lol, everyone forgets Light was there xD. Guess being a toon makes her Solid Snake levels of stealthy. Now she just needs a cardboard box...

Adam just responded to Light

I will post something then.

Edited my post a bit to add a little more insult to Adam's reply to Cedric

"I know about you Cedric, you were chosen by federal agents to become a hero working in Los Angeles, but you ran away and got caught. They say you have no discipline and act like a child. I will be your superior not just by age but also by training and loyalty and bravery. I have been training with the government since I was a little boy and when you were still watching Barney." he said to Cedric with contempt.

Cedric was being forcibly seized, drafted and coerced as a kid; of course he would run away. When he 'got caught', he was beaten up and tasered repeatedly. Both of that was multiple levels of wrong. Adam is proud of being put through actual military training as a kid. That is also multiple levels of wrong. Patriarch, I hate to say this, but Adam is fucking screwed up. He's basically contemptuous of people who just want to avoid becoming child soldiers/is proud of being put through military training as a kid. And, before you ask, yes, I remember you saying that no, Adam wasn't a child soldier, he was someone who got put through a tougher version of military school by the Government. That...that's not how things go IRL. Military School is not the same as being trained to kill people in the future, so what Adam went through was not military school.

"I know about you Cedric, you were chosen by federal agents to become a hero working in Los Angeles, but you ran away and got caught. They say you have no discipline and act like a child. I will be your superior not just by age but also by training and loyalty and bravery. I have been training with the government since I was a little boy and when you were still watching Barney." he said to Cedric with contempt.

Cedric was being forcibly seized, drafted and coerced as a kid; of course he would run away. When he 'got caught', he was beaten up and tasered repeatedly. Both of that was multiple levels of wrong. Adam is proud of being put through actual military training as a kid. That is also multiple levels of wrong. Patriarch, I hate to say this, but Adam is fucking screwed up. He's basically contemptuous of people who just want to avoid becoming child soldiers/is proud of being put through military training as a kid. And, before you ask, yes, I remember you saying that no, Adam wasn't a child soldier, he was someone who got put through a tougher version of military school by the Government. That...that's not how things go IRL. Military School is not the same as being trained to kill people in the future, so what Adam went through was not military school.

He still never killed anyone until he was an adult, and does it really matter since most of the heroes in this rp seem to have killed at one point or another

He still never killed anyone until he was an adult, and does it really matter since most of the heroes in this rp seem to have killed at one point or another

Yes, it matters; most of the heroes did kill people, but it was entirely their own choice - they weren't indoctrinated to believe they wanted to kill, they weren't influenced while young to believe that they are a living weapon/killing machine, they had powers, they chose to use it as adults, and chose to kill without childhood brainwashing to convince them that it was a good idea. And, again, Adam is insulting Cedric for refusing to be coerced and brainwashed, and, again, is proud of being a living weapon without a normal childhood. That is not a good thing.

He still never killed anyone until he was an adult, and does it really matter since most of the heroes in this rp seem to have killed at one point or another

Yes, it matters; most of the heroes did kill people, but it was entirely their own choice - they weren't indoctrinated to believe they wanted to kill, they weren't influenced while young to believe that they are a living weapon/killing machine, they had powers, they chose to use it as adults, and chose to kill without childhood brainwashing to convince them that it was a good idea. And, again, Adam is insulting Cedric for refusing to be coerced and brainwashed, and, again, is proud of being a living weapon without a normal childhood. That is not a good thing.

If you're trying to tell me that I'm messing up the rp then please tell me, because how I'm reading this is that you seem annoyed with my character. I'm playing a gray character and trying to not make him generic.

You're not messing up in any major or big way, it's just that your character either isn't psychologically accurate, or is psychologically accurate, but in a way that's creepy. As for playing a grey character, that's all right, it's just that Adam's 'greyness' is expressed through, well, how do I put it? A blind faith in his father and the US Gov't, and a refusal to acknowledge that there are flaws in need of fixing, or, alternatively, that he can fix them all by himself. As for not being generic, that's to be praised. Look, the problem is that Adam is a person who, although he's grey himself, doesn't see shades of grey. He also isn't conscious about the implications of how he's been treated, even though he's supposed to be a genius. As mentioned, he thinks that being brainwashed into a killing machine is an ideal state, and, well, if you want him to not be generic, have him realize that it's not, it's unethical and he's been broken and reshaped into being a pawn. He doesn't have to see it right away, just gradually.

You're not messing up in any major or big way, it's just that your character either isn't psychologically accurate, or is psychologically accurate, but in a way that's creepy. As for playing a grey character, that's all right, it's just that Adam's 'greyness' is expressed through, well, how do I put it? A blind faith in his father and the US Gov't, and a refusal to acknowledge that there are flaws in need of fixing, or, alternatively, that he can fix them all by himself. As for not being generic, that's to be praised. Look, the problem is that Adam is a person who, although he's grey himself, doesn't see shades of grey. He also isn't conscious about the implications of how he's been treated, even though he's supposed to be a genius. As mentioned, he thinks that being brainwashed into a killing machine is an ideal state, and, well, if you want him to not be generic, have him realize that it's not, it's unethical and he's been broken and reshaped into being a pawn. He doesn't have to see it right away, just gradually.

Nowhere in his bio is it mentioned that he was made into a killing machine, his training is much less harsh than what a Spartan has go through. Seriously his government training is like a less harsh form of the Spartan training. Also by trying to kill Ruby he just pissed off project genesis so he isn't merely a pawn. Adam is a soldier who has had way longer training to be more effective in combat, he's not brainwashed, he's just really loyal.

Point taken on not being a pawn. Also, I'd argue with you that even a less harsh version of the Spartan training is immoral, but I'm tired. Adam is okay as he is right now; I'd like him to develop more as a character in the future, but right now, he's not that bad as long as he doesn't stay the way he is.

I'm just going to get a bit of a vote here. Do you guys either want to continue on to the climactic battle or would you prefer to just move onto the new Arc?

I don't care tbh. Apparently Light is going to be the face of heroic metas or something, so a time skip will be weird for her. lol.

Idk im good for someone reacting to what Dean is doing then i guess we can Timeskip...I have something planned for Dean.

Personally, I really like having closure so in all honesty I'd prefer we finish the battle I suppose.

I can post something to finish this if you want?

I would like to finish up the rp

I meant the battle eh i'll just wait a little then.

I'll hopefully have a post up later which should point you all towards finishing this Arc up!

Sorry for the delay. Will post later.

I made a list of all of the active characters I was sort of sure about. I put them down in the order I found them, tell me if I missed anyone