Pepperm1nts said
With the bridges down, it's possible the NCR decides to call it off for a while. You don't to have them commit more forces. Things have not gone to plan for either side. Both the Yakima Republic and NCR are in need of reconsideration and a change of plans. Hathaway fucked the Yakima Republic over as much as he did the NCR when he took down the bridges. I'm looking forward to see how that bit of treachery is handled. Though I am worried I'll end up regretting it ;P

Hahaha, this is true. I'm considering all options, but just because the YR is in a dicey situation, doesn't mean I'll go easy on it. I'll reread everything tomorrow, take notes and then formulate the situation in what I perceive to be a credible and rationale manner.

Thanks for keeping this thing together guys, I know the guild's erratic behaviour hasn't been helpful.

General information coming once the main faction is okayed. He shouldn't be as much of an issue as this could be.

Army Name: Yakima Army Aeronautical Corps

Army Banner: WIP

Army Specialisations:[/b*] Aircraft and technology recovery.

[b]Army Origins: The YAAC was formed recently after strategic planners determined the necessity of establishing an air presence to gain a crucial advantage in combat. Recounting newly-rediscovered air actions in old-world American conflicts, it was decided that air superiority was a game-changer in strategic policy. With other nations too uninterested in powered flight, this was an avenue that could establish Yakima's competitiveness even over powerhouses like the NCR. Funds were earmarked and the YAAC was established experimentally under the command of newly-minted Air Marshal William S. Rogers under the conditions that it would need to "prove itself to attain permanency in the military." While often ridiculed as expensive, useless, and a drain of personnel and resources, Rogers was able to recruit volunteers to fit his 450-man allotment and begin conducting research into recovering prewar airframes. As of the current situation, the YAAC functions as a ground unit as able company deploys on the ground as an attachment to larger, more established Army units while baker company tends to the home base at Yakima Airfield.

Army Racial Composition: Human only with limited robotic assets (support functions like security patrols; unable to fit inside aircraft): Super mutants are too large to fly in aircraft and there is medical concern about ghouls being torn apart by high-G maneuvers in recovered airframes.

Order of Battle:

Each Section contains roughly fifty people, making a standard company around 200 men.

- Headquarters Company (Independent, roughly the size of a section and not a company-sized force)
-- HQ/1 Administrative Section (mostly officers, clerks, aides, and staff members that make the organization run)
- ABLE Company
-- A/1 Recovery Section
--- First technology recovery team, lightly armed compared to security detail but staffed with professionals trained to locate and retrieve prewar flight technology (mostly former prospectors.)
-- A/2 Security Section
--- Dedicated deployed security team for recovery experts, capable of filling heavier requirements that the recovery teams lack themselves.
-- A/3 Recovery Section
--- Second technology recovery team.
-- A/4 Security Section
--- Dedicated security team for headquarters, trained to patrol and secure the headquarters from sabotage, infiltration, and attacks.
- BAKER Company
-- B/1 Research Section
--- Responsible for analyzing and reverse-engineering artifacts brought back by the recovery teams.
-- B/2 Engineering Section
--- Responsible for repairing and drafting plans for aircraft and their components.
-- B/3 Logistics Section
--- Combat-trained team that maintains logistical equipment to transport personnel and supplies where they need to be.
-- B/4 Engineering Section
--- Responsible for maintenance and expansion of the headquarters base, as well as the analysis of captured airfields and infrastructure.

Headquarters Name: Yakima Airfield, Yakima

Headquarters Description: Located near the capital city, Yakima Airfield is largely out of the frontlines and secure enough for the YAAC's research operations. It is defended by 4/D Section and local Yakima military QRF units in the event of emergency, and in the process of being fortified. It is an old commercial metropolitan airport and is thus undergoing renovations: many personnel live in tents instead of barracks until such time as they can be constructed. It is mostly intact, barring time's damage, as it suffered no nuclear damage from the Great War. Yakima Airfield is spacious enough and equipped with most facilities (ATC, hangars, terminals, warehouses, etc.) to support future air operations. It provides a stable basing point for YAAC deployable groups like able company.

