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Neither would Eli. Seeing he was conceived from a rape, and then his sister, yeah. He'd probably just burst like a waterpipe and let the waterworks flow.


And then start stabbing people again.
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Thank you, Spriggs. I really appreciate that.

I mean, tentacles and stuff are all firmly in the realm of fantasy, but that isn't, and there's a very distinct difference... Damn, I feel like I've brought down the mood of the thread considerably. Sorry, everyone.
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And then start stabbing people again.


Nah, he learned his lesson. He wouldn't stab anyone, save for Kishin. He's a good little boy. Considering his dad killed his mother, sister, and nearly killed him. And, also, that Eli killed his father by stabbing him about twenty times.

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Damn, I feel like I've brought down the mood of the thread considerably. Sorry, everyone.


It's totally fine, Impy~! ^^
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Imperfectionist said
Thank you, Spriggs. I really appreciate that.I mean, tentacles and stuff are all firmly in the realm of fantasy, but that isn't, and there's a very distinct difference... Damn, I feel like I've brought down the mood of the thread considerably. Sorry, everyone.


nah, its cool. Everybody Loves Raymond..... just not sprigs :P
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Everybody Loves Raymond..... just not sprigs :P


Raymond's a pretty cool cat.
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I was thinking about having it be a piece of his soul, maybe half, making him unable to use his soul wavelength much in autonomous combat, but while keeping all of his limbs. If not, then he can lose his arm.


No, it must specifically be a body part. Also, weapons can't use their soul wavelength in combat.

So, his arm is favored? Alright.
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Who is this Raymond you speak of. I wish to meet him, he sounds like a cool guy.
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Still nothing about my Witch.

And screw you Un, actually nevermind, too late anyways.
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No, it must specifically be a body part. Also, weapons can't use their soul wavelength in combat.So, his arm is favored? Alright.


Autonomous weapons can. Justin Law and Giriko did, a lot, in the canon series.
Yeah, his arm is a good, reasonable sacrifice.

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Who is this Raymond you speak of. I wish to meet him, he sounds like a cool guy.


He's a cool cat. Not a cool guy, a cool cat.
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Autonomous weapons can. Justin Law and Giriko did, a lot, in the canon series.
Yeah, his arm is a good, reasonable sacrifice.


Those guys were also Death Scythes, however. Once you reach that point, things are a little different.
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Justin law is a death scythe, and I don't know who the other one is.
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Justin law is a death scythe, and I don't know who the other one is.


Giriko? He's the Demon Chainsaw, autonomous, loyal to Arachne... Ringing any bells?

EDIT: Also, Jivusa, a sword is a very easily wieldable Weapon, and there's nothing stopping him from gaining a Meister... Justin Law, on the other hand, is a Guillotine (which only someone like Shinigami could wield) and Giriko's chainsaw form is so huge he had to build himself a 20 foot tall golem to act as a Meister, and even then it wasn't particularly effective. He was always more dangerous on his own, because of his chain.
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Those guys were also Death Scythes, however. Once you reach that point, things are a little different.


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Justin law is a death scythe, and I don't know who the other one is.


Giriko wasn't a Death Scythe. He was, though, a fairly strong Autonomous Weapon.
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Giriko wasn't a Death Scythe. He was, though, a fairly strong Autonomous Weapon.


Was that ever confirmed or denied? Maybe it's just my headcanon, considering he'd been around for 800 years by the time of the series, and Arachne is no friend to witches...
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I don't know that he specifically used his wavelength, though. It could be that he's just so strong, it looks like he is when he uses his weapon form. But he isn't using his wavelength offensively.
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Giriko wasn't totally autonomous. He could form his chains by himself, but to use his soul wavelength he needed his gollem, which contained part of Arachnae's soul.
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Giriko wasn't totally autonomous. He could form his chains by himself, but to use his would wavelength he needed his gollem, which contained part of Arachnae's soul.


But, as I said, he was always more dangerous (it seemed) when he was being autonomous.

Also, has anyone else wondered how Justin Law fought before he became a Death Scythe? It would have been pretty difficult...

EDIT: He generated his chain without giving up any body parts... Ergo, Death Scythe, or something similar.
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Giriko wasn't totally autonomous. He could form his chains by himself, but to use his soul wavelength he needed his gollem, which contained part of Arachnae's soul.


Okay, well, maybe not Giriko. But Justin Law did. Law Abiding Silver Gun.
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Okay, well, maybe not Giriko. But Justin Law did. Law Abiding Silver Gun.


And, voila, the original argument comes back. Justin's a Death Scythe.

EDIT: By the way, why not make Eli something outrageous, like a Guillotine, if you want him to be autonomous? He doesn't seem to have any reason to NOT have a Meister...
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And, voila, the original argument comes back. Justin's a Death Scythe.


I wasn't referring to that. I was just saying that Autonomous Weapons do, in fact, use their soul wavelength in combat.

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By the way, why not make Eli something outrageous, like a Guillotine, if you want him to be autonomous? He doesn't seem to have any reason to NOT have a Meister...


Because he's somewhat of a prisoner. Not much, but somewhat. Either not allowed to have a Meister, no one want to even be his Meister, or he prefers to not have one because it reminds him of the incident with his family. Maybe just the last two.
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