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Just noticed Vilage posted.

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Victory, I have posted. Posting again is an altogether different matter. I can't believe I already have 5 other storylines in mind. T_T
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Welcome back to PoW.

Now I suppose I should work on a post. Wonder if I can get beat the ten or more page posts I've been writing for a Fallout RP in casual... Then again I'm in a pinch to do as much as possible there in as few posts as possible so Evan doesn't filler post too much.

You also messed up the video at the end. You need the last part of the URL. As an example:
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If you take the: HhYsoUSkahg

And add the tags you'll get:

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Always the video.
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Or, if you're into fun videos:



I do this for fun.
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o dat video.
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Something just dawned upon me: with the timeline divergence, were women enfranchised in the UK and USA, and thereafter throughout the western world, was there are any feminist movement in the 60s, a queer movement akin to the one which followed Stonewall; for that matter, were the Jim Crow laws ever repealed, or is Segregation still very much alive? In the same vein, is antisemitism still as prevalent as in the late XIXth century, with pogroms in Eastern Europe and jewish quotas in the Ivy league?
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I would think given there being a lack of holocaust effecting the Jews all at once anti-semitism on a larger scale wouldn't end up being as vilified as it is now when the world cracked up Auschwitz and showed just what hate could do. And at the same time it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of movement between nations so even if there was a larger second generation women's rights movement it couldn't have gone far. But I'm willing to bet that feminism is sort of at a point between First Gen/Suffragette Movement and Second Generation, hippy-born women empowerment.

And with the lack of a Second World War which would have been the inspiration - in some parts - for such a movement never being fought and more and more women taking men's jobs it could have lagged behind if such a catalyst was needed. And even during the Great War there wasn't a big workplace shift in the US because they never took part in the first place. Can't speak for the other nations, but that's as much as I know.
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So Europe is still more or less a crapsack world for Jews, with the US not that far behind.
European women would certainly have played a major role in the war effort, especially with the war itself having lasted so much longer. We could expect feminism to be much stronger in the old continent than in the new, unless the times of unrest would have caused a return to more conservative values.

Do you think anything analogous to the Civil Rights movement or Stonewall could have occurred? I have serious doubts, especially concerning the latter. That and 2nd and 3rd wave feminism are fights of the postmodern world, which is certainly not a stage PoW has reached yet. The only aspect in which PoW might be better than our reality, is religious extremism, which hasn't yet picked off.

I just remembered most of what we call human rights don't have much legal or even conceptual existence here. The distant Hague conventions of 1899 and 1907 are not so present in the minds.



All this is rather problematic though, as Persia has already enacted what now seem ultraprogressive laws, like sanctions against sexual assault, financial independence for women, the depenalization of homosexuality, a minimum wage, and so on. If the debate doesn't exist yet, I could hardly conjure the solutions out of thin air.
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On one hand...

Though I can't remember if I ever defined "Crimes against man-kind" so I imagine such things will end up stalling the court, forcing them to seek definition before moving on to trial. But can't have it all be perfect off the bat, not when they haven't been forced to hear it.
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The Civil Rights movement has been mentioned, though i'm not sure where it stands after we toyed with the canon. In the original sporum RP, Florida underwent a rather quick civil rights movement that started to make progress, but wehr mentioned that many blamed the bloated malaria outbreak on the blacks. Tempest and I also talked about this, but he focused a lot of a civil rights movement for Mexicans. I don't really remember the details we worked out.

As for the Jews, I believe Hugs was trying to tackle it at one point but was uncomfortable with the subject. As for feminism, I'm assuming that second-wave just hasn't happened yet. At the same time, several of us have alluded to a slightly more liberal approach to the subject. We see women in government. In my case, its an unrealistic oversight caused by me treating this all as some sort of writing practice. Aaron and Googer have also mentioned quite a few women in important positions. In Aaron's case that would be expected considering that China is communist. In Googer's case... maybe it suggests there is some sort of quasi-feminism in Spain? That's where you would expect the western feminism analogue to start, anyway.
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@Aaron: I totally missed the treaty establishing the Third International. May cases be brought before the IPC by individuals, or groups of individuals, in something akin to a class action, as is possible before the European Court of Human Rights, in the case of the state itself violating their rights?
It could be interesting for the IPC to actually be opened to states not members of the International, so as to provide a formal institution for international conflict resolution.

@Vilage: Is the USSA storyline still canon? If it is, we could expect the socialist president to have at least begun addressing the problem of segregation.
Antisemitism would realistically be a major issue in post-czarist Russia, the social turmoil leading to massacres and fearmongering.
As pertains to Spain, it could be possible the increased and prolonged involvement of women in warring Europe in fact accelerated the liberation of women. History could really have gone either way. In any case, it would seem feminism is firmly implanted in Persia, which could be passed off as a consequence of the socialist party's strength and the Shah's modernism. As radical Islam is a much less potent force, the opposition to feminine emancipation would be notably weaker, though far from weak.

I recall some posts concerning the Jewish question in Palestine. What ever happened there?
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Cantankerous_Arthropod said
@Aaron: I totally missed the treaty establishing the Third International. May cases be brought before the IPC by individuals, or groups of individuals, in something akin to a class action, as is possible before the European Court of Human Rights, in the case of the state itself violating their rights?
It could be interesting for the IPC to actually be opened to states not members of the International, so as to provide a formal institution for international conflict resolution.


Chapter 4. Article 16
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So, individuals may only be represented by organizations, is that correct?
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Probably. This is a international organization, I doubt they'd want to take on a marriage dispute or mugging charge.
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Of course, I was thinking more of human rights violations.
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The former Sultan Suleiman.

I'll add the saed Sultan to the rotator tomorrow, and begin work on a post.
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