TheEvanCat said
General information coming once the main faction is okayed. He shouldn't be as much of an issue as this could be. Yakima Army Aeronautical Corps WIP The YAAC was formed recently after strategic planners determined the necessity of establishing an air presence to gain a crucial advantage in combat. Recounting newly-rediscovered air actions in old-world American conflicts, it was decided that air superiority was a game-changer in strategic policy. With other nations too uninterested in powered flight, this was an avenue that could establish Yakima's competitiveness even over powerhouses like the NCR. Funds were earmarked and the YAAC was established experimentally under the command of newly-minted Air Marshal William S. Rogers under the conditions that it would need to "prove itself to attain permanency in the military." While often ridiculed as expensive, useless, and a drain of personnel and resources, Rogers was able to recruit volunteers to fit his 450-man allotment and begin conducting research into recovering prewar airframes. As of the current situation, the YAAC functions as a ground unit as able company deploys on the ground as an attachment to larger, more established Army units while baker company tends to the home base at Yakima Airfield. Human only with limited robotic assets (support functions like security patrols; unable to fit inside aircraft): Super mutants are too large to fly in aircraft and there is medical concern about ghouls being torn apart by high-G maneuvers in recovered airframes.Each Section contains roughly fifty people, making a standard company around 200 men.- Headquarters Company (Independent, roughly the size of a section and not a company-sized force)-- HQ/1 Administrative Section (mostly officers, clerks, aides, and staff members that make the organization run)- ABLE Company-- A/1 Recovery Section--- First technology recovery team, lightly armed compared to security detail but staffed with professionals trained to locate and retrieve prewar flight technology (mostly former prospectors.)-- A/2 Security Section--- Dedicated deployed security team for recovery experts, capable of filling heavier requirements that the recovery teams lack themselves.-- A/3 Recovery Section--- Second technology recovery team.-- A/4 Security Section--- Dedicated security team for headquarters, trained to patrol and secure the headquarters from sabotage, infiltration, and attacks.- BAKER Company-- B/1 Research Section--- Responsible for analyzing and reverse-engineering artifacts brought back by the recovery teams.-- B/2 Engineering Section--- Responsible for repairing and drafting plans for aircraft and their components.-- B/3 Logistics Section--- Combat-trained team that maintains logistical equipment to transport personnel and supplies where they need to be.-- B/4 Engineering Section--- Responsible for maintenance and expansion of the headquarters base, as well as the analysis of captured airfields and infrastructure. Yakima Airfield, Yakima Located near the capital city, Yakima Airfield is largely out of the frontlines and secure enough for the YAAC's research operations. It is defended by 4/D Section and local Yakima military QRF units in the event of emergency, and in the process of being fortified. It is an old commercial metropolitan airport and is thus undergoing renovations: many personnel live in tents instead of barracks until such time as they can be constructed. It is mostly intact, barring time's damage, as it suffered no nuclear damage from the Great War. Yakima Airfield is spacious enough and equipped with most facilities (ATC, hangars, terminals, warehouses, etc.) to support future air operations. It provides a stable basing point for YAAC deployable groups like able company.

You need to put the number of people in each of the teams.

LordZell said
You need to put the number of people in each of the teams.

I state it in the header.

You know, for something set more-or-less inside an Indian Reservation where there'd be people related to the native Klickitat or Yakaman population I almost expected there to at least be more stereotypical native-american names for some of these units, just translated over into English.

Like, less "Black Death" and more something whimsically 'natural' and Native American like "Death Claw With Swinging Fists" or "Slinking Shrew Over Rotten Log".

Not all of the units are natives, but I agree the native ones should have been closer to their roots.

Pepperm1nts said
Not all of the units are natives, but I agree the native ones should have been closer to their roots.

Names like Death Claw Swinging With Clenched Fist are much more interesting than the middle of the road 2edgy4me "Black Death". But you may have to look into local naming patterns to get it better.

Sort of the same vein as the Manchurian "Tiger Spirit" battalion.

Dinh AaronMk said
You know, for something set more-or-less inside an Indian Reservation where there'd be people related to the native Klickitat or Yakaman population I almost expected there to at least be more stereotypical native-american names for some of these units, just translated over into English.Like, less "Black Death" and more something whimsically 'natural' and Native American like "Death Claw With Swinging Fists" or "Slinking Shrew Over Rotten Log".

Wikipedia tells me that today's Yakima County is 5% Native.

It still wouldn't have hurt to have had some groups related to the natives. Maybe not natives themselves, but groups that adopted a lot of native culture. In Fallout: New Vegas, Zion park is full of tribes that are very similar to old native tribes. And Fallout has always had a big emphasis on tribes. Not necessarily native tribes, but groups of survivors that have, over the years, reverted to a very tribal way of life. Yakima being in an Indian reservation would make the likelihood of that even greater, yet no one jumped on the chance.

Unfortunately, the nuclear bombs of the Great War, and the consequential fall out, to excuse the pun, decimated the original inhabitants of the area. That's not to say that the Yakima Nation is non-existent, but rather, that the area is is dominated by a multitude of peoples and races originating from other areas of the United States. The Yakima Republic's name is based entirely on the Old World county in which it is situated, as opposed to the Native American peoples that once dwelt there. We have super mutants, ghouls, robots and humans all living under the Republic's umbrella of racial diversity and special interest.

The whole appeal of the Republic, to the various peoples that form it, is that it accepts everyone so long as they can contribute to it, and die for it when the time calls for such actions. Such an appeal brings groups from far and wide. Imagine a land where you and your fellows could go and live, with relative security, so long as you paid your dues and accepted the established political system! It's a better alternative to the dubious NCR policies.

