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I'm very interested in this. Can I possibly make a character that is the daughter of Sygyn and Loki based on the Earth-616 versions of them?


I'll have to talk this over with @Chicogal cause one her character's father is Loki. Loki is understandably quite promiscuous, so it's likely reasonable that he also has yet another child. Probably has loads more children he hides tbh. Lol. But yeah lemme get back to you on this.
@winter kitten Also, I just realized both your guys are gay! LOL Now I wanna make a gay guy! haha!


I'm not contributing on the racial diversity so I gotta contribute diversity somewhere!! XD
Fun fact, Captain America joined Hydra in one of the recent comics apparently. WILLINGLY I might add. So its pretty likely SHIELD would recruit or even promote Red Skull to around Agent Coulson's level at this point.


That's a part of canon I'm willing and have (within this RP) destroyed and negated completely. So, yeah. No. In this universe (MCU + 616 Mash up; And I'm happy to include the various X-Men franchises into the mix, too) that whole deal with Cap and his mom are pretty much a "clever" artist's headcanon of "what really happened".

Hydra Cap pissed me off too much to think about it and I highlighted it in the OP. Or, at least, I implied what I thought of it. I can go on a tangent when it comes to this particular issue and I'm just waiting for Marvel to make it's money off the gimmick and retcon it once they've milked it dry to ever think to look at a Cap comic again.




Anyway, before I scream about that. I think Roze and Roosan bring up excellent points. Something like this would fit well with the X-Men (maybe. possibly. better than SHIELD, if anythign), but when you look at the characters we have now and look at their thematic, it just doesn't really fit with it.

I think Roosan explains this pretty perfectly. It's too fantastical and while we do have someone here from Alfheim (Erik) there's not a lot in 616 or even much mentioned in Thor 2, that it allows the both of us to craft something that would work with the them the MCU have given us. Which is what @Roosan explained. Space-elves. How fucking weird is that? But in this universe it works and can be grounded in its pseudo-science better than a toon character.

It's just, and I keep reiterating this, you have to look at our roster now to see the kind of power I'm looking to fill.

@Angel Eyes previously stated

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LOL, maybe its a sign that u should find a new concept. But in seriousness though, if your gonna try and use it here too, I'd definitely advice again that u modify her greatly. As in cutting down on 75% of the powers at least. Otherwise, you will probably illicit backlash again. No one likes to lose the immersion and reality of the RP and your character naturally illicits this response. Hence the track record she has had in like 3 rps I've seen you try and use her in. Definitely tone her down so you can avoid issues. Just my advice though.


And it's happening again. I think this is a power that relies too heavily on everyone agreeing with it to work and we've already got a rift in the OOC between the players, regardless of how you intend to play this.

But also this

Thirdly, are you honestly telling me you would find it impossible to write more convincing weaknesses than bad luck? That anything other than that is just not possible in any way, shape or form? I find that unlikely, I have no doubt you could write more interesting flaws and weaknesses, should you put your mind to it rather than saying 'no, no, can't be done, she'll just have to be god'.


I second this. I second this to an incredible degree. All of her weaknesses are so off-base they aren't weaknesses. I was being generous calling them soft weaknesses because they rely too heavily on her having a bad day. They also rely too heavily on me metagaming to keep this character in check. I'm not happy to do that. If I have to work to keep a character's power level in check, one of us is doing something wrong here. Because if I'm focusing on making sure your character doesn't literally steam roll through my plot points and devices, then I'm not able to focus on giving everyone else an enjoyable game that challenges them creatively to write and develop their characters in a manner that befits the plot.

Like I said prior, her ability is too 'Solo' focused. It works better in an environment that allows her to roam free in a writing standpoint. If you put that individual in a game full of people with characters that are just as important, it either breaks her a part or it makes everything revolve around her. And right now, I can't see a situation in which I don't have to literally drag the plot around her powers.
@Chaotic Chao

Idea: the power to get up every morning feeling refreshed and renewed no matter how many hours of sleep you got.

