The argument about Native presence could really go either way, but I think there's something we can all agree on: modern day Fallout, and Fallout related fiction are currently suffering from a desperate need.

Of course, you already know the need I'm referring to-- It's Slags.

Fallout needs more Slags-- everyone needs more Slags.

The Nexerus said
Nuclear wastelands devoid of most of their original plant and animal life don't encourage the formation of societies dependent on plants and animals.

Then society as it is in Fallout shouldn't exist as well since our survival is just as well dependent on the relations we have to plants and animals as Native American - and any tribal culture for that matter - is dependent on it. We may not be running out with a wolf pelt thrown over our backs to hunt bison with a flint knife clutched between our teeth like pre-colombian American societies, but we sure as hell need them. What's important isn't the core factor between what makes a "tribal" society or a "complex" western society, that's an entire inter-working network of environmental factors that ultimately shape our society.

We sure as hell don't worship maze or wheat anymore, but it doesn't make it any less important to anyone as a people. A society modeling themselves on north-western Indian tribes would have food as important a thing as anyone else.

And there's also forgotten the emulation aspect. Romans don't exist any more. But that didn't stop Caesar from fashioning himself as a Roman Emperor. All it would take are groups finding the remains of pre-war buildings, books, or whatever paying homage (whether in a stripped-down commercial respect or by finding books) and building themselves on it. A society of Cigar Store Indian if you will.

If there is a stereotypically Indian faction in Fallout 4, there will be lawsuits.

Well, the dust has settled for seven hours, and so now I think is an appropriate time to bring this very valued, constructive and indeed essential discussion to its conclusion.

I would like to thank Dinh AaronMk for taking the time out of his day to express his own ideas of how this RP should be going, and why it should be so. I always appreciate discussion that ultimately affects an existing system. In fact, as Dinh seems quite interested in this whole set up we have, I'd like to give him my full permission (no strings, no sarcasm or nastiness) to take everything we have here, and start his own RP so that he can shape it in a way he feels is more correct.

Furthermore, I apologise for my initial reaction. It was unfair of me, and I am sorry for throwing my rattle out of the pram.

Sadly, this RP has already started. No matter how logical, or illogical as the case may be, the arguments are for the Yakima Republic to be refocused on the ancestral peoples after which the county of Yakima is named, it would be impractical for things to change so drastically now. So unfortunately, I'm going to have to say that we're keeping the idea of multiple cultures living under the same flag, as opposed to a Native American-style state. I will not defend the idea we're sticking with, but I will say that at the time of me creating this RP, and after the research I put into the geography of Washington State, Yakima County seemed like a rational area to place a population. Perhaps I was wrong.

If this has suddenly become a deal breaker for anyone, then I apologise for any inconvenience, and they have my full blessing should they wish to leave the RP.

---

Now that's out of the way, is everyone (who is still with me) ready for things to progress? I'm not going to waste my time on something that has possibly died over night, so I'll need some "Hell yes'es!" if I can :)

I doubt any of this will cause anyone to leave. If they leave it's because they were going to anyway.

I'm still in.

The Nexerus said
If there is a stereotypically Indian faction in Fallout 4, there will be lawsuits.

Fuckin' lawyers, taking away mah racist stereotypes.

Urgh. Bloody thing.

Sorry guys/gals, this is the first time I was able to get online since earlier. Unfortunately, there's not enough time left in my day to move things forwards, so it'll need to wait until tomorrow.

Provided that the Guild doesn't keep jipping me over tomorrow evening (GMT 0 17:00 onwards), we'll have this ball rolling again.

Thanks for your patience :)

I will be on board once the ship sets sail again.

Well..

Rad

Hey, I was wondering if you were accepting any new players, I've got my general and army sheets written up.

[/hider]

So Air Corps are alright?

It seems as though this is done. Unless someone wants to start another?

Lancer said he was waiting until the forum problems got better.

I have been physically incapable of posting for several days.