If needs be, I can create the Republic's history so that you can all have a better understanding of how a collection of raider gangs, traders, tribals and vault dwellers formed a mutual security pact called the Yakima Grand Alliance, which then evolved into the Yakima Republic some decades later and sparked a civil war with elements of the Alliance not willing to lose their independence.

It sounds better than some Native Americans somehow surviving two centuries of nuclear fallout, if you ask me.

But hey, don't let me tell you guys how it is. I just made the RP, what do I know? Excuse me whilst I go and invade someone else's' RP, and make an arse of myself for ... whatever reason I need to propel my inept soci... no, I'm sorry, I'm getting angry over nothing. Please, go ahead and stir the debate. I can take the Republic in a more Native American direction if you want, though I feel it's a bit late in the day for any major changes.

And Fallout like to dive for the most exaggerated. So if there's a chance something could have gone super-Native American it would have. Either as a joke or a possibility.

After all, Native Americans in general are pretty far and thin these days but you get a lot of emulation of the Native American image. This may be a predominately South-West thing, but Caesar's Legion is composed of hundreds of forcefully annexed tribes that had Amerindian motifs: Blackfoot, Painted Rocks, Twisted Hairs, Twin Mothers, etc. And you'll get similar sprinkled throughout.

Unless they were scouting Seattle for a game setting then they may have gone back to the contemporary military set-up or urban gangs for names. But something like Yakama County with its name, history and rural set up it's a pretty fresh and tempting move to stray from organized urban branding (Tunnel Snakes, xxth [whatever] battalion) to something as unfamiliar but near as adapting native american branding. It's less demographics and more how the Fallout brand works.

Aaron likes to argue, none of it is meant to offend. Chill out and just talk, dawgs.

Pepperm1nts said
Aaron likes to argue, none of it is meant to offend. Chill out and just talk, dawgs.

It's more about how unnecessary and rude the whole exercise was.

But I'll leave it there.

LancerDancer said
It's more about how unnecessary and rude the whole exercise was. But I'll leave it there.

I think you're a little over the line, too, for your "inept social skills" or whatever comment.

Aaron likes to rustle jimmies. It's what he does. Doesn't mean anything.

TheEvanCat said
I think you're a little over the line, too, for your "inept social skills" or whatever comment.Aaron likes to rustle jimmies. It's what he does. Doesn't mean anything.

I could also go more for the jugular and question why a county with only a couple ten-thousand individuals (PRE NUKES) can hope to achieve the strength to create an institution like a Republican government and manage to defend itself from more predatory foes from within and without. Especially at the start where theoretically the "Republic of Yakama" could be much smaller than it is now, even if it was running on Viccy 2 rules where a democratic government attracts far more immigrants than not. But then not only am I challenging the image of the RP but the deeper lore and the map and the mechanics and all of that which would demand a much larger redrafting than saying, "You know, maybe I could adopt a different name for a unit".

Eh, to be fair, the Republic was made up of people from all over the place. There are natives from the area, Enclave remnants from the west, Brotherhood of Steel trying to seek refuge from persecution, NCR defectors, ect. The county may have not had a lot of people to start, but people found their way there from elsewhere and set up a republic.

Pepperm1nts said
Eh, to be fair, the Republic was made up of people from all over the place. There are natives from the area, Enclave remnants from the west, Brotherhood of Steel trying to seek refuge from persecution, NCR defectors, ect. The county may have not had a lot of people to start, but people found their way there from elsewhere and set up a republic.

The immigration issue is much the issue but more how it could have kept up with local competition before. Or how neighbors would perceive its rapidly growing power through immigration, as well as the fledgling Republic being able to feed all these bodies. The Wasteland isn't that friendly to agricultural pursuits, and you could argue the Pacific north-west being as rainy as it is that a lot of top soil got washed away when the trees were turned to carbon and nothing grew to hold anything together, making their situation even more dire.

But then again, the NCR managed to somehow grow crops in the desert outside of New Vegas. But they're the NCR and have a pretty well funded OSI.

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Easy, then. The early republic used a GECK like Shady Sands did. It's not what's written down as of now, but if it becomes that much of a problem, that would be an easy fix. But in all honesty, this is some pretty trivial shit. It doesn't really matter much.

Native culture is dead in the modern day. Nuclear apocalypse, with its horrific environmental devastation, makes it less likely to be revived, not more. The tribes of the Zion bared a resemblance to Native cultures because the area they inhabited was an oddity, in that it did not experience significant damage as a result of the Great War. The LEAST likely result of the Great War is for a society dependent on the environment it eradicated to spring up.

Landlocked countries with no lakes or rivers don't attract sailors and fishermen. Flat plains don't attract mountain climbers. Nuclear wastelands devoid of most of their original plant and animal life don't encourage the formation of societies dependent on plants and animals.