I'm not projecting; you're projecting

Superpower Wiki is your friend, though. Kind of. I mostly spend time on that site clicking 'Random Page' and frowning at every result it gives me.
@Chaotic Chao

I'd rather powers with the potential for something amazing, rather than powers that are right off the bat amazing. Stubborn healing factor would be the peak of those powers, enhanced regeneration would likely be the weak side of that spectrum. While it is a superhero roleplay, it's still an Academy one, too, so I'm looking for characters with powers that can improve with training and self-awareness.

But, if you're inspired by Deadpool, I can't stop ya there. That type of humor is just really, really hard to pull off without looking cheesy and trying a little too hard to make situations funny. ;P Not gonna stop you, though.

But this dog will frown at you in disappointment. :(



@Dethran

Eheh, I was already planning on bringing them in. ;D Garret will help him get in their good graces. Or he'll fail miserably and they'll both plummet into self-loathing and utter disappointment. (but what's the fun without the risk?)
@Winter Kitten For what it is worth, I have played with @Archmage MC's Light before and enjoyed it. If I may suggest: IF @Archmage MC can pull up the old threads of light so you can get a feel for how she is played.


That'd definitely assuage any doubts I have of the character's overall power. Maybe if it can be toned down to where it has more potential over initial power, I could be persuaded to allow it. Right now I'm not sure it's very cohesive with the other characters.
@Chaotic Chao

Yes sir/ma'am! ;D
Here you go, in its copy/paste glory! Probably needs retuning.



Sorry, I didn't feel I could write a sufficient reply on my phone, so this response had to wait a few hours until I got back from work. I'm home now and very able to use a keyboard.

Alright, so, as a preface: as is, I cannot accept this character.

It's less about her general ability to work cohesively with the RP at hand and more her power level. I can accept things like Telepathy and Precognition, even Clairvoyance, because those are things I can very well trust people with and know that I can work with them to make sure they get the best use out of their powers without godmodding or metagaming. This? I can't really do anything but rely on the fact that you won't abuse it. Even then, everything this character does is going to cross that line multiple times. I was iffy on the idea of accepting her when the mention of 'Deadpool like character' came into play. Works very well on its own, even lends a great comedic affect, while also leaving a heavy impact on the audience when it comes to emotional overtures. However, in a collaborative sense where I don't have direct control over the character? It just comes off as slightly too tedious and overbearing on the plot.

I don't mind the break in immersion here or the lack of realism. This is a Marvel RP. Realism doesn't mean much and often, when people try to put in rules to keep things 'realistic' it tends to hurt the RP more than aid it. So, the idea behind Toonforce, thematically, sits well with me. In a mechanical point of view, not so much. And while you have many weaknesses for her, most of her weaknesses require pre-knowledge to take advantage of. They're also too random to be considered hard weaknesses to the character. I, as a GM, would have to literally godmod in order to keep your character's power in check, while also relying on trusting you, as the player to allow that. I'm not keen on doing that. I have enough on my plate as is to have to make sure every villain in the RP and every event in the RP effects your character, as well as a multitude of other. You could say that's laziness on my part, but it's also very tedious to have to go, "Alright, so I have everything in place to make this challenging for our base characters. Now, what do I need to do to make this challenging for Light, as well?" and that's obviously giving the villains prior knowledge to take advantage of Light's weaknesses, so she can't just steam roll through everything. That's an exaggeration, but to an effect it hits pretty close, regardless.

It's going to take a lot of fine tuning to make this power anywhere near acceptable. I'm looking for potential for these characters and the only type of characters I can overlook that for are Inhumans and even then it's gotta be on par with everyone else's characters whether through lack of control or lack of general power. For Light, she's kind of already hit her ceiling and that's only addled by her own knowledge and her soft weaknesses. She really has no room to improve because her potential is boundless, but her current power level is also kind of boundless too.

If you can reduce everything and make it fit nicely while allowing your character to grow, then I'll be happy to accept. As of now, though, she's way too powerful and I won't be able to manage her without breaking my own rules, too.
@FantasyChic

Telling rude people to have a great day in a non-sarcastic tone is absolutely the best thing. Kill them with kindness.

@Dead Cruiser

I have those days way too often. Take your time, though, we aren't in a rush here!
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