if not the best, in my school. You have been warned.Extra - If you need a show how good and dedicted my post can be take a look at my new RP. (LINK is here:)The first OOC post explaining the setting is clear, intresting and allows the roleplayers to be creative. I was also willing to spend a whole day working on it and the map to make the experience of roleplaying on such a RP nicer and smoother. Gamer5, former GM and member of numerours Casual RPs, current GM of the Lands of Lemea and WOTM Casual-level winner.

Oh yes let the bickering resume GG.

I don't care what your credentials are or how well you actually write. Just don't bitch about what's REQUIRED. You could be a shitty writer with no experience, but I'd be all for you joining if you took the initiative to get better. I don't write perfectly, and even have a bit of an inferiority complex about it, but I strive to get better because I like RPing and want this to be the best roleplay possible.

So don't retort with your credentials when I could give 3 shits less. Your current performance is what matters, not what you've done in the past.

Zeph has spoken and will no longer speak of this.

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AnriuSB said
Yo Zeph, about my most recent post, you ok with being the guy Samuel found? Or is something already planned for this?

Don't touch Weston.